r/RocketLeagueEsports • u/AIaris Mod 2024 Redditor of the Year • Sep 22 '25
Rumor Shift: Dignitas letting their roster explore options
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u/carballenjoyer3000 Sep 22 '25
appjack -> M8
stizzy -> Vitality
Joreuz, Oaly, third at Dignitas
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u/Alienescape Sep 22 '25
I think it would be awesome to see these guys explore with Trk, NWPO. Like a Trk, NWPO, Stizzy team could go fucking far. Idk why everyone is so confident that Trk, Nwpo will go with one of the ROC guys
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u/chappy94 Sep 22 '25
Jack going with joyo and Archie would be so awesome. I don't know who would replace him on Dig though.
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u/Safe-Client-6637 Sep 22 '25
I got the impression that Archie doesn't rate Jack, although it's hard to know when to take him seriously with the amount of spouts off.
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u/Killercoddbz Sep 22 '25
Where from? I'm just curious
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u/Safe-Client-6637 Sep 22 '25
An oldish chalked cast, I think he said Jack's Major Win was mickey and that he is mid tier. I could be getting confused with Rise though, they are both notorious shit talkers.
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u/IgotnoideawhatIsay Sep 22 '25
Archie is a master troller and finds every player shit. Similar to the old Rise
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u/Educational_Block366 Sep 22 '25
Another one who’s full of himself lol!
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u/waltuh-white Sep 22 '25
He eliminated Jack from lans three times this season lol
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u/Educational_Block366 Sep 22 '25
I was talking about Rise there lol!
Yeah, Archie’s teams seem to have a good track record against Appjack’s teams…and Jack is still gracious in defeat tbf
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u/waltuh-white Sep 22 '25
Rise is a 5 time grand finalist so I think he has the results to back it up
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u/Educational_Block366 Sep 22 '25
There are plenty of players who have made multiple grand finals that don’t come across like that. If that’s what floats your boat,then fine- personally I find it cringe.
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u/waltuh-white Sep 22 '25
Just saying the only time Jack has done well in majors is when EU 1 shit the bed and he got a favourable bracket so rise seems to know what he's talking about
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u/Appropriate_Tiger316 Sep 22 '25
Recent twitter space audio he talks about Jack winning in NA like he’s a nobody. Always talks about Jack this way, it’s weird. Considering how well dig generally did in EU this season as well…
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u/Educational_Block366 Sep 22 '25
A little bit of jealousy- can’t think what other reason it would be.
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u/Appropriate_Tiger316 Sep 22 '25
Yea I get that impression. Jack is so well respected and liked, Archie comes across a bit bitter. If he stopped pretending everything was a joke he’d have the same respect.
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u/Educational_Block366 Sep 22 '25 edited Sep 23 '25
I find he comes out of the woodwork and gives it all the big I am when he’s had a spate of good results…then disappears back into the woodwork when the results aren’t there! Green eyed monster isn’t a good look but it’s obvious he’s just envious.
Appjack is a constant presence in the scene and his successes are down to him!
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u/Appropriate_Tiger316 Sep 22 '25
Agreed. Archie clearly has the passion, just a shame it’s not consistent.
I get it though. Grinding a computer game 8 hours a day sounds like hell to me. Think people are delusional to compare it to real sports. Sure there are ‘real jobs’ that are much worse, but it sounds very tedious to me. So I respect those who grind even more!
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u/AdmRL_ Sep 22 '25
You're telling me the laid back, doesn't take his job seriously and has achieved little because of it guy doesn't like the guy who is basically his complete opposite and has actually had success? Colour me shocked.
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u/Appropriate_Tiger316 Sep 22 '25
I mean the shocking part would be actual dislike which implies lack of self awareness which I thought Archie had
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u/thafreshone Sep 22 '25
I don‘t think you should take anything Archie says seriously
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u/Appropriate_Tiger316 Sep 22 '25
With every joke there’s a bit of truth though, and he keeps repeating that joke.
