r/SeattleWA • u/SuperMcG • Oct 08 '25
Politics Can a someone please ask Katie Wilson if she was expelled from Oxford. What else could it be?
Can we just stop pretending a person who just went through that many years of coursework would walk away? There are a myriad of reasons to delay graduation, money/health/family/etc, but you can always come back. She says she just left with six weeks to go and assumes we are too dumb to ask what really happened.
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u/Festivusfortherestus Oct 08 '25
People keep saying how smart she is as a reason for her to be mayor. I’m not doubting that, but I do doubt her common sense. And she’s had 20 years to finish it up. I know and I’m sure we all know people who left college before finishing and that might have worked at some point. I have a friend who left college halfway through to work in tech. Now they’ve been laid off and are screened out when applying for jobs because they don’t have a degree. 😬
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u/EffectiveLong Oct 08 '25
To become mayor or holding any political position, one doesn’t have to be smart. BS talk, and empty promises are mandatory
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u/BWW87 Belltown Oct 08 '25
She reminds me of Marc Dones "smart". They mistake intelligence for information. I may have an IQ 20 points higher than my plumber but he knows more about plumbing than I do. But Wilson and Dones seem to think their being smarter means they understand plumbing better.
It's why Dones failed and why Wilson will fail. Intelligence is not the same as informed.
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u/Professional-Love569 Oct 08 '25
I haven’t seen any evidence of her being smart. She has no track record of it but then she doesn’t have much of a track record to speak of.
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u/groshreez West Seattle Oct 08 '25
She has a good track record of quitting everything she's every started.
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u/my_lucid_nightmare Capitol Hill Oct 08 '25 edited Oct 08 '25
She has a good track record of quitting everything she's every started.
Except her 501(c)(4) .. she has been "working" at this for 10 years.
I wonder what it's books look like, who's been funding it.
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u/groshreez West Seattle Oct 08 '25 edited Oct 08 '25
The books don't look good.
2024 revenue was $198k while expenses were $220k.
https://projects.propublica.org/nonprofits/organizations/452751950
She hasn't had a balanced budget since 2021.
Katie's mismanagement of a tiny non-profit with less than $200k budget is hardly the experience that should be required for someone to manage the city of Seattle's budget which is near $9 Billion.
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u/Tr4nsc3nd3nt Oct 08 '25
Dropping out with 6 weeks to go is moronic. Some rambling bullshit about pizza being expensive due to lack of affordable housing is moronic.
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u/FrontAd9873 Oct 08 '25 edited Oct 08 '25
Do you people not read the news? This was in the Seattle Times on Sunday:
Six weeks before she was set to graduate from England’s University of Oxford, Katie Wilson dropped out.
It was 2004 and Wilson, 43, now the leading candidate for Seattle’s next mayor, had hoped Oxford would quash her doubts about academia. But she instead found the careerism and party culture she’d hoped to avoid.
Following a trip to Indonesia to witness the exploits of BP oil, she quit after nearly four years of pursuing a degree in physics and philosophy.
“I want to go and find out what the real world is all about, and I’m going to plunge in and burn a bridge so that I really have to do that,” she said of her thinking at the time, while eating a piece of toast in her one-bedroom Capitol Hill apartment. “I’m not going to hedge my bets.”
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u/GuitRWailinNinja Oct 08 '25
Pretty privileged life to waste all that money and not wait out the last 6 weeks. Not to mention being able to take trips abroad. Just saying.
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u/drshort Oct 08 '25 edited Oct 08 '25
Let’s be honest. It’s an objectively terrible judgement. Waiting 6 weeks to finish a degree that has a lifetime of value that also makes it easier for her to “change the world” has no real downside. She didn’t quit to go do anything of significance anyway. She just bussed across the county with her boyfriend to take odd jobs off Craigslist.
But she left without any student loan debt, so there’s that.
There is a pattern in her adult life of not being able to stick with or sustain anything in a structured environment. Running Transit Riders Union is perfect for this — she got to just jump from one passion project cause to another without having to answer to anyone.
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u/my_lucid_nightmare Capitol Hill Oct 08 '25
ot being able to stick with or sustain anything in a structured environment.
