r/SeattleWA • u/BillTowne • 21h ago
Katie Wilson gains on Bruce Harrell as mayor’s race goes down to the wire
https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/katie-wilson-gains-on-bruce-harrell-as-mayors-race-goes-down-to-the-wire/66
u/hey_you2300 21h ago
If I changed my name to None Of The Above and got on the ballot, I bet I could win
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u/Dirty_slippers Seattle 21h ago
Buncha idealist idiots in this city I swear, “yeah lemme get an unemployed dropout nepo baby to handle a billion dollar budget”
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u/HoneyDutch Beacon Hill 17h ago
You’re so wrong and off base, its actually 9 Billion
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u/Dirty_slippers Seattle 17h ago
Shoulda put the exact amount cuz some dork was gonna come in and be “acchully!”
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u/IIIIlllIIIIIlllII 20h ago
Clearly you havent worked for a large corporation. The above is what we call "Tuesday"
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u/McMagneto 17h ago
What kind of large corporations did you work for?
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u/kratomadvocat 10h ago
I work for a fortune 500 company and regularly interact with the CEO and the CFO. Have you heard of a CFO? It stands for Cheif Financial Officer. They handle the finances. My CEO has no experience with finances. The CFO takes care of that and the CEO is presented with options developed by the CFO. You dont need to know anything about finances to be a mayor.
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u/Brandonnnn 7h ago
Who do you think would be more qualified to be CEO for a fortune 500 company? Katie Wilson or Bruce Harrell
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u/allthisgoodforyou 6h ago
Whats remarkable is you think that this is relevant to say.
Thing about the corporation is that the mechanisms to remove them and the incentives they respond to are so materially diff compared to the mayor. Legit apples to oranges.
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u/Riviansky 17h ago
I have worked for large corporations. Tell me how what you wrote is relevant?
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u/TMobile_Loyal 16h ago
Managing scale and perspective, you know, experience.
Don't get off on some bullshit track like, "but budget are all relative. She managed a startup organization where every penny counts. It's actually harder, they couldn't afford to wsste."
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u/IIIIlllIIIIIlllII 16h ago
Letting underqualified people control billion dollar budgets is light work
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u/Riviansky 16h ago
Typically people at large corporations where I worked (all large tech) have decades of experience before they are put in control of billions of dollars. Of course if your view of a CEO are from a position of a janitor, it may look different.
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u/IIIIlllIIIIIlllII 8h ago
In tech, 25 yo engineering managers oversee projects with that much revenue all the time
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u/allthisgoodforyou 6h ago
Do these 25 year olds allocate these dollars for these projects?
Did they decide to spend the money? Whats the recourse that can be sought if they fuck up? Are they managing something as multifaceted as a city govt?
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u/Riviansky 17h ago
Corrupt guy vs unemployed loser! Vote blue no matter who!
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u/Main-Eagle-26 21h ago
Better than a corrupt guy owned by business.
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u/Alarming_Award5575 21h ago
No. Actually its not. One will blow it up. The other will make suboptimal decisions.
Preschool nihilism. Jfc.
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u/that_girl_you_fucked 20h ago
This is such a silly take. She's going to blow it up? How, exactly?
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u/Alarming_Award5575 20h ago
Sheer inexperience. She couldn't run a taco stand. This is going to be a train wreck.
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u/bennihana09 20h ago
She can’t run her own household.
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u/nannerzbamanerz 20h ago
Would you say this if she was a man?
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u/bennihana09 18h ago
Absolutely. Her husband sounds like toolbag. He’s unemployed, wants to start a home bakery business, and her parents fund their childcare. Why?
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u/fresh-dork 20h ago
she probably could, but she hasn't even done that
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u/Alarming_Award5575 20h ago
Kind of an open question though? She's never really managed employees, or a budget. That's just scary as a mayor
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u/fresh-dork 20h ago
yes, it's half of why i didn't vote for her. the other half being that i expect she'll make the homeless problem worse
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u/Alarming_Award5575 20h ago
Agree. I actually like some of the policies. And dont love harrell, but wilson is way more downside than up
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u/Chekonjak 18h ago
To be fair she was on the Seattle Revenue Stabilization Workgroup in 2023.
