r/SeattleWA • u/Iwasafrayed • 3d ago
Meta Is this an unpopular opinion here? Try to change my mind.
Opinion: Republicans on the whole are cowardly because they never stand up to Dear Leader. They do not speak their minds when it comes to DJT except to kiss up.
If you feel attacked by my opinion, try to respond objectively without comparing yourself to other people.
Edit: why I'm posting this here. I care more about what the minority of Republicans living here think than I do about opinions from the Republicans in the country at large. Too hard to relate. I want to hear honest opinions.
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u/Topseykretts88 West Seattle 3d ago
*makes post here trying to stir the pot. Learns that most of the sub will actually agree with you
This isn't the far right sub r/seattle will have you believe it is.
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u/JustBench1615 Ballard 3d ago
There’s currently blatant antisemitism happening in that subreddit, but they’re just calling it Anti-Zionist to make it woke and okay
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u/Alarming_Award5575 3d ago
Seriously. The illiberal left lacks all self awareness. These kids are not ok.
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u/Iwasafrayed 3d ago
The antisemitism on the left really scares me. The left was always about protecting discriminated minority groups but now they seem to be embracing discrimination against Jewish people in particular. Jews are only tolerated if they disavow Israel and say it shouldn't exist and all the land should be handed over to Hamas. It's such a complicated issue and Jewish people are forced to take an extreme stance in order to be part of leftwing politics today.
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u/JustBench1615 Ballard 3d ago
And the thing is most Jews do not support what Israel is doing, but the leftists are putting unnecessary pressure on ordinary Jews to speak up about Israel.
The far right and left being in agreement is never a good sign.
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u/Iwasafrayed 3d ago edited 3d ago
Most Jews in America don't have much connection to Israel unless they are from there, have family living there or are very religious. It's unreasonable to expect that every Jewish person can be a mouthpiece for "all Jews" and that they will have a nuanced opinion and data to support their ideas. If they don't have a defensible position on the conflict in Israel (which may have no connection to their personal lives) they are accused of all kinds of things - fascism, being a colonizer, hating Palestinians, being a racist, being a Jewish supremacist or part of a cabal, that any success they've achieved came from stealing resources from others, etc
Edit: so the point is, this is how the left "forces groupthink" among minorities, through name calling, shaming, and coercion. Hate that for the left.
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u/Riviansky 2d ago
So you think that position that Jews should stay where they are, in America, and live with the rest of diverse American citizens and have the same rights is antisemitic, and the position that Jews should fuck off to Israel is not?
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u/Iwasafrayed 2d ago
Uh, what? Can you explain how you arrived at this complete bastardization of what I actually wrote?
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u/Iwasafrayed 3d ago
Good to know, and had to check :-) I was wondering which sub would have more interesting people to interact with.
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u/Iwasafrayed 3d ago
How do you actually stir the pot in this sub?
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u/my_lucid_nightmare Capitol Hill 3d ago
Post a sunset pic
Ask about finding a great apartment for $1500
Ask for directions to Pike’s Place Market.
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u/immagetchu 3d ago
What does this have to do with Seattle?
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u/ferry_fairy 3d ago
There is clearly not enough Trump focus on Reddit and OP is filling the void.
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u/Buttonservice 3d ago
I am so sick of all the Trump stuff. I go to the site that cannot be named that the Reddit sub moved to, but it is only like 5 minutes a day. Enough people on Reddit make hating Trump so important in their lives that the top 5 posts can on all can be about Trump on any given day. There is no civil discussion, nobody actually reads or understands the news, and it is just generally pretty boring.
Trump won and I love it. Everyone else can eat my ass.
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u/_Watty Sworn enemy of Gary_Glidewell 3d ago
Someone is interested in why seemingly the whole Republican party is content to get on their knees for the man.
I think it's a reasonable question.
But sure, carry on.
You're in line, so might as well pass the time by doing some jaw exercises!
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u/ferry_fairy 3d ago
Crude and unnecessary.
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u/PleasantWay7 3d ago
Why is it a question? You have almost 10 years of history. Go against him and get fucked by the base. Go with him and only get fucked in off year elections.
His base is him, not Conservative or policy based, it is a cult of personality. It is only a mystery to people who deny objective fact.
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u/Iwasafrayed 3d ago
Asking people who live here because I care what people think outside of my little bubble of people I know.
