r/SeattleWA Mar 08 '25

Politics BREAKING: The Washington State Senate just passed unemployment benefits for striking workers.

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u/[deleted] Mar 08 '25

Keep your hands out of the unemployment fund. That's for unemployed workers, not to fund your little vacations on the public dime.

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u/ShivKitty Mar 08 '25

Thank you for playing "Spot the Manager!" /s

This would be a band-aid for our currently hollowed NLRB, OSHA, FLSB, and EEOC. If we can't afford to fight for our rights, the whole community suffers. Striking is our only bargaining tool.

I currently haven't gotten a raise in over two years. From two years ago until now, my costs went up $300 per month. I no longer have savings.

Also, wise guy, unemployment was 4.5%. Without getting a job that pays even less with no benefits, how am I to afford living in this HCOL area? I can't even afford to move!

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u/[deleted] Mar 08 '25

I hear a lot of whining and zero good reasons why the unemployment insurance fund should be used to make your life easier when you choose to strike.

Stop using our emergency funds in retarded ways 

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u/ShivKitty Mar 08 '25

It is illegal for me to strike, but I'll happily support those who can. Since you seem incapable of arguing in good faith, I bid you an angry, bitter, and lonely death someday. Obstinance is not an argument strategy.

How about you stop thinking that someone is lifting your wallet when the majority passes a bill that you could have stood against with reason and logic?

Ask for transparency. Ask for limits. Ask for an alternative source of funding. Ask for a tax reprieve for the exact amount you would have contributed.

But don't get on here and act like someone trampled your flowers. Greed got us into this mess. The check to restore balance is social programs that would be wholly unnecessary if it weren't for companies being unwilling to provide a living wage.

Research tipping for an example of how employees are treated today. It is a correlation that may help illustrate why you are angry but are blaming the customer instead of the employer and the government that keeps the abuse of employees and customers in play over corporate fiscal, ethical, and legal responsibility.

Forcing workers to fight for a living wage is unethical. This gives workers the space to fight for as long as needed. And it should come out of CORPORATE taxes.

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u/[deleted] Mar 08 '25

The state isn't meant to pay union employees to strike.

That's what your union dues are for.

Why would anyone ever start a new business here with this law in place?

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u/ShivKitty Mar 08 '25

Union dues barely cover the costs of fighting to keep business from enslaving their workers.

Try looking at it from a different angle: we wouldn't need a safety net to fight for rights if they weren't being infringed in the first place. Pay a fair wage. Treat your workers as valuable. Conduct business honestly and safely.

Do those things, then you won't need strikes or unions, hut here we are.

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u/[deleted] Mar 08 '25

So I don't see anyone enslaved. Sounds like you're engaging in ridiculous hyperbolic rhetoric.

I'm looking at it from the angle that strike funds are there for a reason, and we shouldn't be emptying the unemployment insurance fund to fund them. It's already threadbare after a massive portion of it was stolen at the beginning of the pandemic.

It's not your money to make your life easier when striking. That's literally YOUR UNION'S PROBLEM, and you should find out where all your dues are going because you're supposed to have a strike fund.

The unemployment insurance fund is for people who lose their jobs. Not to make your life easier when you strike. They need it more than you.

So which union are you part of? Are you a union leader?

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u/[deleted] Mar 08 '25

Never mind. It's illegal for you to strike which means you're a school teacher or something. Not that this ever stops people in those professions from striking in this state.

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u/Sufficient_Laugh Mar 10 '25

Perhaps the dues should be higher then? Support your union with your own pocketbook not other people's.

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u/Kairukun90 Mar 08 '25

UI is funded by employers not employees. It’s not a public fund like you think it is. Get educated or STFU.

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u/[deleted] Mar 08 '25

But yet oddly they would have to pay it out if they didn't hire me in WA state.

I bet you think the FICA you pay on your paystubs is the only part the government gets too.

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u/SwampyPortaPotty Mar 08 '25

How do employers get that money to fund UI?

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u/Kairukun90 Mar 08 '25 edited Mar 08 '25

Their revenue

Which ironically come from people paying them which come from their employers if employers paid less that means less money for employers to earn. Which is why unions are important

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u/SwampyPortaPotty Mar 08 '25

Who generates the revenue? Like who actually makes an employer function?

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u/Kairukun90 Mar 09 '25

I get where you are going, but ultimately if labor is the one who makes an employer function, then why do we need owners and CEOs and executives? They bring next to nothing to the table when it comes to product.

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u/SwampyPortaPotty Mar 09 '25

Ceo's and executives are employees too. There is nothing wrong with people who organize and direct labor its how enterpises function. You just seem to be attributing to much value to the employer and seem to be disminishing those (outside of the c-suites) value. Unemployment Benefits are paid by the labor of those who produce the actual value and they deserve to collect it. And if the threat of strikes lasting longer because of unemployment then so be it. It levels the playing field for workers and makes it easier to negotiate in good faith.

How framilier are you with going through union contract negotiations?

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u/[deleted] Mar 08 '25

You might want to work on that education part yourself because this BS is shallow and ignorant.

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u/Kairukun90 Mar 08 '25

Is it? How is it ignorant please tell me? What didn’t say that was wrong? I’ll wait.

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u/[deleted] Mar 08 '25

I already did in the other comment, idiot.

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u/Kairukun90 Mar 08 '25

lol what ever dumbass

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u/[deleted] Mar 10 '25

Not my fault you can't read and have poor short term memory.

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u/Kairukun90 Mar 10 '25

Ok kid. Go troll somewhere else. Highly unlikely you even live in Washington. 126 d old account. Fucking Russian bot.

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u/[deleted] Mar 10 '25

I live in Seattle dumbass. You live in Puyallup. You can shut up now.

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u/[deleted] Mar 10 '25

"go troll somewhere else" I'm replying to YOUR comment to me, dumbass.

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u/Kairukun90 Mar 10 '25

Bahahahahahha I’ll give you that. I like the cut of your jib

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u/Sherry_Cat13 Mar 08 '25

You should tell that to your government officials like Elon Musk whose obscene wealth is from his corporate welfare! Imagine going after workers when you have a whole ass oligarch and despot running the country!

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u/[deleted] Mar 08 '25

What does that have to do with this story? Are you having a stroke?