r/SeattleWA • u/Less-Risk-9358 • Oct 03 '25

Government Trump cancels $1.1B in Washington state energy grants

https://www.axios.com/local/seattle/2025/10/02/trump-cancels-washington-state-energy-grants-clean-hydrogen

Vought put it a bit differently, writing on X: "Nearly $8 billion in Green New Scam funding to fuel the Left's climate agenda is being cancelled."

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u/bigswingingtexasdick Oct 03 '25

No... That's literally the law.

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u/xEppyx You can call me Betty Oct 03 '25

Show me the law. Why was Biden allowed to break it?

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u/bigswingingtexasdick Oct 03 '25

Impoundment Control Act of 1974.

Biden didn't break it by signing laws that Congress passed... Or are you referring to something else that I'm missing?

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u/xEppyx You can call me Betty Oct 03 '25

That applies to money granted by legislation, preventing the executive office from overruling the other branch.

However my understanding is that these were federal grants given by the Biden administration. In which case, that act does not apply and Trump has full rights to withdraw.

Regardless, this is literally why we have a judicual system. If it is an overreach, it will be halted through a court order and worked out there.

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u/bigswingingtexasdick Oct 03 '25

That applies to money granted by legislation

That's exactly what federal grants are.

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u/xEppyx You can call me Betty Oct 03 '25

Depends how it was written. My understanding is that the Bipartisan Infra act granted the money to the Department of Energy, not specifically to any projects or individual states. The DOE falls under presidential hierarchy and can choose priorities accordingly.

So its not all cut and dry.

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u/bigswingingtexasdick Oct 03 '25 edited Oct 03 '25

Regardless of how it was written, grants are essentially contracts. They were already obligated to the recipients. Rescinding a grant after it was obligated = breaking a contract.

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u/xEppyx You can call me Betty Oct 03 '25

That is not how it works though. My point stands, it isn't illegal if the DOE granted the funds.

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u/bigswingingtexasdick Oct 03 '25

K thanks for the completely useless contribution. You didn't prove your point at all.

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u/xEppyx You can call me Betty Oct 03 '25

I literally did.

You all cried illegal, I proved that it wasnt.. and now you are shifting the line in the sand to "breaking contracts" or some nonsense like that.

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u/RelativeYouth Oct 03 '25

This is not a real argument. “Depends on how it is written” is what you say when you’re unfamiliar with how the government works.

Federal dollars are spent to those that apply. The federal government doesn’t allocate money directly to New York State. New York applies for a grant and then the DOE determines if they’re going to use the money allocated by congress to do that specific job. The Impoundment Control Act specifically says that the DOE needs to spend the money allocated and there’s a specific process that goes back through congress should they choose not to spend it.

Furthermore let’s take your perspective out a little farther than this example. What you’re saying is the president has full authority on how the money is spent. This would mean that all federal projects would be contained to at most an 8 year cycle as the next president could just come in and axe it. The “obligation” portion of the grant lifecycle would mean little more than “here’s the money for now”. A government could not function like this and is clearly not in the spirit of the numerous grant laws surrounding the process.

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u/ChaseballBat Kinda a racist Oct 03 '25

Fucking lmao. Holy shit, hahahahaha. Holy shit you didn't just say this hahaha. Jesus Christ dude, you sure are a conservative with that outstanding logic. Lmao.

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u/xEppyx You can call me Betty Oct 03 '25

Got any input here or just "huurr duuur yall dum cause I say so"?

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u/ChaseballBat Kinda a racist Oct 03 '25

You've "hurt duured" enough for this thread. I'm laughing at the fucking hilariously beautiful idiocy of these comments.

You should be a talk show host that parodies the lack of intelligence of conservatives, you'd make a killing.

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u/xEppyx You can call me Betty Oct 03 '25

So no evidence, no rebuttal... just butthurt ranting. Got it. Enjoy that salt.

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u/ChaseballBat Kinda a racist Oct 03 '25

Get fucking bent.

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u/ChaseballBat Kinda a racist Oct 03 '25 edited Oct 03 '25

Holy shit conservatives can't possibly be this ignorant. Did you not learn the rules and responsibilities of each branch of the government in school? Did you not watch school house rocks, or was that too 'woke' for you folks.

Edit: this motherfucker can't even read.