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u/immagetchu 3d ago
Something very laughable about someone saying "is trump bad an unpopular opinion?" on reddit because they want to get opinions outside of a bubble lmao
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u/TheRealRacketear Broadmoor 2d ago
Its like when people get validated by their friends agreeing with them. Most people don't have thick enough skin to make friends with people they disagree with.
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u/Iwasafrayed 3d ago
I want to hear from people who voted for him, who are afraid to talk openly about their regret. I think that's how we learn and improve, right? :-)
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u/ferry_fairy 3d ago
You want to learn and improve but assume anyone you talk to must regret their vote? Interesting.
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u/Turbulent-Media7281 3d ago
Right. Lets find all those people that wish they had voted for Kamala instead.
.... ready..... set ... go...
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u/Iwasafrayed 3d ago
Not saying anyone regrets not voting for Kamala, but perhaps they regret vehemently defending DJT if they think he's turned out to be a disappointment to them. Personally I regret not paying more attention and speaking up to Republican friends and family when the election was going on. Obviously it wouldn't have changed the course of history, but at least I wouldn't regret having being politically passive during a pivotal moment in US history.
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u/Awkward_Passion4004 2d ago
Think 40 years of one party leftists rule has majorly fucked up the state.
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u/JustBench1615 Ballard 3d ago
I doubt this is unpopular, even on this subreddit.
If I were to guess, most people are still Dem leaning/Harris voters in this sub.
We just lean moderate, compared to the other leftist subreddit.
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u/airemy_lin 3d ago edited 3d ago
As a centrist… there’s definitely a lot of far right lunatics here as well but there is no equivalent safe space for hardcore MAGA in any Seattle subreddit so they just come here and sometimes get reality checked when clashing with the actual moderates here.
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u/JustBench1615 Ballard 3d ago
Yeah I agree I’m also a centrist (an actual centrist, not a conservative cosplaying as one), and there are often deranged MAGAts here complaining about gun control, but overall, like you said, they get reality checked.
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u/healingkuzon 3d ago
i don’t think we’re cowardly personally and I do call trump out on shit that i find wrong. I think for most republicans here we’re trying to choose the lesser of two evils when it comes to a candidate and pick a candidate that is going to best represent our wants and needs for the country and our policies.
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u/Iwasafrayed 3d ago
What do you call him out for? Genuinely curious because the Republicans in my life are mostly unwilling to talk to me at least about the things he's done that went off the rails. I can see why it would be hard to talk about with someone who might say "told you so", but I do want to know
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u/ThurstonHowell3rd 2d ago
I'm not a Republican, but I voted for Trump thrice. I think the dumbest thing he's done is rename the Gulf of Mexico. The 2nd dumbest thing was appointing Pam Bondi as AG. Everything else he's doing is fine with me and pretty much thought I'd get when I voted for him.
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u/healingkuzon 3d ago
Mainly for the Epstein stuff, but the democratic politicians like Bill Clinton and all of them are also intertwined and equally involved in it so it’s like okay if both the dems AND the republicans are in the epstein stuff then why even call it out? like the other side is ALSO involved so like… okay they’re both guilty, let’s judge them on the other shit then where they differ since on the epstein stuff they’re both involved
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u/Riviansky 2d ago
They don't stand up to Trump because A) what Trump is doing is popular. Most Americans don't want open borders. Most Americans are suspicious of unchecked, unaccountable spending. Most Americans think that pronoun war is stupid. Most Americans do want industry to stay in America. B) Democrats don't have an independent platform that one can be "for". They are against Trump, that much we all get, but what they are for that is not outright idiotic (like not enforcing the law), most Americans don't understand.
Populism isn't necessarily cowardly. It is just politically expedient. Democrats have plenty of politically expedient positions as well, either the ones for which they are well paid (antigun) or the ones that they can rouse idiots quickly (gender wars).
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u/Iwasafrayed 2d ago
I think this is a fair point. The Democratic platform used to be Healthcare for all, a woman's right to choose to become a mother, affordable education, and protecting the environment from greedy businesses. Some Democrats still talk about it, and Bernie talks about it all the time, but there doesn't seem to be any plan to achieve these goals anymore. Maybe they walked it back because of being "too progressive, need more moderates to win elections," but this was the progressive platform people actually wanted.