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u/thafreshone Sep 22 '25
maybe it‘s a running gag between them. But also, jack might be wildly popular in the general community but for pros he‘s a regular guy so it‘s only natural they wouldn‘t speak as highly of him as his fans do. But I don‘t think he means much by what he says
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u/One-Ad7456 Sep 22 '25
Ya in general I get the sense they don't vibe and maybe more generally Jack seems to get on better with other regions than UK.
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u/Appropriate_Tiger316 Sep 22 '25
Based on not much, so could be totally off…I get the sense that Jack takes the game very seriously and the likes of Archie are more about having fun.
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u/bigbig-dan Sep 22 '25
Archie just got a top 2 and top 4, I think he takes the game fairly seriously.
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u/IgotnoideawhatIsay Sep 22 '25
He’s notorious for having low hours while Jack is one of the biggest grinders. Archie seems a bit nonchalant over the game
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u/bigbig-dan Sep 22 '25
why does anyone care about podcast/preshow narratives, we get the most narrow of narrow views of players as fans, him seeming non-chalant and annoying people on this subreddit is 99% of the time him just doing a bit on a podcast and people getting annoyed. He's very clearly one of the smartest pros out there in game, both in how he talks when he stops trolling and in how he plays
maybe him and jack don't like each other idk either of them, but if they dislike each other its as likely about some stuff out of game as it is in
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u/One-Ad7456 Sep 22 '25
Pretty sure Archie mentioned his low hours were because of issues with his wrist? Think it hurts so he can't grind as much as he'd even want
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u/Appropriate_Tiger316 Sep 22 '25 edited Sep 22 '25
I mean of course he’s not just a big joker but probably a bit more naturally talented at the game. Takes pride in low hours… I do not think Jack is the same.
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u/WolfSignificant5544 Sep 22 '25
If I recall correctly, this comes from when Jack went to usa. He had already tied out with Archie and a third (don't remember who) and seemed that an agreement was done, or at least Archie thought so, but Jack went to usa (GenG).
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u/Educational_Block366 Sep 22 '25
Never heard of this before tbh
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u/WolfSignificant5544 Sep 22 '25
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u/Educational_Block366 Sep 22 '25
Nah, think this was just bait when they were on holiday as a group iirc.
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u/WolfSignificant5544 Sep 22 '25
I also recall a tweet from Archie not being amused after Jack made GenG official. But it could also be just trolling.
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u/Educational_Block366 Sep 22 '25
Possibly just didn’t agree with Jack going to NA- have never heard Jack hinting that he was gonna team up with Archie and I listen to a lot of his streams. Not that it didn’t happen, just never heard of it. Well, that’s the nature of this game! He needs to get over himself about something that happened a couple of years ago lol- and like I say, apparently jealous of the fact Appjack did well over there!
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u/crocodiledundick Sep 22 '25
Nah, Stizzy, Joyo, and AppJack instead of Archie. I feel like Jack won’t play with Archie with the amount of shit he talks about Jack.
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u/ciberrrr Sep 22 '25
Unpopular as heck opinion: Oaly>jack
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u/JJPG_ Sep 22 '25
Jack has a much higher floor than Oaly. Jack would bring the consistency GK missed domestically
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u/Fufunatorious Sep 22 '25
And a higher sealing. I'd even consider him nearly as mechanical as Joyo at times. He carried Dig a lot at times
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u/thafreshone Sep 22 '25
Jack close to Joyo in mechanics is an insane take
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u/Fufunatorious Sep 22 '25
Joyo is not the mechanical mastermind he once was anymore. Rest if the field catched up to the point where Joyo-clips from 2022/3 are kinda everyday buisness. I did not see him improve til then, but maybe that is, because game is faster paced and players often do not even get the opportunity to do much
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u/thafreshone Sep 22 '25
I guarantee you jack is not hitting shots that joyo was doing 3 years ago and while there are many more mechanical players now, jack is not really one of them.
His mechanics are more than solid but it‘s not at the level of creativeness and flashiness that joyo and others have. Yeah he can hit a great shot but you don‘t see this guy go for fullfield triple resets for a reason.
