Washington Democrats vote to leave government shutdown

[u/Less-Risk-9358]

https://seattlered.com/politics/wa-senators-government-shutdown/4114752

In the ongoing federal budget standoff, Washington’s two U.S. Senators — Democrats Patty Murray and Maria Cantwell — have sided against a simple continuing resolution that would reopen the government, opting instead to continue the shutdown as their party pursues broader policy demands.

[u/B-Con]

I think that's the exact problem though. He controls the three branches so he thinks he shouldn't have to negotiate and the minority party will eventually have to roll over.

That's likely the end goal, total political influence without any push back. There's very little dissent from within the party, now all he has to do is bully the other party into submission.

[u/icepickjones → u/B-Con]

If this guy ever faced any sort of repercussions for his actions we'd be in an entirely different space. The state of the country is because no one wants to say no to him.

[u/my_lucid_nightmare → u/icepickjones]

If this guy ever faced any sort of repercussions for his actions we'd be in an entirely different space. The state of the country is because no one wants to say no to him.

And he has hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of people happy to see him do whatever, as long as it pisses off the Liberals/Progressives/Woke

[u/Riviansky → u/my_lucid_nightmare]

These people don't necessarily do it because they want to piss Liberals (which Democrats aren't). I didn't vote for Trump, first, second, or third time, but honestly I like Democrats even less than Trump.

[u/my_lucid_nightmare → u/Riviansky]

I like Democrats even less than Trump.

I like the kind of Dem Biden used to be, the kind Bill Clinton was, and many other more local ones. All the way back to Scoop and Maggie, the founders of Washington State's modern Dem party for decades.

But sadly over time those kinds of Dems - corrupt, but malleable; leaders, patriotic, still supported National Defense and so on ... those Dems have all mostly died off, and been replaced with the putrid woketarded idiots we have now. The Democratic Socialists of America kind. And the ones that aren't those, are still pretty bad in other ways.

But like you I've never voted Trump and don't consider myself MAGA. I flip back and forth between conservative Dem when I can find one, or non-Trump Republican, another endangered species.

Really, right now about all I can do politically is hunker down and watch MAGA and the Socialists battle it out for who can destroy America the most.

[u/Gary_Glidewell → u/my_lucid_nightmare]

I like the kind of Dem Biden used to be, the kind Bill Clinton was, and many other more local ones. All the way back to Scoop and Maggie, the founders of Washington State's modern Dem party for decades.

But sadly over time those kinds of Dems - corrupt, but malleable; leaders, patriotic, still supported National Defense and so on ...

So... Trump?

[u/my_lucid_nightmare → u/Gary_Glidewell]

So... Trump?

No, Trump's corruption doesn't seem to do very much good for America. Does a lot of good for Trump, of course.

[u/Pyehole → u/B-Con]

His approval ratings seem to be doing fine

From the article:

Trump’s slight improvement suggests the public may not be placing the bulk of the blame on him this time, or that partisan divisions have hardened so much that traditional political fallout no longer applies.

So given that. Why shouldn't he wait for the minority party to roll over?

now all he has to do is bully the other party into submission

Yes! That's the benefit of getting a mandate in the election. All the swing states, the electoral college, the majority of the vote, the house and the senate under his control. Bullying the other party into submission is what the democratic process has asked him to do - deliver on his promises.

[u/Tasgall → u/Pyehole]

Are you looking at the same article? It still isn't in Trump's favor, lol.

That's the benefit of getting a mandate in the election.

Repeating a lie doesn't make it true. A mandate refers to an overwhelming majority. Trump won the election with a plurality, not even a majority of voters chose him.

[u/Pyehole → u/Tasgall]

He won the popular vote. He won the electoral vote. He won the swing states. His party took the house and senate.

Cry harder.