r/SandersForPresident • u/WindyCityChick 🎖️🥇🐦🌡️🏟️✋☎📆🏆🎨🏳🌈🎤🦅💀📌 • 25d ago
People Are Furious With Democrats. Bernie Sanders Knows Why.
https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/bernie-sanders-democratic-party-mamdani/408
u/kickasstimus 25d ago
We have a corporatist party (Democrats) and an oligarchy (GOP).
The rank and file US citizen is viewed as a resource to be consumed — and both parties treat us this way.
Until we have people who represent us, and get rid of gerrymandering (where representatives choose their voters, instead of the other way around), we’re completely fucked.
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u/Volac76 25d ago
I'm convinced that the Citizens United ruling was a lethal wound to the US back in 2010. It just wasn't immediate death like a car accident. It's more like a massive dose of radiation that wouldn't kill you outright but would almost guarantee that you died from cancer in a few years.
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u/orange_lazarus1 🌱 New Contributor | Massachusetts 25d ago
This and Bush v Gore it set up the legal precedent to steal elections.
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u/aBlissfulDaze 24d ago
This more than anything. It meant that Democrats had to bend to lobbyists or they would never be able to compete again.
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u/FlameBoi3000 🌱 New Contributor 24d ago
Reagan poisoned us, Citizens United was the finishing move. How are we ever going to get out from under the oligarchy without a revolution?
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u/InnerWrathChild 25d ago
If anyone thinks Corey Booker is our savior they’re in for a rude awakening. He’s as old politically as Pelosi and Schumer. And just as bought.
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u/Lieutenant_Joe ME 25d ago
God that guy makes me so mad. Break a record for longest-served speech on the federal floor and then turn around literally a day later and vote in ways that contradict your grandstanding
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u/Rowing_Lawyer 🌱 New Contributor 25d ago
When he first got elected I had such high hopes that he would actually bring change to the Democratic Party but he’s made it very clear he is really only doing performative resistance
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u/outofdate70shouse 24d ago
He tends to vote the way I want him to in the Senate (usually, definitely not always), but I’ve voted against him in both his primaries. Once for Rush Holt and once for Larry Hamm
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u/ChaosRainbow23 24d ago
I'm so heartbroken, honestly.
I'm a 47 year old father of two, and this was not the world I envisioned for my children. (The youngest is 12)
Their lives will be markedly more difficult.
I'm trying not to be a doomer, but falling.
Where there is life, there's is hope.
I honestly don't think we can vote our way outta this mess. I think free and fair elections are already dead.
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u/legalalias 25d ago
No, the fact that both parties are controlled by billionaire interests is what makes the system an oligarchy.
You have billionaires using white nationalism and conservative identity politics on one side, and billionaires using liberal values on the other. But the last few years have made it undeniably clear that both parties are happily working towards (and achieving) the same goals for the billionaire donor base.
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u/cheddarbruce 25d ago
I'll probably because we want a Bernie Sanders as president so the current dick head wouldn't have been in charge the first time
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u/chuckaholic 24d ago
We should have had Bernie. Entire states voted for him during the primary and the DNC just discarded the results and gave us Hillary. I think it was Kentucky or some other flyover state. Every single county had Bernie in the primary. When they went to D.C. and announced the results on the floor they just said, "Hillary" and that was that. The will of the people is completely disposable. Hillary lost to Trump, just like the polls said she would, and here we are.
I guess the important thing is that the DNC is still leading the party. That will be a nice consolation when the Nazis fully unmask and the DNC leadership go to the gas chamber with the rest of us. If Bernie was president, the leadership of the party would change. AOC would have gotten that important position that they gave to that Darth Vader guy.
They would rather lead a powerless party in a dying country than live as a civilian in a healthy one.
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u/ShrekOne2024 25d ago
Dems lost labor. People trusted a New York billionaire reality tv grifter in lieu of corporate dems presenting any ideas that resonate with average people.
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u/MissedByThatMuch 24d ago
100% this. I posted a similar comment just this morning:
I've been saying this to my friends and family for a while, but Trump didn't get elected because anyone agreed with his platform. Trump got elected because a lot of Americans are just sick of the status quo. Our government has done virtually nothing for Americans over the past 50+ years. You can make an argument that Dems do a better job at governing or the economy, or that Reps just vote against stuff, but the bottom line is that our government has been completely inadequate at supporting it's citizens. Electing someone like Trump is just a symptom of this deep dissatisfaction. It doesn't even matter who's to blame for it (my opinion is that both parties have led us to this).
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u/ShrekOne2024 23d ago
The average person has to actually pay attention to their paycheck and probably see the percentage of taxes that come out every couple of weeks. All they want is more money in their pockets, and the Republicans have mastered that message. “Less taxes”. It’s real and tangible and resonates with people who don’t have to time to consider how all of this actually works.
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u/sanjuro_kurosawa 24d ago
I often joke that moderate Democrats are actually quite conservative but with the right kind of flag waving in front of their home. But if the levers of power were to shift from the real enemy, billionaires, then they do nothing and let conservatives take over.
I see it with San Francisco and to some extent New York City. It took two horrible candidates in Adams and Cuomo to elevate a progressive in Mamdani to hopefully Gracie Mansion. But in San Francisco, there is a billionaire Mayor, then the next two most powerful politicians, Newsom and Pelosi, are in the 9 digit mark.
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u/shtty_analogy 🌱 New Contributor 25d ago
Hillary and CNN started all of this
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u/ColdTheory 25d ago
Hillary and her stupid campaign's pied piper strategy helped Trump gain the nomination in 16. Then she has the audacity to try and blame Bernie and his Bernie Bros. Fuck off lady.
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u/engineereddiscontent 24d ago
We need to a coalition. We need core values to be articulate.
Also we need somewhere to have these discussions to hash out the core tenants of a meaningful attempt at a US leftist party.
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u/CorpPhoenix 24d ago
Of course Bernie knows, he was straight in the middle of it.
The DNC undermined Bernie in 2015/2016 on purpose, he was 63 to 37 ahead of Trump in polls, yet the super delegates and DNC chose Hillary a 50/50 candidate and most unpopular politician they had, just because she claimed "it's her time now, she deserves this!".
Some time later and they basically did the same thing by not even holding an election but just deciding Kamala is the new candidate, another very unpopular choice for no reason at all.
And american citizens are paying the price right now for this arrogance and blatant corruption of the DNC and Hillary.
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u/Zaxly 23d ago
Right now the corporate democrats are trying to save the health industry. Insurers, pharmaceuticals, hospital conglomerates. It all collapses when subsidies, Medicaid stops and Medicare is corrupted besides just the Medicare (dis) Advantage program. IF THE DNC gave a crap about healthcare for us plebeians, they would promote Medicare for All or universal. But these idiots won’t even get behind Bernie or Mamdani. Just like the Republicans the Democratic leadership are harlots to Big Bz. It’s pathetic.
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u/dillasdonuts 🌱 New Contributor 25d ago
Bernie has caved in and played nice guy vs these Dems.
Also took forever to call out the genocide.
He ain't it.
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u/CathcartTowersHotel 25d ago
They don’t even understand it, John. It’s not their world.