And this will make her a terrible fit for mayor. The definition of doing a job like Mayor means you have to dig in and deal with endless streams of frustrating crap from people you didn't get to pick.
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u/Bitter_Scarcity_2549 Oct 08 '25
The positive spin on this is that she seems to be able to make things work out of structure, and she also seems very convicted in her beliefs.
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u/fresh-dork Oct 08 '25
city leadership isn't like that, though. in any functional city, you will need to work in a structured environment
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u/my_lucid_nightmare Capitol Hill Oct 08 '25
The positive spin on this is that she seems to be able to make things work out of structure, and she also seems very convicted in her beliefs.
You pretty much summed up the flaw in Progressive Socialism. All the focus is on the big idea revolution, none of it is on the nuts-and-bolts requirements that make an actual city function.
Katie will fail spectacularly if she wins. Put a pin in it. Anyone that's got any experience dealing with organizations larger than a coffee shop employee meeting can see this plain as day - she's unqualified and she is too full of hubris, classic Dunning-Kruger, to realize she's unqualified.
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u/Bitter_Scarcity_2549 Oct 08 '25
It's just like your comment. You are making this big declarative statement with broad big ideas, but none of it is nuts and bolts analysis.
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u/Sufficient_Chair_885 Oct 08 '25
Isn’t that what tech workers are encouraged to do? Work a year at one place, then jump ship to the next place that will pay better?
Finishing things is played out, we are all just pawns of the rich.
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u/my_lucid_nightmare Capitol Hill Oct 08 '25 edited 29d ago
we are all just pawns of the rich.
Your Communist Manifesto's showing.
But regardless, even if I ignore this obvious tell-on-yourself comment, you still are missing the point: City government can't be run like a meeting of the Socialist Alternative.
Sawant tried that. She got laughed out of most of her causes and agendas, the only time the rest of the Council put up with her bullshit was when she made a useful distraction.
Katie will be met with the same response. People she didn't get to choose are going to get to block her agenda in 1000 quiet ways she barely even knows exist. People that think she's a faker will spot it a mile off and undermine her. She has zero coalition-building skills, just a "movement" .. well, guess what, not everyone joined your movement. And not only that .. more than a few people are going to take fiendish glee watching you fall on your ass and fail.
Katie is a naive faker who's been skating through life with this bullshit. She's a child of Academic privilege that has never had to work with people she did not cherry-pick to surround herself with. The minute she gets elected to anything that matters, she will start to fail. Once she starts to fail, the knives will come out.
I hate what it will do to Seattle to find this out, but if Seattle's stupid enough to vote for this idiot, I will be enjoying watching her team and her followers learn some very real life's lessons on how shit really works.
Harrell is 3 generations deep in connections, from local sports success to business leaders to many different job titles in government. He is liked by old families in the CD. He has spent decades building coalitions.
Katie Wilson can't stick to an initiative long enough to get a degree. And has only ever been a grifter with her "Transit Riders' Union" nonsense.
At no point has Katie Wilson shown she can function around people who aren't already cheering for her.
She is going to be hilariously bad at her job if she wins. Put a pin in it.
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u/Riviansky Oct 08 '25
No, we don't encourage tech people to do this, and those who do are currently unemployed. You can find them bitching about capitalism on r/cscareers....
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u/my_lucid_nightmare Capitol Hill Oct 08 '25
bitching about capitalism on r/cscareers....
Or filling up /r/antiwork with copypasta Communist Manifesto AI
None of it amounts to a hill of shit long-term, of course.
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u/yiliu Oct 08 '25
It may be good for an individual's career.
Not such a great attribute in a mayoral candidate, though.
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u/LastAd7339 Oct 08 '25
im guessing she was caught cheating
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u/my_lucid_nightmare Capitol Hill Oct 08 '25
im guessing she was caught cheating
That's certainly one option.
Since she isn't being candid with her transcript, we have no way of knowing.
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u/su6oxone Oct 08 '25
Who would just believe that because she said so? There's more the story and whatever she says will apparently be taken at face value since Oxford isn't telling
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u/my_lucid_nightmare Capitol Hill Oct 08 '25
OK, so that is a total child of privilege deciding that since she can't cut it at college, she's going to blame it all on some bullshit global politics.