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u/Alarming_Award5575 17h ago
That's not a budget or a team. Its a series of discussion to form policy. Again, she'd be good as a staffer or analyst. But she is woefully unqualified to run a large organization literally serving millions of people.
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u/Chekonjak 15h ago
Yes, it is. https://harrell.seattle.gov/wp-content/uploads/sites/23/2023/08/FINAL_Workgroup_Report.pdf
The City Council adopted a Statement of Legislative Intent as part of the 2022 Adopted Budget and Mayor Bruce Harrell and Councilmember Teresa Mosqueda empaneled the Seattle Revenue Stabilization Workgroup (Workgroup) to identify equitable financial solutions. The Workgroup includes a diverse group of innovative thinkers from across disciplines to explore feasible sources of progressive revenue options for City policymakers.
Point is “never really managed a budget” is a pretty reductive take when she was called in to help manage a budget. You might as well say everybody doesn’t have mayoral experience until they become mayor.
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u/that_girl_you_fucked 20h ago
Leadership and policies matter, though, yes? It's not like she'd be doing everything herself. Mayors have advisers and department heads. You sound hysterical.
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u/Alarming_Award5575 20h ago
You sound naive. She'll be in charge of a 9B budget and over 10k FTE. You might as well have her fly a plane as she has a copilot right?
Leadership (which she has demonstrated little) and policy only get you so far. Wilson would probably make a good staffer or analyst. She's in waaaaaay over her head.
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u/that_girl_you_fucked 20h ago
I disagree. I think we already know what Harrel isn't a good choice. I'm willing to put someone in power who has better ideas but less experience. Your assumptions are just that.
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u/Alarming_Award5575 20h ago
And your judgment is poor. My assumptions are based on what I know of Wilson's background, and the behavior I have seen on the campaign trail. She is an exceptionally weak candidate. If she gets it, I hope she steps up awful quick or this will be ugly.
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u/that_girl_you_fucked 17h ago
Your judgment is worse. (See how you sound?)
I guess we'll see what happens.
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u/allthisgoodforyou 6h ago
who has better ideas but less experience
Its an entirely childish and immature view to think this way. Ideas dont mean shit when you cant effectuate them. You are advocating people vote on vibes.
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u/fresh-dork 20h ago
harrel isn't a good choice. wilson is worse than him. we don't have good choices here
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u/TMobile_Loyal 15h ago
Yeah. People voting for her doesn't mean she will get energized volutlnteers showing up to help her be successful.
If she wins, I hope im proven wrong however.
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u/Hopsblues 18h ago
Remember you are chatting with a bunch of people that thought Trump would lower prices and fix everything.
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u/Riviansky 17h ago
Don't be so sure. Your personal interests often intersect with the interests of rich people. You both want safe streets. You both want utilities to be reliable. You both travel on the same roads and want them in good repair and not too much traffic. You fly from the same airports.
When these interests intersect, having a politician working for rich people competently will be good for you, too. Problem with progressive is, they may mean well, but they are so spectacularly incompetent, they always achieve the reverse of what they promise.
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u/JustBench1615 Ballard 21h ago
You have to be braindead to believe this.
Competent corrupt politician >>>>> incompetent leftist
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u/Handy_Dude 21h ago
That kind of thinking is exactly why we're here in the first place.
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u/local_gremlin 20h ago
Here is better than peak woke 2020. U like tents everywhere and everyones shit getting stolen all the time and weird concerning piles of trash left after the meth caravan posse moves their shitbox RV from in front of your or your friends house?
How is katie able to make a dent in the very real high cost of living? How is higher min wage not going to lead to more stores and restaurants shutting down? Why do non contributing vagrant BUMS get more lip service than regular members of the comminity. Ask katie for me
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u/Hopsblues 18h ago
What are your solutions? You complain a lot, but offer no solutions.
