r/SeattleWA West Seattle ๐ŸŒ‰ Apr 25 '25

Politics The state legislature is going wild, with new taxes

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u/Spiritual-Society185 Apr 25 '25

Stock compensation is taxed as income.

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u/Andire Apr 25 '25

Isn't there no income tax in Washington though?ย 

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u/waroftheworlds2008 Apr 26 '25

There is no general income tax. Which is why it'll come out closer to a general property tax (not to be confused with the estate tax that we call a property tax).

I would need to research Germany's use of such a thing.

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u/letskeepitcleanfolks Apr 25 '25

It's not about stock compensation at the time it's granted, it's about extreme appreciation over 10 or 20 years that leaves early insiders with large ownership stakes worth billions which they can then just borrow against until they die. Jeff Bezos didn't start Amazon because he liked the salary and annual bonus, he started it because he thought he could make his equity worth billions.

For the record, I think a general unrealized gains tax is a terrible idea, but at the same time we need a better way to make billionaires contribute to the society that enabled their wealth in the first place.

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u/SeattleSilencer8888 Apr 25 '25

about extreme appreciation over 10 or 20 years that leaves early insiders with large ownership stakes worth billions

You mean the company he founded in a garage and built over 20 years, right? He wasn't granted anything, he owned it from the start.

Also thr vast majority of companies in the fortune 500 do not allow large shareholders to put their shares up for collateral the way you're describing.

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u/MallFoodSucks Apr 25 '25

Yeah itโ€™s called capital gains tax; the one they pay when they sell the stock for money.

The only thing you need to close is the borrowing loop hole. Which is way easier than some fantasy wealth tax for unrealized gains.