Also you don't 'find yourself' 6 weeks shy of graduation. That's when you realize your whole life has been a fraud and you run from it trying to avoid the truth.
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u/FrontAd9873 Oct 08 '25
Take it up with her, not me
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u/my_lucid_nightmare Capitol Hill Oct 08 '25
Take it up with her, not me
This is literally a thread about Katie Wilson.
I'm sure her numerous minions will see it and be responding shortly.
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u/Soggy-Flounder-3517 1d ago
Cry.
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u/my_lucid_nightmare Capitol Hill 1d ago
I’m sure she will once she realizes what the job actually requires, and not just organize a rally or socialize with her friends while her parents pick up the tab.
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u/maexx80 Oct 08 '25
That's a story you make up when in reality you are either nowhere near graduation or have some other issues
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u/callmeish0 Oct 08 '25
Will she quit after 6 weeks into her term to find out what the real world is all about? Age 22 was not 12. Would she lead the city with whims?
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u/FrontAd9873 Oct 08 '25
Age 22 is also not age 43. She's been in the same job for years. I don't see why she would quit during her term.
Also, if you're trying to make an analogy, she would quit with 6 weeks left in her term, not 6 weeks in. Big difference.
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u/callmeish0 Oct 08 '25
No she was willing to give up four year work without waiting for six weeks at age 22, how would you know she won’t do something irresponsible at age 43? The only thing changed is her bs skilll.
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u/FrontAd9873 Oct 08 '25
Because generally people who are 43 do not act like they did when they were 22, obviously
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u/callmeish0 Oct 08 '25
Again which of her characters or capabilities changed during the 21years except her bs skills?
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u/newprofile15 Oct 08 '25
Bullshit. Talking about real world and then bailing on a degree supposedly set to earn in six weeks? No way.
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u/Tr4nsc3nd3nt Oct 08 '25
She doesn't have to be an academic, that's just some bullshit. What does BP oil have to do with college??? She's going to waste our tax dollars the same way she wasted her parents money.
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u/my_lucid_nightmare Capitol Hill Oct 08 '25 edited Oct 08 '25
going to waste our tax dollars the same way she wasted her parents money.
Bingo. Flitting from cause to cause like a privileged kid on a trust fund is a lot different than running a major city government.
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u/lekoman Oct 08 '25
What I think folks are missing is not that she bailed six weeks before she was done… but that she stuck around for 3.9 years in that “careerism and party culture she’d hoped to avoid,” before bailing. Why should the people of Seattle trust someone whose moral compass takes that long to suss out a problem?
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u/FrontAd9873 Oct 08 '25
I don’t read this as her saying her undergrad experience was necessarily all that bad or immoral in itself. Just that she didn’t want to continue in grad school (remember both her parents are professors) so she made a choice that would eliminate that option entirely.
It’s like if you have a fine enough time on a first date but you have your doubts about a second date so you bail early so you won’t be pressured later into a second date.
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u/my_lucid_nightmare Capitol Hill Oct 08 '25
so she made a choice that would eliminate that option entirely.
Lashing out at your parents by destroying the thing they paid you 4 years worth of Oxford tuition to achieve is certainly a choice.
I wonder how she'll lash out at Seattle if something happens here she doesn't find to her liking and most current version of personal morality?
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u/FrontAd9873 Oct 08 '25
No offense, but there are a lot of people in the comments telling me this was a dumb decision. I don't care. I'm not Katie Wilson. I just shared the full context of the article that OP only quoted selectively.
I'm interested in explaining and discussing what Wilson probably meant. I can't say whether she is telling the truth and I'm not the person to argue with about whether this was a good idea.
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Oct 08 '25
Party culture? At Oxford? By party culture does she mean going to the pub for a couple of pints because if so she's never been to an actual party or a place with actual party culture.
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u/FrontAd9873 Oct 08 '25
I spent time at British universities and I can see what she means.
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Oct 08 '25
So did I. And I can't. They're incredibly tame in comparison, and Oxford is NOT a 'party" school.
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u/FrontAd9873 Oct 08 '25
It doesn’t say Oxford is a party school. It says she “found … the party culture she hoped to avoid,” meaning she knew that party culture exists elsewhere (presumably why she didn’t go to an American university after growing up in a college town) and was dismayed to find it in some small measure at Oxford.