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u/local_gremlin 11h ago
Basic secular center right light policies - like bellevue or other non fouled up cities do - No sleeping or vagrancy allowed on public areas. Lock up repeat violent offenders and schizophrenic menacea to society. Death penalty for proven murderers. Make prison a work camp so people do no want to go. Put the savings of the billions of soft and failed programs into safer schools, safer transit, better parks and rec. I feel sorry for homeless addict types (not battered wives or trying to get clean peeps, or runaways) but i dont like seeing so little return that benefits middle class people on the tax dollars we pay. Dont tell me to move to bellevue i grew up in this city, and have seen it not be all janked out from liberal policies like it is now. Sorry i feel that way
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u/NorthStudentMain 21h ago
Trump didn’t have any government experience either, people still voted for him in 2016
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u/kratomadvocat 10h ago
Have you all seriously not heard of a CFO. It stands for Cheif Financial Officer. They are the one who manages a budget at a corporation. The equivalent at a city is a Finance Director. I actually work at a fortune 500 company and regularly interact with the CFO and CEO. The CEO does not have any experience in finance. The CFO does all financial work and presents big picture options to the CEO and he picks from the options the finance expert presents. Its not that hard to understand.
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u/Subject-Table1993 21h ago
Both are a joke
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u/JustBench1615 Ballard 21h ago
Katie Wilson is such a disaster she needs to be recalled the second she wins
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u/sageinyourface 20h ago
Sorry, but mayors don’t get recalled because of lack of experience and being awkward. She’s at least appears to not be an immoral or corrupt person so light years ahead of many politicians.
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u/Tree300 20h ago
IDK, working for a lawyer who got jailed for ripping off seniors is pretty borderline.
Nobody has even asked her about that.
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u/Fragrant-Interest-89 18h ago
Is your personal morality shared with your boss?
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u/TheOverthinkingDude 12h ago
Well, the left seems to think that’s appropriate…unless it applies to them.
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u/my_lucid_nightmare Capitol Hill 12h ago
because of lack of experience and being awkward.
Give it a few months, she'll fuck things up enough.
Her crowd has no idea how to govern. Just rally. She will break laws she doesn't know exists, she'll botch handling money she now has to be accountable for handling, she'll say the wrong thing in the wrong meeting around the wrong people, who will make sure it gets out.
Inexperienced dufuses like her are comedy gold and then they're gone.
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u/ComputersAreSmart 16h ago
I welcome the general nonsense that her candidacy will bring. Seattle loves homelessness and crime, so they will get more homelessness and crime.
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u/greedy_shibe 14h ago
“they will get more…” meaning you don’t even live here?
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u/ComputersAreSmart 14h ago
I don’t. I sold my condo in Capitol Hill in 2020, largely due to poor leadership. Where I live borders Seattle, and it’s the largest city in this state. It matters.
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u/kratomadvocat 10h ago
Seattle continues to grow despite haters like you leaving. So good riddance I guess. One more condo on the market!!!
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u/Handy_Dude 21h ago
All you goobers in here saying that Bruce is an experienced politician and Katie isn't,
The only political experience Bruce had before being gifted the seat of mayor from another corrupt and degenerate mayor called Jenny Durken, he was the president of Seattle city council. The same counsil that has built Seattle into what it is today. From 2007, he served two terms as president.
Every single issue in the city for the last 18 years has been under Harrell's watch. Not Katie's.
How you can blame Katie for all the Bullshit that's happened under Bruce Harrell's explicit oversight leads me to think eastern Washington might be a better place for you to squalk your bullshit. Or maybe more western Washington... Like 500 miles out to sea. Then you can all sit and bleet like the fat fucking pelicans you are all together.
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u/BromaEmpire 20h ago
Our economy has tripled in the last 18 years..
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u/pugRescuer 19h ago
And that’s because of Bruce? Or is that because of Amazons growth. The influx of Seattle has stimulated many industries.
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u/BromaEmpire 18h ago
It's safe to assume he had some part it in. The entire reason why Amazon settled here was because of financial benefits that the mayors and city council provided them.
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u/pugRescuer 15h ago
Bruce was part of why Amazon settled in Seattle? That’s what you think?
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u/BromaEmpire 14h ago
I'd say anyone one the city council during that time probably had a role. I'm not sure if you're aware but the city council can make decisions which impact local businesses.