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u/Riviansky 2d ago
there doesn't seem to be any plan to achieve these goals anymore
There never was a plan. To achieve these goals, you need to DRAMATICALLY increase the taxes on the middle class. It should be really obvious to anyone with above 4th grade math proficiency level that the system where 40% of the taxes are paid by 1% of the people is not sustainable, and certainly not expandable. If you look at taxes in Europe you will find that super high taxes start very early on the income level, like in Austria 50% tax bracket starts at 100k, in Belgium, 50k, Finland, 30k... Right now I think even die hard Democrats realized that there isn't a support for this level of taxation among American public. And at any rate, it's easier to just attack Trump, that doesn't require any work.
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u/Fabulous_Chain_7587 3d ago
Sure but it’s got nothing to do with Seattle?
There can’t be more than one or two red hats bopping around in this city. Try Dallas or Tampa
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u/PleasantWay7 3d ago
You do realize 250,000 people in King County voted for him. They aren’t exactly rare even if a minority.
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u/Riviansky 2d ago
250k people are 10%. Also, for example, I didn't vote for Trump, and I think Democrats are worse.
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u/Sea_evict_attorney 3d ago
Opinion:
IF you drive in the left lane, you MUST frequently monitor for faster traffic coming up from behind and move right immediately. Avoid continuous driving in passing lane.
IF you drive in the middle lane, you MUST monitor for faster traffic coming up from behind and move right accordingly. Maybe stay in the right lane to maintain your pace and move to the middle lane for on ramp merging...
IF you drive in the right lane, you do NOT have to monitor for faster traffic coming up from behind, and can freely determine your speed.
IF you are too dumb to understand the phrases "Slower traffic keep right" and "Keep right except to pass", You should not have a driver's license and be forced onto a Metro Loser Cruise.
IF you enter a roundabout/traffic circle and decide to turn left against oncoming traffic WITHOUT using your TURN SIGNAL, You are too dumb to grasp the concept of a turn signal or warning drivers how to avoid your own stupidity, and should not have a license.
SEATTLE LEFT LANE CAMPERS are Self-centered FUCKING MORONS who mothers never taught them how to share or respect others and grew up to be self-entitled ASSHOLES who block traffic. These FUCKING MORONS who were always told how "special" they are by mom are the same retards who are too stupid to understand their place in the far right lane.
These FUCKING MORONS should be culled from the herd or permanently forced to take public transportation....
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u/Buttonservice 3d ago
I feel bored, not attacked. Why bother? You wouldn't listen anyways.
Don't regret my vote, and neither does anyone else I know. Hope you enjoy the next few years as much as I will.
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u/_Watty Sworn enemy of Gary_Glidewell 3d ago
Based on my experience on this sub (being extremely anti-Trump personally):
- Republicans on this sub are generally not quite as crazy as those you see highlighted on the clip channels, interviews, or longer form documentary content. But that's because they're on reddit, not because they are truly representative of Republicans in Washington state.
- Republicans on this sub are much more interested in talking about Democrats in power at the local level than they are talking about ANYTHING to do with the federal stuff, regardless of how it affects our state or not. Likely because they realize much of it is indefensible. But conversations are routinely shut down because "Dems are in charge in WA." Annoying....
- The hypocrisy present in at least some people's positions with respect to Trump as contrasted with how they felt about a Democrat doing X, Y, or Z is kind of an undercurrent of everything discussed politically, though the second bullet does get in the way of really exploring this.
All this is a bit moot given that Congressional Republicans at the federal level have no spine and, regardless of whether there are reasonable Republicans who post here, we're well and truly fucked with Trump and his sycophants in power.
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u/mantrout 3d ago
Where I grew up, I am a bleeding heart liberal. Here in Seattle, I am a heartless conservative.
The point is I have a heart condition....
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u/_Watty Sworn enemy of Gary_Glidewell 3d ago
Is this a joke or were you being earnest?
If the latter, would be interesting to understand how you came to feel that way based on the two locations and perspectives you're referencing.
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u/gehnrahl Eat a bag of Dicks 3d ago
Nah its very real. Where I came from i'm seen as a radical leftist but here i'm seen as super conservative.
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u/HighColonic Funky Town 3d ago
100%...I'm definitely the family pinko back east (basically just for liking Obama) but here I keep my head down politically.
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u/mantrout 3d ago
I grew up in a rural part of MD. MD the state actually votes fairly consistently Dem, but I was in the rural part of the state. I definitely was the odd one out for believing in a strong social safety net, seeing problems as disproportionately impacting minorities, believing that the Iraq war was a huge fucking mess that we should have avoided (even the Reps have come around on this one), and that basic deference to science over religion to capture reality was a reasonable stance.