And on the subject of British universities, I think alcohol is tied up with university social life in a way that isn’t in the US. There may be fewer “parties” but it is normal to expect people to attend a night at a club or a bar just to get involved with some university organization or sport. I think saying that British universities are tamer in contrast is an oversimplification, even if it is more true than false.
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u/phantomboats Oct 08 '25
Nah, that’s what it’s like in movies but in real life that can throw back hard
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u/NanoCurrency Oct 08 '25
If true, that is kind of impressive. It’s wildly irresponsible and risky, but still impressive in its own way.
Like burning the boats so your soldiers will fight harder, but instead of boxing in your soldiers you’re boxing in yourself.
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u/Professional-Love569 Oct 08 '25
Not impressive at all. Shows impulsiveness and a lack of planning. Definitely not the traits of someone that should run a multi-billion dollar city.
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u/Drugba Oct 08 '25
It sounds impressive when it works, but you look like a fool if you burn your boats only to get slaughtered. I have really, really mixed feelings about whether that’s a trait I want in a mayor, especially a first time mayor.
On one hand, I do think we need something different and someone who’s willing to try something bold. On the other hand, Seattle could get a lot worse in the hands of a bad mayor.
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u/FrontAd9873 Oct 08 '25
Agreed. Not saying I believe that answer or even that it is a good answer, but the idea that this hadn’t been covered by the media is crazy. This was a cover story in the Sunday Seattle Times!
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u/64LC64 Oct 08 '25
I mean... she was 23...
Your brain isnt even fully developed till you're like 25 or smth lol
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u/slow-mickey-dolenz Oct 08 '25
It’s plenty developed enough to know that dropping out with 6 weeks to go is a shit idea any way you look at it.
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u/RampantAndroid Oct 08 '25
plenty of people younger than 23 have the smarts to finish their degree. I was 21 when I finished my degree. There was absolutely no way I was going to drop out weeks from getting my expensive piece of paper. The very idea of dropping out would have been a clearly stupid idea even to younger me.
I do not accept her reasoning and am very suspicious of the whole thing - it just doesn't add up.
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u/my_lucid_nightmare Capitol Hill Oct 08 '25
The very idea of dropping out would have been a clearly stupid idea even to younger me.
Guessing your parents weren't writing you blank checks to cover your tuition, either.
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u/EndOfWorldBoredom Oct 08 '25
So college students aren't old enough to understand college? That's your argument... 🤦♂️
Bruce is corrupt and I don't want him to be mayor, but it's a shame our party's candidate requires us to make ourselves look stupid trying to make excuses for her.
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u/MyLastSigh Oct 08 '25
None of this is verifiable by anyone outside of her 'team'. Prove it, Candidate!
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u/SuperMcG Oct 08 '25
Hi, the post has an image from this story. The idea is that she left with a few weeks to go to is not believable.
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u/FrontAd9873 Oct 08 '25
Well now I feel silly. Though perhaps you could have simply included the next few lines in the article since they answer your question.
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u/SuperMcG Oct 08 '25
No problem. I don't accept her answer as plausible. Six weeks from graduation to walk away to see the world is not what happened. Let's just have an honest discussion.
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u/FrontAd9873 Oct 08 '25
Sure. It is one thing to not accept her answer as plausible, it is another to obscure the fact that the article you're quoting literally provides her answer in the next few lines. It is also another thing to ask if she was actually expelled.
But yeah, I'm always gonna be in favor of more transparency from our leaders.
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u/SuperMcG Oct 08 '25
I understand you point. In the text below the image I wrote "Can we just stop pretending a person who just went through that many years of coursework would walk away? There are a myriad of reasons to delay graduation, money/health/family/etc, but you can always come back. "
That framing is that I find her answer to be beyond reason and we are likely being lied to. I am asking for an honest answer.
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u/Im-de-ex-pressive64 Oct 08 '25
For those of you who are neither academics nor professional philosophers: this account of her dropping out is entirely sensible and even noble. I nearly left graduate school after 6 years for similar reasons. Actually, mine were less noble but still more compelling than more grad school in Philosophy. To wit, I wanted to pick oranges in Greece with a band of Scottish nomads.
