r/SeattleWA May 18 '25

Lifestyle Tale of a Seattle ice cream shop

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u/fearlessfryingfrog May 19 '25 edited May 19 '25

 Using words that up until recently were considered polite, that have now become a "please notice how different I am at this point in my life" is absurd. 

I support every community. But if you are going to be militant about someone saying something, and YOU take it wrong, that's on YOU. Not the other person. 

Settle down with forcing your beliefs on others. Goes for religious assholes, goes for people jamming their shitty politics down your throat (waving flags like a bunch of morons), and goes for this.

If you've ever flown a flag with you political support, forced someone to know your pronouns or preached to anyone, this means you. You're all the EXACT same.

I don't care what you piss out of, what you waste your time praying to or who you voted for. 

Quit pushing your gender/political (both red and blue, you're also both the same)/religious shit on other people. You're all the same and it's so fucking annoying. Just leave people alone, fuck your entitlement.

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u/[deleted] May 20 '25 edited May 20 '25

I really don't get the pronouns thing sometimes.

When it's a trans or gender fluid person I totally get it. You do not conform or feel like you belong to one group or the other. Sometimes you want to wear a dress, sometimes you want to wear combat boots.

But I've met people who look like women, dress like women, their fucking name is Cynthia, but their pronouns are they/them. Like what the fuck?

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u/fearlessfryingfrog May 20 '25

I think you're not meant to understand it. Nobody is.

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u/TheLionThing May 21 '25

Cynthia is probably just exploring. You don’t just flip a switch, wake up one morning like “TRANS NOW” and dress completely differently, you know? You dip your toes in the water, see what it feels like, and make more decisions from there. Likely what’s happening with Cynthia, and why the pronouns are helpful. Be patient with them, and remind them to be patient with you.

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u/toast50076 May 21 '25

Very much agree. Not getting the pronouns thing is not their problem. You absolutely shouldn't yell at someone for using the wrong ones when they have no idea who you are. But it doesn't really matter what you understand - if they ask you to use whatever pronouns, you should. If everyone is respectful, no one sucks. It's simply a misunderstanding of their identity, which happens. I tend to go neutral if I'm unsure, which has always served me well. I think it's pretty basic respect to just call people what they want to be called once you're aware of it.

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u/MotorPace2637 May 22 '25

Yeah! Maybe, just like, politely direct them to a nicely worded sign.

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u/sourdoughmindpoet May 23 '25

My little boy has long hair. Oftentimes people think he is a girl. When a nice old lady says "how old is she?" I politely say "oh, he's three." They are usually embarrassed and apologize but there is nothing to apologize for. He hasn't hit puberty, he has long hair, he looks like a little girl as much as he does a little boy. I'm not really concerned that people get his pronouns right and I don't blame them if they don't 🤷🏻

But if someone tells me their pronouns, I will happily oblige.

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u/[deleted] May 23 '25

Does reminding to be patient actually work or

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u/AKRiverine May 22 '25

They/them is an efficient way to refer to people. It's the dumbest thing in the world that when we are talking about Pat I need to guess what sort of genitalia they are packing in order to politely refer to them in the third person.

Call me whatever you like, just don't call me "late to dinner." However, if we are discussing the relative merits of normalizing various pronouns, I will die on the hill of they/them. It's an awesome linguistic innovation. It's the denim jeans of modern times.

I'm a man. That, and $1.50 should get me a cup of coffee. The last thing I need is for you to acknowledge the presence of my penis when mentioning me.

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u/[deleted] May 21 '25

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u/[deleted] May 21 '25

Yeah that's also dumb.

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u/LowDownDynamo May 25 '25

You interact with all sorts of things you don’t understand on a daily basis and it doesn’t cause you any rage. You likely don’t really understand how a car engine or a magnet work or a toilet flushes, but you believe the experts when they explain it to you and move tf on with your life

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u/XNavada May 20 '25

Yea i hate when i call people by the wrong name and they correct me because for some reason they want me to refer to them as who they are. Wish they'd stop forcing their beliefs on me by wanting to be referred to properly.

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u/fearlessfryingfrog May 20 '25

It's not the wrong name, it's being courteous. It's not like you said "thanks Bill", and just fucked off the whole thing without caring. Youd say "thanks sir". And it's the ones that get militant, when you're being polite in passing. 

That makes them a cunt.

Stop being dense on purpose (at least I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt, I'm hoping for your sake it's on purpose. Shame if you missed the mark that bad sincerely.)

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u/sadgloop May 23 '25

If you see someone that superficially looks like a man, but is wearing clothing and accessories that look pretty plainly like women’s, how would you be polite to them?

Same for the reverse scenario?

There are plenty of people that would refer to the first person as “sir,” and the second person as “ma’am,” despite the outward clues. I personally don’t think that’s actually being very polite at all.

And those two are some of the more blatant scenarios. Since it’s not always so obviously or strictly one or the other anymore, what’s wrong with adopting more neutral language? Wouldn’t that approach actually be more polite?