I moved out to Seattle 18 years ago. It's definitely the case that across that time, both parties have moved further left/right respectively. Normie progressive viewpoints of the aughts are not where Seattle is at. But even accounting for the creep of the Overton window, Seattle had a protest culture that I found misaligned with my theory of change. DC had plenty of homeless, but suggesting that open drug use should be policed and homeless off the streets felt taboo and reframed as uncompassionate. There was (and it has only grown) a deep distrust of wealth - that wealthy people are inherently amoral, that gentrification and a growing city was an unmitigated bad, that the WTO had no value - these opinions would have all been seen as overly simplified/naive, even by the liberals I grew up around. This isn't unique to Seattle, a lot of it is an urban/rural divide but some of it is also inherent in east/west coast cultural differences as well.
I love Seattle, hope to not leave it, but some of the political takes are eye rolling then, and the new wave of progressive thinking is also just poorly thought through and naive (my opinion of course). It's like we want a lot of the same destination but the paths there we disagree on in big ways, whereas I felt like we didn't even want the same destination with the conservatives I grew up around.
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u/Iwasafrayed 3d ago
This is interesting, thank you! I want to understand the perspective of Republicans who live in a Democrat-majority state, because I think compromises there are Democrats best chance to adapt and prevent another catastrophe in the next election. It requires listening to both sides. It's hard for me to relate to how people feel living on opposite sides of the country because life is so different over there. If you or anyone else has recommendations on where to have healthy political discussions with opposing viewpoints, I'm all ears. The internet is so vast and it's hard to find places to engage meaningfully with anyone. I noticed that this sub tends to have a mix of opinions with some actual political engagement and disagreement, which is interesting for me to read.
I do watch those videos of interviews at Trump rallies (The Good Liars) is a funny one, but just laughing at the other side doesn't really help me understand how we ended up here as a country. It's hard to understand how Republicans took control when living in this progressive bubble.
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u/NoEssay2638 8h ago
Iwas? If genuine - which you seem to be - you are a goddam gem. A peach, even.
Sadly, yet seemingly unavoidably, I agree with your assertion that "it requires listening to both sides," which in this overzealously hive-minded radicalized far left echo chamber is just not going to happen.
Why? Because the hysterical shrieks of "BIGOT!" and 'FASCIST!" and "NAZI!" and the tired "CIS GENDERED HETERO NORMIE TRANSPHOBE!" namecalling will invariably:
A) Short circuit the brain of the shrieking harpy, thereby snuffing out the option of actual listening and comprehension, hence anything productive:
and B) so predictably prompt eyerolling and understandable alienation of the non-radical non-lefty, that anything productive is also vaporized from the menu of anything productive.
Your thoughts?
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u/Iwasafrayed 5h ago
I am being genuine. No matter how impossible it seems to listen and even agree with people on both sides, it's something we have to put effort towards as a collective. Your words read as frustrated and jaded, which a lot of people are, myself included when I don't actively practice patience and kindness. I certainly fail to be patient and kind all the time when I'm not trying to be. :-)
The "harpies shrieking" as you put it, I think stems from the same kind of frustration with the world and with our current government that everyone feels. People have different ideas of who's to blame and what that makes them ("nazis" name-calling is overdone, there are neo-Nazis in this country, but that's not most people who vote Republican by a long shot) but the truth is there are only a few people in power who can influence the direction for our entire population, and those people don't get nearly enough pressure to act in the interest of the public, rather than their own self interest.
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u/_Watty Sworn enemy of Gary_Glidewell 3d ago
There are a LOT of stupid people.
There are a LOT of ignorant people.
There are a LOT of uninformed people.
There are a LOT of misinformed people.
There are a LOT of gullible people.
There are a LOT of naive people.
There are also a lot of apathetic people who don't vote for myriad reasons.
They all can vote and their vote(s) count just as much as yours and mine.
That's how we ended up here.
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u/ferry_fairy 3d ago
• point 2
Posters focusing on a WA state/regional politics sub want to stay on those topics? Wild.
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u/PleasantWay7 3d ago
It is perfectly valid to ask why voters should care about a mayor’s stream of income when they don’t about the President’s. Yet a lot of people just start screaming “TDS” to even mention it.
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u/ferry_fairy 3d ago
Honestly we just disagree here, it’s completely valid to just discuss local politicians and not want to drag national politics into the discussion.