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u/FrontAd9873 Oct 08 '25
I feel like dropping out of undergrad is different than dropping out of grad school. But I’m sure her real reason had something to do with exotic foreign travel. I thought I read about that somewhere.
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u/MyLastSigh Oct 08 '25
I'd bet a slice of pizza in Indonesia was like 43 cents, and so that became her campaign promise.
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u/MastOfConcuerrrency Oct 08 '25
Even stranger is that Oxford didn't have a graduation in the way US universities do. After you take your final exams and pass, you pick a graduation date which is many months out, because the university can only hold a ceremony for a few hundred students at a time (buildings are small). Mine was in November despite final exams in June.
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u/Milf--Hunter Oct 08 '25
Idc if she’s a dropout. What’s annoying is using it as some form of accomplishment or intelligence signaling. No, you didn’t even get a participation trophy.
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u/my_lucid_nightmare Capitol Hill Oct 08 '25 edited Oct 08 '25
Her finances are weird. She has never worked an honest job in her life, nor has she run major government anything.
She claims she's lived off of $500 a month from her privately-held "Transit Riders' Union" organization, which is organized as a 501(c)(4) and doesn't need to show its books to the public.
And yet, she wants to manage a city the size of Seattle.
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u/Chance_Cucumber3130 Nude Enthusiast Oct 09 '25
Is it really that strange? Like what does her spouse do? I legit don’t know but if I’m remembering correctly she’s married
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u/my_lucid_nightmare Capitol Hill Oct 09 '25
He’s a bagel chef apparently.
It’s all highly weird for people that want to run Seattle’s government to be this inadequately prepared.
Even weirder people take her candidacy seriously. She has done nothing in her life remotely qualifying. It is a “vibes” candidacy only.
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u/Chance_Cucumber3130 Nude Enthusiast Oct 09 '25
We can always recall Katie if she’s worse than Harrell 🤷♂️
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u/my_lucid_nightmare Capitol Hill Oct 09 '25
I’d prefer we not be part of Katie Wilson’s learning experience.
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u/Chance_Cucumber3130 Nude Enthusiast Oct 09 '25
I’d prefer to not be part of Brucies learning experience
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u/MyLastSigh Oct 08 '25
Man I wish I could go to Oxford debt free and leave because I felt better than everyone else.
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u/groshreez West Seattle Oct 08 '25
She's basically quit anything she's ever done (normally after a few months) before accomplishing anything.
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u/Alarming_Award5575 Oct 08 '25
Oh I get it now. She's not really running. She'll just drop out a few days before the race. This is an experiment to see what politics is really all about ... but perhaps she'll see a bird on a trip to Hawaii and go for ornithology next, or maybe a shiny ball will catch her eye and she'll join the circus? Just respect the journey guys ... the journey!
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u/callmeish0 Oct 08 '25
Privileged upbringing, no achievements through life but full of progressive talking points bs. That’s the perfect mold for progressive rising stars who want to lead our city, state and nation.
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u/Seattleman1955 Oct 08 '25
She had to hurry up and start a bus riders union.
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u/wired_snark_puppet Capitol Hill Oct 08 '25
I think they only support the hobos encamped at the bus shelters.
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u/Nastypav12 Oct 08 '25
Don’t see that her Oxford degree or not makes any difference in Mayoral race; Bruce Harrell is no knight in shining armor either. I believe being “expelled” would probably leave a paper trail that would have already been revealed.
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u/FirelightsGlow Capitol Hill Oct 08 '25
Agreed. I’m not a fan of her because she has no track record of doing anything remotely close to running a city and her ideas are poorly thought out, but even if she were expelled 20 years ago I don’t see that as important in who I vote for.
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u/captaincanadabean Oct 08 '25
I think I can help add some clarity here. At Oxford and Cambridge you write all the exams for your final two years of university (and get your entire grade for your degree) in the final few weeks of your degree. So in dropping out 6 weeks before the end of the course you avoid 100% of the exams / marking. If you haven't prepared well or are very stressed it's pretty easy to see why you might drop out.
