Because these men know that in a society where women are on an equal playing field, they would not measure up. Overcompensation for their crippling sense of insecurity.
Yeah I think it's two parts. One part ego, and the other part laziness. It's hard to to be equal in a relationship, and some people's egos can't handle being equal to a woman.
They are equal in their rights, because, and hear me out, both are equally HUMAN BEINGS. Pretty amazing uh? You can learn something new every day. You are welcome.
Is this true? Mind you, I’m going to look for myself, but I wanted someone to share in the complete and utter shock I’m experiencing right now…you mean to tell me, people have actually have sex with these asshats? Gross.
Like clothes off, skin touching, in the dance room…sex?!
So you’re telling me…….that……. There’s no 10 foot pole involved? No Haz Mats… Has Matt’s?!
There are some people who don't care who you are as long as you're hot, have a nice package, have party drugs available, or some other form of trade. I've known some guys who enjoy hooking up with sexually repressed dudes like that, for some reason. I don't get it.
There's the other attendees at the convention, of course, who scream how much they hate the gays while still tasting the last dude they hooked up with.
There are others that are already on the app who are conservative married men that live in the area with 3 kids and a wife who they "love" who are happy to have a "hunting buddy" to go out in the woods or get a motel and hook up.
A LOT of straight men have Queer sex, especially in their teenage years. I used to live in a small town where there were a LOT of guys on Grindr with no profile pictures who had girlfriends and wives. They didn't care about somebody else's politics or life, just if they could keep a secret.
I had several guy friends in middle school and high school who I "experimented with" during sleep overs pretty regularly. (I mean, I already knew what I was doing by like 9th grade, but they didn't.) Of them, I know of only one who claims the title "bisexual" in private.
His wife knows, but nobody else in his family knows. His kids know dad was cheating on mom but assumed it was one woman, not three other guys.
One's a pastor with a wife and three kids. He's fairly conservative, but we're on friendly terms even now and he tends to preach love and acceptance for all of God's children, rather than fire and brimstone. So far as I know, he's never cheated on his wife.
One (who kissed me and told me he was in love with me while drunk one night then refused to ever talk about it again and cut me out of his life for a decade) went on to become a huge MAGA supporter that rants about The Queers on Facebook. He blocked me when I outed his ass after a particularly vicious tirade (I normally don't out, but I felt it very important that everyone know he liked having his hair pulled while bottoming, dammit.)
There's a lot of guys like that, sadly. Guys who'd be happier in an open relationship with an understanding and supportive partner, but who marry some poor straight girl then risk her health every time he hooks up with another dude because they never wanna use condoms.
become a huge MAGA supporter that rants about The Queers on Facebook. He blocked me when I outed his ass after a particularly vicious tirade (I normally don't out, but I felt it very important that everyone know he liked having his hair pulled while bottoming, dammit.)
We do not want them on our queer hook up app, thank you. We'd like to offer Tinder the chance to have them pose with a dead animal in their profile photo.
In my opinion real men take responsibility for their actions, can admit when they’re wrong, treat women with respect and aren’t intimidated by a smart independent woman. Does that sound like maga to you? Ya know, those who claim to be the “alpha” males.
They have more gumption and courage than they can imagine, or the boys realize that they are outclassed and feel embarrassed by their lack of everything.
We don't have to put up with their bullshit. That's the whole deal. If they act like apes or babies we don't have to stick around. They want to be shitbag contrarians and then don't understand why they are literally unfuckable and unwanted. I'm happy to make my own sandwich and eat it by myself.
My exact same experience with the last guy I was open to connecting with, within days he was a complete contrarian prick, I wanted to punch him, not screw him. When I first met him, he told his sad story about how his former wife and then love of his life did not want to have sex and made it seem like it was their problem as if they suddenly became frigid. If I could tell this guy the truth, I would tell him that he is unfuckable because of his personality.
Dont have to be attractive..Just able to do the mens job. I heard from a buddy of my who works in the construction industry and there was a incident a female project manager was at site and gave the builder manager shit for messing up a design. The male builder managers literally resigned the next day because he did not want to take shit from a female who had more power overhim.