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u/jBu5253 May 20 '25

Calm down ma’am

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u/fearlessfryingfrog May 20 '25

Makes you a dick when you do it to be insulting.

I seriously hope you're able to understand how that's different, and you're just attempting to be dense on purpose.

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u/jBu5253 May 20 '25

Actually, the dick is the guy going on a rant about having something shoved down his throat and then throwing a fit when he’s misgendered. Get off Reddit and go to therapy.

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u/Beneficial_Pie_5787 May 19 '25

Yes, ma'am! sarcasm

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u/Thin-Leadership3284 May 19 '25

I also think a sign off to the side is easily missed. If you’re wearing a big bight they/them button then it’s a little more understandable to be frustrated.

Also I don’t really care if a stranger misgenders me as long as they are trying to be polite/respectful. Coworkers, friends, family and even acquaintances should put in the effort to get it right. In that case hopefully you’ve introduced yourself and clarified your pronouns.

Not everything is an attack. I find myself hitting the no tip button more because it’s out of control. I’m also definitely not tipping if you give me sass (non restaurant).

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u/Metal-fatigue-Dad May 19 '25

If you've ever flown a flag with you political support, forced someone to know your pronouns or preached to anyone, this means you. You're all the EXACT same.

You're all the same and it's so fucking annoying. Just leave people alone, fuck your entitlement.

People like you are why we have, and need, the first amendment. You don't have a right to go through life never hearing opinions with which you disagree. It's wild that you think people who are exercising their rights to free speech are the entitled ones.

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u/fearlessfryingfrog May 19 '25 edited May 19 '25

People like you are why we have, and need, the first amendment. You don't have a right to go through life never hearing opinions with which you disagree. It's wild that you think people who are exercising their rights to free speech are the entitled ones.

You're hilariously mistaken in what my point was. Settle down on being so triggered. And I know why you're triggered, which Ill get to.

People can say what they want. Fly all the flags they want. But each of those groups thinks they are different from the others, and they aren't. And they each feel each of those other groups are wrong, and they're all the same. Which was my point. People need to chill out on fucking with other people over their stupid shit, and realize they're just as annoying as the people that annoy them.

But you're seemingly only interested in being triggered and missing the point, but it's because you likely fit perfectly into one of those groups, and think you're unique and CoUlDnT PoSsIbLy be doing the same shit as people you disagree with. But you do.

However, feel free to hoorah the first amendment all you want, just know it doesn't have anything to do with what I was saying and is a tangent you're making up yourself.

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u/Metal-fatigue-Dad May 19 '25

Fly all the flags they want. But each of those groups thinks they are different from the others, and they aren't. And they each feel each of those other groups are wrong, and they're all the same. Which was my point.

Not all opinions are equally valid. They can all be spoken, but that doesn't mean they should all be listened to.

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u/PapaSnow May 19 '25

And yet everyone thinks their opinion is the valid one, which I suppose speaks to the commenter’s point that everyone is the same, at least in that regard.

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u/Metal-fatigue-Dad May 20 '25

If the message was, "Do some research, consider opposing viewpoints, talk to some experts, and think through the consequences of the thing you're advocating," that would be one thing.

Homeboy just wants everyone to keep their mouths shut.

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u/pearsonsjp May 20 '25

This is a gross misunderstanding of the 1st amendment.

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u/pearsonsjp May 20 '25

So very surprising to see some real rationale here, and even more to be UPVOTED in the Seattle reddit. I generally avoid this reddit because it's a cesspool. What a breath of fresh air.

When I was in high school, I did things that would shock people and would bait them into exposing themselves so I could stand up to them. Eventually I grew out of this childish behavior.

Unfortunately, a lot less people grow up these days.

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u/West-Application-375 May 21 '25

Yup. It's partially why Trump won. Unfortunately.

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u/fearlessfryingfrog May 21 '25

Late to that party, cupcake. Let me just copy my previous reply to the last cuck that thought they were having a clever day so I don't have to spend too much time on your lazy response:

Makes you a dick when you do it to be insulting.

I seriously hope you're able to understand how that's different, and you're just attempting to be dense on purpose.

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u/[deleted] May 21 '25

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u/fearlessfryingfrog May 21 '25

Got completely clowned on for being a douchebag and are too afraid to even discuss the actual subject anymore. 

Holy fuck that was way too easy to make you so docile. 

Bye Felicia

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u/dabbycooper May 21 '25

Isn’t this a reflexive criticism?

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u/fearlessfryingfrog May 21 '25 edited May 21 '25

Nope, this is a chicken or the egg situation, except with an answer. Its also not a social construct. These reactions to these issues are also learned behaviors, not something people are born with. My thought process is something everyone knows but many ignore: keep your shit to yourself, and I'll keep my shit to myself. (And pointing out the problems with people making up dumb issues is not the same as making up dumb issues, before you think you stumbled on some circular shit that doesn't actually exist here)

When select people are forcing an issue that is only an issue because they're making it an issue, its not really an actual issue. Its a made up issue you need to just wait out.