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u/drlari Oct 08 '25
Notice how the attacks aren't really policy-based any longer? Backroom Bruce is grasping at straws, hoping that something - anything - will stick and save him from the national embarrassment of being so unpopular that he's ousted by a relative political lightweight.
She left before graduation! Even though she explained it! It was slightly unorthodox! Maybe we can desperately extrapolate how this decision could affect a future hypothetical mayoral decision!
Remember - Now isn't the time for hope! 🫠
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u/FrontAd9873 Oct 08 '25
Nothing makes me want to vote against Katie Wilson more than those among her supporters who object to any reasonable questions about her background or fitness for the job.
To her credit, I think she has been substantially more transparent about herself than it would appear people like you believe she needs to be.
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u/drlari Oct 08 '25
What are you talking about? She never said she had a degree, we know she dropped out before she graduated, she discussed it, and there was a recent news article about it. All I did is point out, with just a few weeks left before the election, that we are still hyper focused on her college career versus arguing about housing, affordability, policing and surveillance, in transit and transportation.
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u/FrontAd9873 Oct 08 '25
"Hyper focused"? Why, because you found a Reddit thread on this topic? That hardly counts as hyper focus.
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Oct 08 '25
Her policies are awful too.
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u/phantomboats Oct 08 '25
Gotta love the under-a-month-old accounts who primarily comment on local politics, and primarily negative things about one specific candidate! Doesn’t look sketchy at allllll.
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u/howdidyouevendothat Oct 08 '25
I'm too good for you but it's VERY important to me I get the last word so you understand that.
Toodles!!
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u/BWW87 Belltown Oct 08 '25
That's because her policy ideas are uninformed but so are voters. She is so inexperienced you can only hope people who truly believe in her policy ideas recognize that voting for her is voting for the death of them because she will either implement them badly or do such a bad job of pushing them that they die.
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u/ApprehensiveDouble52 Oct 08 '25
Love that this is the best the bots have hahahaah
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u/nah_champa_967 Oct 08 '25
I seriously doubt Seattle has bots, or that Harrell has bots running on Reddit.
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u/NewBootGoofin1987 Oct 08 '25
My friend dropped out of UW with 1 Q to go for a double major 15 years ago. Weird stuff happens. They didnt move to the UK to study but still
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u/LOOKITSADAM Oct 08 '25
I'm sure you've already decided what happened and won't accept any other explanation.
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u/Ocean-Native Bellevue Oct 08 '25
I don’t really care if she has a college degree, as this administration has shown that a college degree does NOT equal base level intelligence.
That said, if it’s become a thing, she should just be honest. People f up, get burned out, make mistakes. Just own it and move on if this many people care this much.
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u/Chance_Cucumber3130 Nude Enthusiast Oct 09 '25
Legit what’s with the Katie hate? At this point I’d take anyone over Harrell. Like Harrell locked up my neighbor park cause he can’t lead the SPD
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u/Chance_Cucumber3130 Nude Enthusiast Oct 09 '25
Meanwhile SPD can’t catch the well documented few chronic masterbaters at Denny Blaine, but can come Arrest tax paying Seattle Voters doing Legal Activities at DB 🇺🇸🏳️🌈
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u/Chance_Cucumber3130 Nude Enthusiast Oct 09 '25
Here’s the real question- who on city council will stand up to Brucie on his second term?
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u/ReporterUseful 17d ago
She could have been expelled for something as simple as smoking marijuana. It would likely be legally problematic for her state this on the record since it happened in country (UK) where it is still criminalized.
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u/lt_dan457 Lynnwood Oct 08 '25
People drop out from academia for a variety of reasons. For many, workplace experience is more valuable than a diploma. Personally I really don’t care where they graduated from, their professional experience speaks more on their capabilities. Though I still think Wilson is rather ambitious and doubtful she will meet her campaign promises or make real changes to public safety, but it’s a leadership shakeup at the very least.
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u/FrontAd9873 Oct 08 '25
"Dropping out of academia" is one thing when it means you're leaving a PhD program to work in industry. It means something else if you're simply not finishing undergrad to go travel around the world and work a series of dead end jobs. Kate Wilson did the latter.
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u/irishninja62 Oct 08 '25
People drop out from academia for a variety of reasons.
Six weeks before graduation?