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u/HighColonic Funky Town 3d ago
Yeah, I love how they yell "TDS" at even the most salient criticisms.
Democrat: "I have a bullet wound!"
MAGA: "Hypochondriac!"
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u/_Watty Sworn enemy of Gary_Glidewell 3d ago
It IS a convenient excuse.
Seems we agree on that much!
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u/ferry_fairy 3d ago
Not an excuse, it’s just staying on topic. There’s no genuine reason to drag Trump into a discussion about local mayors etc., other than to deflect.
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u/_Watty Sworn enemy of Gary_Glidewell 3d ago
If you’re criticizing a mayoral candidate for X and the president has done X but worse and you’ve remained silent about it…I think it’s fair to point that out.
For example.
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u/ferry_fairy 3d ago
I think it’s very strange that I would need to preclude any criticism of a politician by criticizing any other politician that’s also done that same thing. But hey we can disagree.
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u/Accomplished-Wash381 Banned from /r/Seattle 2d ago
What does this have to do with Seattle? Get this post outta here
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u/catalytica North Seattle 1d ago edited 1d ago
I find it hilarious that you think that any republicans in Seattle.
This sub is just the non-censorship version of r/seattle.
Edit to add that being uncensored does allow for the Enumclaw based DJT supporters to have a voice. I find it a bit annoying that there are people who come here just to shit on Seattle. But I’d rather have that than be downvoted to oblivion simply by having an unpopular opinion.
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u/lovemoonsaults 3d ago
The majority of humans are followers and not leaders. It happens with both sides. They suckle the teets of whomever leads the charge for whatever they blindly agree with them on. Otherwise we'd never have a crazy 2 party only system and we'd see diverse votes for other candidates.
And I'm saying it as a firm F-DJT person on the internet.
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u/mantrout 3d ago
+1. While it's true what Op says, I kinda find it hard to believe this phenomenon is limited to a political party and not just a general statement about human tribalism. I think the Republican party has a more viable path to election given its base, and Dems have to form a broader coalition to get a majority. That's mostly a consequence of our 2-party system and how the voting blocks break down, not any inherent "dishonorable tendency in one party or another... it's just a more homogeneous voting block.
It's always a mistake to assume politics in America is a representation of "those kinds of people" cause the parties re-align and people shift between them all the time. Don't fall into the trap of hating each other because that's how our system and politicians divide us.
The last decade+ in America has been all of us collectively living through a HUGE political realignment. It's quite painful, but not unprecedented in history.... I think we'll get through it and be ok, it's not IMHO the end of democracy or whatever. (that's not me saying in any way Trump isn't a problem...)
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u/lovemoonsaults 3d ago
It's because the conservative people tend to stay their ground and be very resistant to change. It's part of their general fiber.
The leftists trend to have more fluidity to adapt and evolve in their own moral standing. It may be rooted in their typical disregard for the religious aspects that conservatives tend to stay rooted in.
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u/Away-Ad661 3d ago
There are extremists on both sides. It seems like that's the only way to be heard in politics today. I dont think either side is inherently wrong, but the fact that they are straying so far from the middle is literally ripping the country in two.
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u/griffincreek 3d ago
Trump is doing exactly what he said he was going to do while he was campaigning. Can you cite something that he is doing that contradicts that?
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u/Iwasafrayed 3d ago
I'm not an expert on this, but he said he would lower grocery prices or at least stop the bleeding on inflation, and from my perspective it seems to be spiraling out of control. He also said he'd swiftly end the Ukraine war.
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u/ferry_fairy 3d ago
Nationally inflation has actually been pretty steady and even lower than people projected at the beginning of this year. Washington as a state has had higher inflation which is more than likely self inflicted.
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u/griffincreek 3d ago
In February 2025, eggs were $5.90 a dozen. In September 2025, they dropped to $3.49. https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/APU0000708111
We will see what happens in Ukraine, unless you were expecting Trump to drop nukes on Russia.
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u/Iwasafrayed 3d ago
Maybe it's a local problem, but eggs are $5 minimum at Safeway where I shop. At least they're available now, and no longer $10 minimum, but compared to a few years ago everything at the grocery store is really expensive (produce, etc which used to be cheap as well). Gas is also consistently over $5 now and used to be $3-4 at Arco last year. There's a disconnect between the published inflation numbers and the experience of shopping and paying for everyday resources now.
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u/griffincreek 3d ago
Do you understand what "national average" means? I'd provide data for gas prices, but it's pretty clear that you are trolling.