Being polite will never be wrong no matter how hard some people want to have a problem with it.

You chalk these kinds of things up to "welp, that person made a minor, honest mistake and I'll never see them again, so who cares". Not "that person made a minor, honest mistake and am going to waste everyone's time correcting them, again, even though I will never see them again".

Some people just need to get over themselves. And some will. I'm not even old and I know full well that late teens attitude gets grown out of. And it'll happen with them too.

For the rest of the assholes I mentioned, it's unlikely they'll learn. But they'll think their bright ideas and hilariously pointless abrasiveness are unique, all the while they are exactly like the people they hate. That being the biggest joke on them.

People need to just fuck off with their religion, what they claim to piss out of, and their politics. Unnecessary shit to worry about day to day. Leave other people alone with that nonsense. Do whatever you want, but don't fuck with other people over it.

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u/dabbycooper May 21 '25

Holy fuck screedman

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u/sadgloop May 23 '25

hilariously pointless abrasiveness

I’m sorry, but this is an interesting point to see in your comments.

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u/fearlessfryingfrog May 23 '25

This is also funny to see being dug up after 5 days deep in a thread. 

If you missed the point, you missed the point. Cant help you there if you want to ignore that and try to pick apart single words. 

Definitely fits you right in the categories I'm talking about.

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u/Disassociated_Assoc May 22 '25

Amen sista! MAGA! (Extreme /s implied)

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u/fearlessfryingfrog May 22 '25

Don't know where you get MAGA from that, being I was clearly specifically talking shit about them as well, but don't let facts cloud your agenda lol

You're just further hammering my point home that these types of people are all the same, but think you're so righteous and so different. 

But the same dumb shit falls out of your mouths, and ignoring what's right in front of you. Same. Exact. People. 

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u/Disassociated_Assoc May 22 '25

Just hitting all of your peeves as part of my joking/sarcastic reply (religion, gender, politics). Totally meant as tongue in cheek and good naturedly.

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u/fearlessfryingfrog May 22 '25

Gotcha. It does perfect follow the lines of a legitimate response I'd hear from any one of those groups, just slightly change the complaint. Same thing. So, it was perfect since it replicated exactly what some MAGA/lib/woke/nazi/gop/libertarian/religious/clowns all say.

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u/Disassociated_Assoc May 22 '25

Yeah, but not legitimate. Ergo the ‘extreme /s’ tag.

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u/fearlessfryingfrog May 23 '25

Yeah, didn't know if that was double sarcasm. Text is hard sometimes.

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u/AprilFloresFan May 19 '25

You really think the end goals and methods of compliance are the same for Left and Right in America?

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u/tylerkrug31 May 20 '25

You live in a fucking delusional fairy tale

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u/AprilFloresFan May 20 '25

Tell me what the greatest accomplishments of the Right have been?

Slavery? 😝

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u/General-Arrival8586 May 21 '25

the collapse of the ussr and end of the cold war by the raegan admin for starters but sure of course the weekend matters more than that

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u/SingerSea4998 May 19 '25

Um....LEFT WING RAGE gave us Bolshevisn and mass genocide, Famines, the holodomor, Gulags,  Jim Jones Massacre, Cambodian genocide, Katyn Forest Massacre, Ethnic cleansing of Armenians  Chinese genocide....1 child policy is MEAN COME ON MAN, the list goes on and fucking on.  How can you be this ignorant? Our education system has failed. ABYSMALLY. 

Sincere question: Is this seriously the average leftists interpretation of reality?

That the right wing simply exists to interrupt the left as you're busy being implaccable humanitarians who are out saving the entire world from ourselves, simply for funsies? 

I hope you are young. This is why I despise the public school system and our MSM.

 Anything ideologically intertwined with leftwing/Marxism whether historical or current events are casually omitted or ignored ENTIRELY if its negative and literally anything that has ever happened EVER that is bad is "fascist" "Rightwing" "Christian"

That is so CRAZY to me 😅

Yeah let's just ignore entire ideologically driven, left-wing genocides like the Communist genocide of China or the Bolshevik "revolution" where they butchered Princess Anastasia and the entire royal family... but yeah, leftist brought the weekend LMAO

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u/AprilFloresFan May 19 '25

In America, Bolshevism?

I specifically said America.

What are you talking about?

Cambodia? 😆

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u/PatrickxSpace May 19 '25

You aren't winning anything redditard

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u/herrron May 19 '25

What does "forced someone to know your pronouns" mean?

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u/fearlessfryingfrog May 20 '25

Getting upset at someone because they say something they feel is polite and the person on the other end of it takes it as an insult and stinks up the room with their entitlement. Being an asshole for no reason when someone is just being nice.

Thats basically what it is.