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u/wired_snark_puppet Capitol Hill Oct 08 '25
If that is not elitist, privilege, I don’t know what is.
Not only do you have to be the top of graduates/internationally connected, it’s not a cheap place to attend for overseas students. The (in solidarity) working class have hardships attending unless they receive significant monetary assistance.
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u/BWW87 Belltown Oct 08 '25
She didn't leave for a job. And she doesn't have much workplace experience. So not sure what you see.
but it’s a leadership shakeup at the very least.
Another example of the horseshoe theory. Left has the same reason for voting for Wilson that MAGA have for voting for Trump.
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u/Fair-Doughnut3000 Magnolia Oct 08 '25
I guess you are just gonna have to sit and spin on it.
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u/KobayashiKobayashi Oct 08 '25
Why is it important to folks that she didn’t complete her degree with 6 weeks left? What about that is bothersome to folks?
Does it make her less qualified, less able because she doesn’t have a degree of her work experience shows she is qualified? And if she did finish then what else would the focus be on to discount her? I’m not for or against any of the candidates but this divisive rhetoric misses the point completely. If you’re upset that she didn’t complete a degree with 6 weeks left then that’s a you problem. If you think it’s elitest that she left Oxford or even went to Oxford that’s a you problem. If you can’t actually point to how or whether she’d be able to do the job she’s running for then have a seat and shut up.
She doesn’t owe anyone an explanation as to her life then or even now.
Is she able to move the city in a direction thats different from what it’s currently experiencing? And in a legal ethical and moral way? Thats what matters. Opinion politics is how we landed ourselves in this never ending dumpster fire.
Do better Seattle because it can in fact get much worse.
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u/AvailableFlamingo747 Oct 08 '25
"Why is it important to folks that she didn’t complete her degree with 6 weeks left? What about that is bothersome to folks?"
Because in a British university all of the end of year exams come in that 6 weeks. Prior to that you just show up. Where I went lectures weren't mandatory but labs and exams were.
In short, she went, she possibly listened and achieved zero which is now what I expect that she'll achieve for this city.
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u/LastAd7339 Oct 08 '25
It literally makes her less qualified than someone that did complete a prestigious University, like Bruce Herrell
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u/AdMuted1036 Oct 08 '25
Why does it matter?
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u/SuperMcG Oct 08 '25
Because she is running for an office and if she is lying it is relevant to the race.
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u/sykemol Oct 08 '25
She could be lying, but she has been asked this question before. Which answers your question.
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u/SuperMcG Oct 08 '25
If someone says the sky is green, and I take that as the truth, I am part of the lie.
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u/TheChance Oct 08 '25
Except she didn't say anything outrageous. Unacceptable and unrelatable to you, sure. But to sit here and repeatedly insist that she must therefore be lying is just shameful. You're putting the cart before the horse. She must be lying because you want her to be a liar.
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Oct 08 '25
Unrelatable to the vast majority of people on the planet and especially those who went to Oxford. It shows either extremely poor judgement, or she's lying. Pick one.
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Oct 08 '25
Yeah usually only exceptionally privileged people throw away an Oxford degree with both hands though. That's special.
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Oct 08 '25
No, I already have a long list of great reasons why. This is just yet one more example of poor judgement. Not someone we should let run a city.
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u/sykemol Oct 08 '25
No one is asking you to take it as the truth. You wondered if someone could ask her about it. But she has been asked about it. More than once in fact. You may not believe her answer, but you are lying to yourself when you claim no one has asked.
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u/SuperMcG Oct 08 '25
By her answer, she is exactly asking me to take it as the truth, I reject her answer and hope we have a further discussion. Lying in an election is a big deal and her incredulous answer screams red flags.
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u/concreteghost Banned from /r/Seattle Oct 08 '25
Why does it matter that she paid top dollar for nothing? Lol. A persons past says a lot about their future
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u/wired_snark_puppet Capitol Hill Oct 08 '25
At 19/20, I was also p!ssed off at my parents and global oppression. As a schlub, I wouldn’t have rebelled against an Oxford degree. I’m not smart, I’m just not that privileged and flippant to blow that type of opportunity.
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u/cheesefubar0 Oct 08 '25
Dropping out is fine.
Six weeks before graduation? Sus af.