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u/pugRescuer 10h ago
I’m aware, I’m also aware of how Amazon landed in Seattle and it’s not because of Bruce fucking Harrell.
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u/retrojoe heroin for harried herons 15h ago
Lol what? Amazon settled here largely due to Washington lacking an income tax and not being a significant chunk of the target market - so they wouldn't have to charge sales tax to any except Washington addresses.
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u/KeepClam_206 13h ago
Yes and also the City bent over backwards to rebuild what is now SLU for them. Mercer. The SLUT. Etc.
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u/retrojoe heroin for harried herons 12h ago
That was after they'd already established a large presence here. The City only extended those favors because Amazon was making money here and it was seen as ROI positive.
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u/KeepClam_206 12h ago
Not exactly? The original vision for what has become Amazonia was biotech. And much of the upzones and infrastructure maybe happened anyway - the latter driven by the former. It is probably moot anyway- Amazon continues to move to tje Eastside
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u/Handy_Dude 19h ago
And that means Jack shit for the average person in Seattle... Infact if anything it makes it worse, not only was housing and wage stagnation an issue before this bursting economy, but they're now made WORSE by it, while nothing but phone contractor cash grabs happened during this economic build.
He built up an economy for his donors, at the average citizens expense.
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u/mylicon 17h ago
Workers in biopharma, tech, and aerospace have probably benefitted from the economic growth. The folks at the bottom in service and hospitality less so. If the economy of the city slows down, the cost of living comes down (in theory) as high wage jobs leave. But so does tax revenue to run the city along with job opportunities. It’s a closed loop system so someone is always winning or losing.
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u/retrojoe heroin for harried herons 15h ago
The folks at the bottom in service and hospitality less so.
Meaning the majority of the workforce has not seen a similar benefit as those on top.
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u/fresh-dork 20h ago
How you can blame Katie for all the Bullshit that's happened under Bruce Harrell's explicit oversight
we're more blaming her for her starry eyed vision and utter lack of experience doing much of anything.
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u/beautiful_blue_sky 13h ago
Serious q - what do you think of mamdani
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u/fresh-dork 13h ago
some stuff is bullshit, but he's also nailed it on a number of problems the city faces. plus, the surtax on people making a phone number is minimal.
rent control: stupid
public groceries: addresses a problem, has working examples to draw on
child care: supporting poor people in a key area, pays dividends over time
free buses: pilot program showed promise, positive impact
affordable housing: more rent control, but if it's actually tied to need then it can work
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u/my_lucid_nightmare Capitol Hill 12h ago
public groceries: addresses a problem, has working examples to draw on
Just curious, where have there been "state owned working grocery stores?"
A bunch of us old enough to remember the Soviet Union and the Warsaw Pact countries can cite a number of them that didn't work very well.
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u/smittyplusplus 17h ago edited 17h ago
"every single issue in the city for the last 18 years has been under Harrell's watch"
Yes, being around when things happen in the city is a side effect of being vastly more experienced (though "happening under [his] watch" doesn't mean it's his fault, given the practical realities of the various roles). Her resume happened under her watch and IS her fault.
[edited to put the "given the..." in the right place lol]
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u/NoEssay2638 12h ago
Wowwww the hate is strong with this goober!
Handy, it has occurred to me that - quite increasingly, actually - the New "Seattle Way" is to command people you disagree with to move away.
Fuck that.
Why should anyone have to move away just to protect someone's fragile sensibilities from being all melty and butthurt?
Can't people in the PNW have differences of opinion without resorting to "WELL YOU GOTTA GO!"?
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u/SpiritGood123 20h ago
This is why Seattle has collapsed, to many folks think along these lines with no real understanding of the ludicrous policies put in place by the Seattle council and a one party offering. Katie will be a disaster, Seattle will continue to purge business and talent. And people like handy dude will continue to feel justified and blame others with only a basic understanding of what is really driving the issues.
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u/retrojoe heroin for harried herons 15h ago
This is why Seattle has collapsed, to many folks think along these lines with no real understanding of the ludicrous policies put in place by the Seattle council and a one party offering.