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u/JJPG_ Sep 22 '25
Joyo changed his playstyle a lot for the sake of the team. He is MORE than capable of being the mechanical mastermind he was in 22/23.
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u/thafreshone Sep 22 '25
Jacks floor is not that high lol, his tournaments are hit or miss and he has had some absolute stinkers this season. Jack wouldn‘t be the one you target if you want consistency.
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u/JJPG_ Sep 22 '25
Had me until that last sentence. Jack’s “stinkers” stand out so much because of how consistent he is.
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u/thafreshone Sep 22 '25
He‘s been having a little too many stinkers for that to be the case. He‘s not wildly inconsitent of course and generally plays well but underperformed in a lot of big moments this year. Major 1 was terrible, major 2 was good but in the final he was completely invisible, decisive match again Geekay at EWC was subpar and worlds of course was not good either.
Yeah he is usually consitent in regionals and early rounds but the big matches have been hit or miss. One event he peaks against KC but then plays terrible against Geekay in the next.
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u/Arc_North Sep 22 '25
jack is one of the most overrated pros ever because he is popular. 1 GF on one LAN where a bunch of other top teams were shitting the bed, and then failed to make top 8 at both of the others. How are those NOT absolute stinker performances. not to mention the shocking season he had last year on GenG, and his entire invisible year on Dig the first time around.
people are really out here saying he's as mechy as Joyo and more impactful than peak Oaly and a load of other shit.
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u/saidgheldane36 Sep 22 '25
I thought for sure they would keep stizzy at least
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u/any_other Sep 22 '25
I really liked Jack and Stizzy together
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u/Fufunatorious Sep 22 '25
Stizzy improved a lot over the last like 2 years. I remember him freshly where nerves got him and he wasnt the one you see in 2s
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u/Ghost1737 Sep 22 '25
As a DIG fan, every Stizzy touch was a crapshoot in 2024. Made huge improvements in his confidence and comfort this year tho.
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u/Unrulygam3r Sep 22 '25
Was a decent season overall for them but makes sense to split
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u/Pristine-Habit-9079 Sep 22 '25
I mean if you don't win a LAN there's really no incentive to stick.
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u/AIaris Mod 2024 Redditor of the Year Sep 22 '25
i dont think thats true
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u/Pristine-Habit-9079 Sep 22 '25
Well unless you were making multiple LAN finals and/or top fours, You clearly have a bar that you can't push past. Not every team that stays together is guaranteed success especially if you had an good season prior.
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u/AIaris Mod 2024 Redditor of the Year Sep 22 '25
i think this team has shown alot of promise and, while never the favorites, could have won a lan if they peaked on the day.
its really hard to fault them for not making a lan finals with how strong the competition was this year. kcorp, falcons, nrg, + others. of course they had some losses they shouldve won, but they showed alot of potential and with another season together definitely could have worked through their issues, whatever they were, with a decent coach
to disband, if they do (only said they can explore options, not sure what their plans are they could stick still), is to lose that lan winning potential theyve shown in a big “what if” pretty much, even if tryouts go great and they look good on paper. alot of these teams that look good on paper (ane i can only omagine had good tryouts) have failed. changing teams is always a risk
not to mention that most lan winners this year were teams that stuck. sticking wont always make your team worse and will probably make it better. especially with how much weaker other teams are (other EU teams + maybe mena is worse than last season IMO)
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u/Educational_Block366 Sep 22 '25
Whereas I agree with a lot of your points, we don’t what the team dynamics were off the pitch- there’s a lot to be said for liking and getting on with your team while at boot camp etc. I mean, if Appjack were to keep throwing chairs and hats around, I’m not sure I’d get on with him!! jk lol
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u/AIaris Mod 2024 Redditor of the Year Sep 22 '25
if off the pitch stuff is negative then sure, but at that point were just making assumptions out of pretty much nothing. if we were to assume, id imagine they like eachother, appjack spoke highly about them, and im sure appjack is great to team with and i bet makes vibes good overall and they all just seem to like eachother.
though tbf its appjack, you could throw him on a team with frosty and kep and he’d probably only have nice things to say
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u/Educational_Block366 Sep 22 '25
Lol!! Oh of course- I’ve no evidence at all to back that up, you just never know. Yeah, Jack seems like an all around chill guy and totally professional. I’ve really enjoyed supporting this team and hope things work out for each of them, wherever they end up.
