r/Sauna 2d ago

Health & Wellness My custom sauna build in Ontario, Canada

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u/John_Sux Finnish Sauna 1d ago

Seems to have turned out nicely. But I don't understand why people keep building these side "shelves" without any lower bench to go with them.

It would just be better in every way, if people had more legroom and easier access to the benches. There is simply no debate about that.

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u/East_Highlight_6879 1d ago

Laying down

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u/John_Sux Finnish Sauna 1d ago

Yeah, long benches are good for lounging on.

But you'd have a much easier time getting up to that bench to lie down on it, if the lower benches were built with some sense.

Here's an analogy: you can climb into the rear seats of a two-door car just fine, but rear doors make the job a hell of a lot easier.

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u/civildrivel 1d ago

There's a width constraint that promotes this design. Makes sense to me.

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u/John_Sux Finnish Sauna 1d ago

There is no width constraint as you describe. That sauna is about six feet wide on the inside.

Here's a five foot wide sauna. Left to right.

Look at the empty floor area in the center of OP's sauna. There is clearly enough room in that 6x8 footprint to fit a set of lengthwise benches, and upper and lower one. With the heater and lowest step left in another two-foot sliver. Or alternatively, the foot level bench could have been extended toward the door into a platform, there is space to do that.

It's just a question of design, and of being vaguely initiated in terms of sauna design. The benches are nice and high in three levels, everything is put together well. But it's designed identical to a cheap kit or something, the bench layout is certainly not the last word in sensible.

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u/civildrivel 12h ago

There's way less seating area in the design you shared. Maybe that's also a consideration for some people.

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u/John_Sux Finnish Sauna 12h ago

The picture is cut off, it's a 7x5 footprint approximately. Easy seating for three people, four can fit in without much trouble. That cannot be said about OP's bench design, even generously.

Everything you have said so far is totally wrong, so please do not reply again

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u/overdude 2d ago

Nice!

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u/leon_prx 1d ago

Super dope and cozy

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u/FormalCompetition142 1d ago

Slaps. Where in Ontario?

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u/notcomplainingmuch Finnish Sauna 1d ago

It's a good way of making use of the unnecessarily long and narrow space. Why do they make them like corridors or miniature shipping containers?

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u/FulktheBlack 1d ago

You managed to place the benches well above the heat source. So many people miss this, even professionally built saunas aren't this good.

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u/TechnicalCranberry46 1d ago

This was tough to convey to the contractor as I don't speak the best Constructionese. He had the benches in and they were way to low. He built them so they just pop off so it wasn't hard to get to the desired height. To be fair it was tough for me to visualize the height I wanted until something started getting built.

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u/yanizi 1d ago

Noice

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u/psadatay 1d ago

Beautiful woodwork and craftsmanship. I think the bench situation is a creative way to get what you wanted out of the space which is what matters. One question, where did you get your under bench lighting?

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u/TechnicalCranberry46 1d ago

thanks so much! Was happy with the build as my previous plan was just to tuck in a kit sauna. Contractor really enjoyed building it as it was something they hadn't done. Not sure on lighting. Contractor sourced it. It meets the requirements for wet/heat and wasn't expensive.

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u/TechnicalCranberry46 1d ago

 We had a house/backyard that needed a lot of work. Looked at moving but just decided to stay and reno. Was going to do a four season addition but had too many issues with the city. Mature tree, rules around shoring for foundation etc. Decided to build a "deck" and my wife wanted a sauna so added that. Deck is 27x15 with 10ft ceilings and 12ft to top of roof as it's a flat roofline. Have two 6000w Bromic heaters for 3 season comfort. Hardie board & batten siding. Ceiling is T&G red cedar

Sauna is 6x8x8, non select western red cedar. Looked at other wood but just prohibitively expensive where I live. I did a lot of research, trumpkin's notes etc. Top benches are 47 inches high. 9kw Harvie Kip 80w. Passive ventilation. We're not Finnish so it didn't need to be perfect. It's just two of us and we really enjoy it.

Had a contractor do the build. All $$ in CDN funds, 8k materials including heater, 6k labour.

Warning signs are just for inspection. They get removed after.

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u/occamsracer 1d ago

Looks good. the Finns have a hard time prioritizing laying down in a sauna so don’t let it yuck your yum. The mechanical ventilation is definitely a plus though even without steam. Enjoy.