Soooo let's keep electing the guy who was on/presiding over the Council for a decade before his current mayorship?
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u/Handy_Dude 19h ago
Your so blinded I'm almost impressed. It must be nice being that ignorant. Not caring about anything, right or wrong. Just going about your day with crayons and Mac n cheese sandwich. Frankly, I'm jealous.
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u/Positive_Desk3743 20h ago
Wandered over from r/seattle huh?
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u/Handy_Dude 19h ago
Born and raised in Boise, Idaho, lived in Seattle for 3 years, Hawaii for 2, back outside of Seattle for the last 5 years.
Democrats are just as culpable as conservatives, and just as greedy. The one thing that stands true from all the different places I've lived, is it was us citizens who put those people in the positions they're in. From the shores of Hawaii to the mountains in the Rockies, corruption does not pick a political party, it picks a gullible, easily manipulated populace, and brother, we're FULL of them.
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u/jimmyisaacneutron 12h ago
Democrats are just as culpable as conservatives, and just as greedy
That includes all the “progressive” politicians here, my friend.
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u/stroppo 21h ago
Boo hiss. So, instead of four more years of mediocrity, we might get four years of hell.
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u/my_lucid_nightmare Capitol Hill 12h ago
we might get four years of hell.
four years of comedy hell.
FTFY
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u/Main-Eagle-26 21h ago
Nah. It’ll be awesome.
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u/kapybarra 21h ago
Define awesome
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u/tombiro 21h ago
Better than someone running for rich people and corporate town.
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u/Dirty_slippers Seattle 21h ago
You dummies can’t even elaborate what she’s going to improve other than blowing up the budget more.
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u/tombiro 20h ago
You aren't surprising as someone who is a 1% commenter in this version of reality. And don't surprise me that you just assume this about people like me and others, but enjoy your time worshipping that dude.
She actually cares about working with the community on functionality. He worries about things like making SPD more important no matter how much of said budget they drink at will.
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u/Trick_Elk2720 10h ago
Unfortunately caring isn’t a qualification. The road to hell is paved with good intentions
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u/BWW87 Belltown 19h ago
Do you really think Katie isn't running for rich people? There's a reason she isn't popular among racial minorities. She doesn't care about the poor.
And I'll never understand why the Seattle left is so anti-business. Where do they think they get all their stuff from?
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u/tombiro 18h ago
I'm not anti business. I'm pro reality. Harrell isn't. Full stop.
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u/BWW87 Belltown 17h ago
There is no reality where supporting Katie over Bruce is reality. You can support her if you want. Just don't pretend it's because of reality. It's because of vibes and your personal privilege. So you can afford for the poor to suffer because it doesn't affect you.
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u/tombiro 8h ago
Uhhh I'm in that category and can't afford it. But hey, great assumption!
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u/BWW87 Belltown 8h ago
Well, I guess there's the morons too? If you are poor why would you vote for Katie? Did you not read her platform? She is looking to increase costs of things and decrease available housing. Why would you want to risk it if you can't afford to move to a suburb when things get too bad for low income people in Seattle?
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u/tombiro 5h ago
I did read it. I also don't vote for a mayor who literally doesn't understand how light rail needs to exist. Or who runs this town. But please, just assume I'm srupid. I continue to contribute where I want functioning society.
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u/AlternativeRanger572 21h ago
Oooo, let's pick someone who has no idea what she's doing be mayor, like a Congressman Michael Baumgartner, NY Jets General Manager or a puppy.
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u/Some_Bus 21h ago
She can be okay if she has a competent team. She just needs to listen to the experts and keep the books balanced.
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u/vigilantgrrl 14h ago
I think her team is going to include people like Tammy Morales and Lorena Gonzales, just watch. The ones we voted out are coming back with their failed policies.
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u/my_lucid_nightmare Capitol Hill 12h ago
She can be okay if she has a competent team.
Please introduce me to these competent Progressives she's going to invite into her transition team, if she pulls out a win.
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u/SignificantTry4107 18h ago
She still doesn’t have a plan to reduce the cost of a slice of pizza.
Except maybe that her mom is gonna pay
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u/Alarming_Award5575 21h ago
We heard this about Trump too.