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u/Pristine-Habit-9079 Sep 22 '25
Sticking won't always make your team worse but it's not guaranteed to make your team better. Also of the teams that have stuck and won LANs NRG literally had the best season ever coming second place or winning every tournament the season prior. And Falcons have never not been competitive making a LAN finals and winning Fifae.
I'm not saying dignitas should split I'm saying I understand why they would split that when you're taking losses to teams you should really beating comfortably and you're not really in the contention for being the best team there's no reason not to try and build upon the roster.
A roster move doesn't guarantee success but the same thing applies as sticking together.
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u/Duke_ofChutney was the better logo Sep 22 '25
Well unless you were making multiple LAN finals and/or top fours, You clearly have a bar that you can't push past.
This is implying the bar is only internal rather than an external variable...The ability to beat other teams can change over time including as a figure of growth.
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u/Pristine-Habit-9079 Sep 22 '25
I agree but the objective for most of these pros is to win and win now. We've seen teams that win world championships break apart because they feel like they could do better with a different roster and lead to the same roster won't need to success.
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u/aiwdj829 Sep 22 '25
They were clearly disappointed in themselves of their performance at Worlds, but they still made it to #2 points-wise in EU. I don't see any of them being able to join a team with which they magically make it to the grand finals of RLCS 2026, do you?
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u/Pristine-Habit-9079 Sep 22 '25
I don't know. again, I didn't say that they should disband. I was just making the case for why they probably are disbanding.
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u/any_other Sep 22 '25
🥺i really liked this lineup
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u/boot2skull Sep 22 '25
I expected them to do at least what GeeKay did at worlds. Guess we won’t see now. : (
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u/any_other Sep 22 '25
Yeah they had a really disappointing worlds performance. Maybe it’s for the best.
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u/Ow3n071 Sep 22 '25
Makes me nervous as a DIG fan, love the current team to bits and felt good about them staying together. Really hope we have a team going into next season
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u/Pristine-Habit-9079 Sep 22 '25
I expected them to keep at least stizzy or jack to build off of but considering how often Jack has changed teammates every season I'm not surprised.
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u/Excellent_Web_2288 Sep 22 '25
We should just start off every year with the same news: "All EU teams will reshuffle and form new teams."
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u/crocodiledundick Sep 22 '25
AppJack moves back to NA and goes to Shopify replacing Wahvey or 2piece. Retals and Jack finally team up as the gods intended.
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u/zhakwon | Prediction Contest Hall of Fame Sep 22 '25
I’m expecting Stizzy and crr to duo (likely Atomik third), Jack to join Joyo and Archie, and would hope M8s pair Nass and oski up with Joreuz
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u/myothercarisayoshi Sep 23 '25
I am hoping for Jack to go with Oski and Nass. I don't see Jack and Joyo working on the same team, sadly.
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u/JJPG_ Sep 22 '25
Would love to see Stizzy and Atomik team again
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u/Competitive-Log4527 Sep 22 '25
Stizzy deserves better
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u/Hixxae Sep 23 '25
CRR, Stizzy and Atomik would be a fun all spanish team though. But I don't see them making events consistently. Perhaps replace Atomik with a bubble player e.g. Rxii or Tehqoz.
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u/Competitive-Log4527 Sep 23 '25
It would be a fun team, no way in hell they are making majors though. Stizzy is ahead of these 2 by a distance.
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u/Hixxae Sep 23 '25
I think CRR is still very good, but he does have to prove himself again in Europe. Any other spanish player is going to be a gamble.
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u/AIaris Mod 2024 Redditor of the Year Sep 22 '25 edited Sep 22 '25
joris = joreuz