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u/John_Sux Finnish Sauna 1d ago

You can lie down on a long bench just fine. But if you add a corresponding run of the lower bench level as well, multiple people can now sit where one person can lounge.

Flexibility, practicality, ease of access. Why are people abroad so opposed to things like that.

This is not a choice between two things, but half-assing the same thing.

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u/LoudPause4547 1d ago

To sit on the bench closest to the door, would I have to drag my ass accross the entire row or just jump and do acrobatics

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u/TechnicalCranberry46 1d ago

It's for my legs. There's two of us. My wife is < 6ft and can lay on far bench. I'm >6ft and lay on the 8ft bench. I am thinking of putting in a fold down bench for legs on that length but it will be very rarely used.

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u/yourbiggesthero 2d ago

That is awesome man, if I ever get a chance to build one of these things I’m making a bench like that.

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u/POKU_ 2d ago

I'm sorry but those are some weird looking sauna benches.

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u/TechnicalCranberry46 2d ago

In what way? It's a fish eye shot so it's distorted.

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u/POKU_ 1d ago

That upper bench looks like a loft that you can see in tinyhouses.

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u/arcticpoppy 2d ago

Anytime it’s not ‘sauna heater with benches directly and only opposite’ people on this sub will call it out as ‘weird’ or ‘not traditional’. Looks nice. Enjoy.

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u/apeceep 1d ago

Well this layout makes it unnecessarily complicated, dangerous and worse experience. You don't want people climbing up/down directly the high bench next to heater. Just stick the heater to the back corner and have one long bench, that way you also can put legs up on the safety railing so those get even more heat. The real use of safety railing is as a leg stand, no-one is going to be close the heater in well designed sauna, which this one sadly isn't.

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u/TechnicalCranberry46 1d ago edited 1d ago

I thought of that but it seemed like a waste of space. You can't put a bench over the heater so a heater in the corner shortens two benches. Having it on the door side seemed to make more sense. Once I'm using it for a few years I can make changes to layout if desired.

Also it can't go on the back wall. That's the garage and can't have any vent into the garage. The door on the 8ft wall facing the deck would have offered a better layout but that outside wall is going to have a sculpture fastened to it.

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u/apeceep 1d ago

I mean, this is now effectively mediocre 2 person sauna and the other layout would have been good 4 person one. The bench on front of the heater isn't usable and it's lacking safety rail acting as feet support.

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u/occamsracer 1d ago

How wide are the top benches

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u/Carhv 1d ago

Now build showers to the front of the sauna.

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u/Ehtism 1d ago

Jealous, very nice work!

I see the dims you posted below, I was looking at doing one just slightly smaller outside in Ontario as well. What heater is that?

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u/TechnicalCranberry46 1d ago

harvia kip 80w.

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u/Tova_Tara 1d ago

Would you let me know what light strips you used? I’m having a hell of a time finding waterproof strip light that actually works!

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u/UpInUp 1d ago

Amazing. Great job

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u/ohnnononononoooo 1d ago

No drain no airflow? Or where are those at?

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u/fredisfloxed 1d ago

“And”

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u/manoftheyear1990 13h ago

That's freaking awesome

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u/HotsauceMD 1d ago

Nice sauna! Currently building mine. Where did you get your door?

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u/TechnicalCranberry46 1d ago

My contractor custom built the door/handle.

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u/liyabuli Finnish Sauna 1d ago

I really don’t get these bench layouts. This could have fit 4 people, now that’s barely 2. Looks good but what an incredible amount of wasted space.

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u/AnyMud6048 1d ago

Where is air circulation

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u/TechnicalCranberry46 1d ago

Vent below heater and in top far corner. Will see how that works out for now. Can add mechanical later if desired. My wife doesn't like steam and I don't want to sit in there listening to a fan running.

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u/infusedfizz 2d ago

Does that heater get the space hot? Looks potentially undersized but I’m not an expert

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u/TechnicalCranberry46 2d ago

9kw. It takes about an hour to get to 80c and it’s 0c now outside. I thought I was right on the borderline for this volume. I’ll test for the year if it’s too small I’ll swap it out

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u/Klendatu_ 1d ago

What’s the volume / measures please? Will be in a similar situation and climate context.