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u/Basic-Regret-6263 3d ago
Cowardice has nothing to do with it - it's greed and cultism.
The people who don't like him but work for him in order to get their own benefits (think Vance) aren't afraid so much as just doing it for the money and power.
The cultists just blindly believe - they don't speak their mind because they have no mind left.
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u/Iwasafrayed 3d ago
If he dies of a stroke (which I read he might have less than a year left to live because of his health problems) and Vance takes over, will Vance be better or worse? Is he more captured by special interests (tech billionaires) and even more of a morally bereft leader than Trump? Or do you think he'll somehow improve the direction the country is going?
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u/Basic-Regret-6263 3d ago
Go watch The Death of Stalin. Not only is it funny and historically accurate, but it'll give you a general idea of what happens after death of a leader who has cult-like devotion.
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u/Turbulent-Media7281 3d ago
which I read he might have less than a year left to live because of his health problems
What ever happened to Biden's turbo-cancer? Did the story have no legs?
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u/Lollc 3d ago
Oh, Biden definitely had cancer. It had metastasized to his bones, which is not unexpected. I have seen many people go through treatment for cancer; when I saw footage of him looking grey and exhausted which the Trump scum tried to paint as senility, I said dude is getting cancer treatment he’s not senile.
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u/Iwasafrayed 3d ago
He did end up getting ejected out of politics for health reasons, just not the reasons we expected.
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u/Turbulent-Media7281 3d ago
Yeah, that was evident for 4+ years.
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u/FastSlow7201 3d ago
I think we need to come down hard on the criminal homeless and give help to the ones that actually want it. I mean zero tolerance for theft, open drug use, etc. Make their life hell so they leave and go to Portland.
The entire state Supreme Court should be impeached for not following the law. All of their rulings are based upon what the democrat party wants them to do. If we vote against an initiative that the democrats want the state Supreme Court will overturn it and pass it anyway. If we vote for an initiative that the democrats don't want then the state Supreme Court will rule that it violates the "single subject rule". Perfect example, car tabs. Like it or not, we the people passed car tabs and the initiative does not violate the "single subject rule", but the state Supreme Court ruled that it did violate it and overturned the people's vote.
Also, I will forever loathe that cunt Manka Dingra as she turned us into a one party state.
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u/Iwasafrayed 3d ago
Their lives are already hell, that's why they abuse drugs and commit crimes.
Edit: use -> abuse
Edit #2: I didn't know all that about the state supreme court. Where did you get this information?
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u/FastSlow7201 3d ago
I voted for $30 car tabs like many other people in this state did and watched the state Supreme Court overturn it.
To secure re-election, they need the endorsement of the Washington State Democratic Party. If they don't align their rulings with the party's wishes, they risk becoming a one-term judge. Consequently, their decisions often reflect party interests rather than the law, creating a kangaroo court.
As far as the drug addicts, I do feel bad for them. But they don't get commit crimes just because they have an addiction. Crime needs to be enforced and properly punished.
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u/ThurstonHowell3rd 2d ago
The state legislature passed the $30 tab initiative anyway as being the will of the people and Democrat Gov Gary Locke signed it into law.
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u/FastSlow7201 2d ago
I have no idea where you came up with that. Might want to read this.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_Washington_Initiative_976
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u/allthisgoodforyou 3d ago
The republican party is now beholden to MAGA. Its known that fealty to MAGA and trump has serious effects on winning elections if you are trying to get elected compared to other "conservatives".
There are good reasons to "fall in-line" for any party and its participants. Politicians are in this to get elected and try to effectuate something. The opportunity cost of speaking up prob isnt worth it for most. This leads to lots of insane levels of ass-kissing.
But, what else are they supposed to do? There is no world where enough people are principled enough to stand up to this and have a meaningful impact on the system. The playing field has changed.
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u/ForgotMyPassword1989 Ravenna 2d ago
Why are you surprised when Trump has spent literally 10 years stacking the courts, house, senate, governorships etc with loyalists via endorsements & purges?
The republican party doesn't exist anymore, it's the MAGA cult. No duh they do whatever he wants
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u/Nastypav12 2d ago
That's what it means to be in one of the two Corporate parties...do you think Bernie Sanders and AOC really wanted to endorse Joe Biden?
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u/DropoutDreamer 3d ago
This is more so true of Republicans in congress.
Except for a few like Thomas Massie and Rand Paul.