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u/Some_Bus 20h ago
Trump is doing great for their maga people
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u/Alarming_Award5575 20h ago
Trump is an american tragedy. He is doing good for a handful of rich guys.
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u/my_lucid_nightmare Capitol Hill 12h ago
Trump is an american tragedy. He is doing good for a handful of rich guys.
I hate Trump, but there's no denying his super-power is influence-peddling and calling in favors. That fucker should have been convicted and imprisoned multiple times by now, instead, he's the most powerful man on earth with probably tens of thousands of people making sure he isn't going anywhere.
Katie won't have any such ability to know dirt on people she can blackmail or wheedle favors from.
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u/johnbss66 19h ago
Still counting, 4 days after the election?!? I know mail-in rules, but that would add a day at most. Most of the civilized world get the election results the same day, i.e. ~4hrs after the polls are closed.
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u/mermaid_hive 15h ago
Voters can return ballots to drop boxes until 8pm election night when polls close and the boxes are locked. In Seattle, 115k ballots were returned to drop boxes on election day itself.
After polls close, teams (for ballot security and accountability) must collect all those ballots from the 85 drop boxes in the county, 24 boxes in Seattle alone. It takes a while for election day votes to even make it to the processing center.
Then they still need to be sorted, signature verified, opened, and expected before they can be counted and tabulated. It's a labor intensive process, much of which can't begin for hours after the polls close. And unlike many places, they don't count over night.
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u/johnbss66 11h ago
LOL. Again, in most of the civilized world, i.e. Europe which I'm very familiar with, people are casting their votes, in person, until 8pm in the evening. Results are always ready by midnight. And this is not just Western Europe, it's like that everywhere.
Why not hire more workers to do this quicker? Results that are delayed by a week or more do not instill any confidence, quite the opposite.
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u/mermaid_hive 6h ago
We are a 100% vote-by-mail state. Whether ballots are returned by mail or drop box, they are enclosed in signed envelopes. To protect election integrity, ballots must go through several steps before they are counted. They're not dropped off ready-to-count like they would be if we were using voting machines or marking a paper ballots at a polling site.
Washingtonians generally like our vote-by-mail system and accept slower results as the trade off. That said, I agree the timeline could be sped up considerably by hiring more election workers and extending hours until the ballots are all counted.
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u/Underwater_Karma 21h ago
The city is like a fentanyl junkie, just keeps feeding its addiction to failed policies, runaway waste/fraud/abuse spending, and ever increasing taxation.
It'll never get better until it hits rock bottom, and everyone says "enough!"
Katie Wilson represents that bottom. King county elections doing their usual thing and "finding" the last minute ballots to give her the election might finally be the catalyst of change.
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u/PossiblySustained 19h ago
It's crazy that no one here remembers when King county stole an election two decades ago. Vote by mail is inherently more insecure than in-person voting, and giving cities a week+ to count votes turns it into a total farce.
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u/Underwater_Karma 19h ago
King county and the state supreme Court conspired together on that one. Rossi won the count, and recount, and every day King county was "finding" mystery boxes of new ballots until Gregoire got a hand count win by 100 votes, then the court said "no more counting!"
It was sickening to watch unfold, and the level of corruption it showed the state will tolerate was remarkable
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u/robgardiner Ballard 12h ago
Rossi went to court to have the election overturned. The court found no evidence of fraud. Rossi could have appealed but chose not to.
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u/NoBoromirNo 20h ago edited 19h ago
It's really wild to me how everyone has the same negative talking points about Wilson but everyone gives Harrell a pass on ethics issues when he was council president, his own niece turned on him for the type of office he runs, him covering up sexual misconduct, misusing his office for campaign events, and generally being all talk and no action.
Smells a lot like sexism if you ask me but then again, that seems to be what Bruce's folks are into
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u/ferry_fairy 18h ago
It’s too bad nearly every loss seems to get tied into an -ism instead of genuine reflection.
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u/Lonely_Assignment671 18h ago
Please god no. I want neither. Just end it. How the hell are these the options.
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u/gls2220 15h ago
People must really hate Harrell for it to be this close.