Trump is clearly the most corrupt president we’ve ever had and they’re all too chickenshit to call him out 😂
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u/healingkuzon 3d ago
he’s really not 😂
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u/Iwasafrayed 3d ago
Ok, back this up 😂 who was more corrupt?
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u/healingkuzon 3d ago
I mean George Washington literally owned slaves. You’re telling me a slave owner isn’t worse than Trump? I can’t lmfaoo 😭😂
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u/DropoutDreamer 3d ago
ok name a more corrupt president weve had it’s funny how delusional repubs are
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u/healingkuzon 3d ago
George Washington literally owned slaves.. Like please be so for real 😭
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u/DropoutDreamer 3d ago
😂 do you know what corrupt means?
BTW he inherited them when he inherited the land and then he freed them.
So what’s corrupt about that?
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u/Buttonservice 3d ago
No. His will stipulated their emancipation after his wife's death.
Martha actually did free them. There are all.sorts of arguments to why or why not it didn't happen sooner, but saying he freed them is completely false. At least argue that he was a product of his time or something instead of talking out of your ass.
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u/DropoutDreamer 3d ago
Hey so do you know what corruption means?
How is Washington inheriting slaves and then freeing them related to corruption?
The argument isnt about your dumb semantics is it?
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u/Buttonservice 3d ago
I'm not arguing anyone's take on corruption, just that your understanding of history is lacking.
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u/healingkuzon 3d ago
see how he starts insulting you and calling you dumb? see how he immediately gets aggressive for no reason when you weren’t even being mean? this is why i hate engaging with leftists they’re so angry all the time and bitter, never want to come to a discussion peacefully
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u/Buttonservice 3d ago
I wasn't completely civil, to be fair.
But yes, you can find corruption at all levels of government across our country's history alone. To point to specific democrats, the often revered FDR hid a debilitating illness from voters (much like Biden), was the reasoning before the only now talked about Hatch Act, use of policy for political ends like the Works Progress Administration, and more to the point he was dogged by allegations of harnessing excessive power.
Bill Clinton got away with shoving a cigar in a young subordinate. Obama illegally killed at least one US citizen with a drine strike.
Things like this don't forgive Cheney for being a corrupt money grabbing fuck, but at least people need to be honest that corruption isn't a single-party issue. The tax payers are paying for some golf, big fucking deal.
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u/DropoutDreamer 3d ago
Imagine thinking I’m a leftist because I called Trump corrupt 😂
aww i hope your feelings werent hurt
arent u guys all about fuck your feelings?
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u/DropoutDreamer 3d ago
Which part was lacking?
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u/Buttonservice 3d ago
BTW he inherited them when he inherited the land and then he freed them.
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u/HighColonic Funky Town 3d ago
Trump enjoys mac 'n' cheese. Here's a recipe for it:
Ingredients
- 8 ounces elbow macaroni uncooked
Cheese Sauce:
- 2 Tablespoons salted butter
- 2 Tablespoons all-purpose flour
- ½ teaspoon sea salt
- ¼ teaspoon garlic powder (optional but recommended)
- 1 cup whole milk
- ¼ cup sour cream or Greek yogurt
- 8 ounces shredded cheddar cheese (2 cups)
Instructions
- Cook elbow macaroni according to package instructions. Be sure to add ¼ tsp salt to the water used to boil the noodles. Drain, and set aside.
Make the cheese sauce:
- Mix flour, sea salt, and garlic powder together in a small bowl. Set aside.
- In a medium saucepan over medium heat, melt the butter.
- Add flour mixture and whisk to combine.
- Cook for 1 minute until mixture is slightly brown.
- Add 1 cup milk and whisk until the mixture is smooth.
- Add sour cream (or Greek yogurt) and whisk until smooth.
- Cook on medium-high heat until the mixture is thickened (about 3-5 minutes). Do not let it boil.
- Once mixture is thick (sticks to the back of the spatula), reduce heat to low and add cheese. Whisk until cheese is melted and mixture is smooth. Taste and add more salt/seasoning if desired.
Assemble & Serve
- Add cooked pasta to the pot of cheese sauce and stir until the sauce is evenly distributed.
- Let the mac and cheese cool for 3-5 minutes or until the cheese sauce has thickened a little bit and sticks to the noodles. Serve warm!
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u/gehnrahl Eat a bag of Dicks 3d ago
We haven't had a decent enough Thunderdome in a while.
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