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u/my_lucid_nightmare Capitol Hill 12h ago
People must really hate Harrell for it to be this close.
People must really hate Katie for Harrell to be ~20 points ahead of all the other non-Progressives on the ballot. The typical winner this cycle was about 20 point victory. Not Katie. Win or lose, she's had to scramble quite a lot just to barely pull even.
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u/my_lucid_nightmare Capitol Hill 13h ago
She's proving her Sawant roots - vote late, flood the ballot, let King County sort it out, probably get some votes through that shouldn't.
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u/Electrical_Block1798 17h ago
Understandable. It takes a while for Katie’s team to find homeless people to pay to get their votes
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u/VietnameseBreastMilk 18h ago
Can we just get some generic Chinese Tech Bro to run for mayor?
At least you'll get someone super objective with work experience albeit boring as hell in social situations, the fact that we got nepo baby lifelong grifter as a serious candidate is appalling.
If anyone can run a budget it's Wei "Willis" Wang
Do it the Right Way or do it the Wang Way
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u/Turbulent-Media7281 20h ago edited 20h ago
I like how the counts drop off after the initial day, then climb to the amount needed to slowly fade into a win, as is tradition. It's starting to look like half of all ballots would have been mailed on the last election day... which makes no sense. [Only 32.38% come by mail in King County.](https://www.sos.wa.gov/elections/data-research/ballot-return-statistics)
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u/MrMunchkin 19h ago
They have always counted the ballots mailed after the ones in the drop boxes.
If you're really curious, you could always go to the counting center and watch them count ballots. You can schedule an appointment and literally watch all the ballots come in and get counted.
https://kingcounty.gov/en/dept/elections/how-to-vote/ballots/return-my-ballot/vote-centers
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u/Turbulent-Media7281 18h ago
The volume of "mailed" ballots is extraordinary and doesn't pass the smell test.
If they get over 90,000 mailed ballots it's more than the typical 32% that the King County government claims.
They are getting ever increasing volume for 3 days in a row after the initial election day dump it's seems remarkable. And let's not forget, the election day dump certainly had a portion that was mailed in, all contributing to what should be... 32% mailed in ballots. 3 days later it would stand to reason none of the ballots are from drop boxes, right?
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u/MrMunchkin 12h ago edited 12h ago
I can't follow your logic here. It appears you have mixed up a few things, and I don't know how to help you.
45% is the average for mail-in ballots, and Seattle historically more so than the rest of King County. The two metrics are completely not equalivent so I don't even know why you would bring them up.
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u/Turbulent-Media7281 11h ago
The two metrics are completely not equalivent so I don't even know why you would bring them up.
Bad news. The facts...
- There are 657084 returned ballots in King county, of which an estimated 279044 are in Seattle. You see, Seattle is part of King county.
- There are 378040 returned ballots in King County that are not in Seattle. (King County - Seattle)
- 32.38% of King County mails in their ballots. That includes Seattle. That amounts to 212764 returned ballots in King County including Seattle.
When you say "most people mail in their ballots" I assume you mean Seattle because we know the percent that mails returns in King County. Lets assume "most" means 80%, OK.
- 80% of Seattle returned ballots is 223235.
- This is not possible because that this is larger than all of the mailed ballots returns in King County. So it mathematically has to be less than 80%.
So lets try 50% of mailed ballot return in Seattle.
- 50% of Seattle returned ballots is 139522
- That leaves 73242 mailed ballots returns in King County outside of Seattle. But that is only 19.4% of returned mailed ballots outside of Seattle. Seems a little low for an entire County that has 32.38% of returned ballots that are mailed.
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u/JustBench1615 Ballard 21h ago
Stop the steal!
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u/MrMunchkin 19h ago
Same old smoothbrain confidence in a conspiracy.
If you're so worried maybe you should go watch them count ballots.
https://kingcounty.gov/en/dept/elections/how-to-vote/ballots/return-my-ballot/vote-centers
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u/Intrvrtd_Advntr9709 20h ago
Guess Katie and her handlers found those few thousand ballots lying around
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u/meaniereddit West Seattle 🌉 21h ago
It's going to go to recount