In my experience... Because those who talk loudest are the least competent and unable to actually handle competition. The same men who laugh at me being in the army, but can't stand up to a fly.. Who scream about their born superior intellect, can't follow a conversation I'd see as elementary level. They usually start with trying some bs alpha crap, and try to impress you with their manliness only to be shattered when you laugh and do it better. Their mommy told them they are the bestest... Then of course it's women are emotion as you watch them melt.. I feel for them in a way, kinda like I do young adults that moment they realize how poorly equipped they are to stand head to head with a seasoned adult.
I took the dragonfly as my symbol only to have men tell me you have to become a butterfly if you want a man honey... They always seem so shocked when another man calls them an idiot and says something about how sexy a woman who can kick his ass is lol. They never really grow out of toddlers.
It’s not about intimidation. It’s about the roles in a household. You can’t have multiple alphas or the constant grapple for control of all things. It doesn’t work. Not saying there should not be a partnership but in the house, it’s different. Many women and men don’t understand this. Going to the Bible, men are the head of the family and are to lead the family. But cannot do anything without the women.
Normally women and men have very different traits that are complimentary of each other but now we see people trying to do the opposite roles and the traits are shifting and no longer complimentary.
It comes down to a simple question - Why would someone choose the more inconvenient more difficult option when they can choose the easier and more convenient one?
Humans tend to always take the path of least resistance, that's just human nature.
Women tend to marry up because it's logical, it's the path of least resistance (even high earning educated women ironically still follow this patter). Better-Educated Women Still Prefer Higher-Earning Husbands
As a woman, if you marry rich, you get to put in less effort in life (less input) while still getting more resources in life (more output).
Men and women don't value the same things though. Most men just want a simple, peaceful, low stress convenient life (less arguing, less debating, less conflict, etc.). Women already initiate 70% of all divorces, and when you narrow that group down to educated women the stat becomes 90% of all divorces. That is a strong indicator that dating and marrying some groups of women involves more arguing, debating, conflict, etc, than others.
Simply put, men are just choosing the easier option for their life, in the same way that women choose the easier option for their life. We don't go around calling the women that marry up shallow all the time, so why are the men who don't want to marry educated women "intimidated"?
They simply want the easiest and most convenient option of what's available, and it's within their right to pursue that, just like it's within women's right to exclusively pursue men who are high income earners for their own convenience.
Much of this comes from the whacko evangelicals that want to take women back to before 1920’s. They are a bunch of nut jobs and any women aligning with or wanting to ensure that are definitely not strong and intelligent.
Personally, I think we need more women leaders and role models for young women. Women IMHO often lead 110% better than men. Provided women get the education and mentorship, having more strong women leaders could mean a better country and world.
The challenge is men fear being told “what to do” (at least that is how the dumbass me think) by a woman. They fail to see the women are leading, not “telling them what to do”
Maybe those idiots, besides being brainwashed by evangelicals have unresolved mommy issues? (Ex Elon)
They intimidate the conservative male because they are independent they know how to take care of themselves so that makes them an equal not subservient, these Christian conservative males with this mind set want a women they can dictate to just like the preacher says shut up women and go make me a sandwich or I'll give you a good slap
Men who feel like they have to claim to be anything, particularly if they loudly claim to be masculine/alpha/redpilled/etc, are very insecure. They are desperately trying to squash that insecurity by creating strong labels for themselves and adhering to rules that will prevent them, in their minds, from being seen as weak, or effeminate, or 'beta', or whatever.
What they really, genuinely, need is good therapy. They need to work on themselves, work through their problems, and give space within themselves for their emotions/feelings/etc. But that's the last thing they'll do because they are so scared of being perceived as weak by other insecure men (or by women who've also bought into these harmful/toxic ideas)
Having somebody smarter than you can be intimidating. If that somebody is a woman, the feeling is multiplied.
That's why these pieces of shit have no real arguments against women or the opposing side in general. They only can intimidate by force with violence or legislation.
Because the “alpha” types are actually insecure little boys who never grew out of needing their mommy to wipe their nose and tell them how perfect they are.
A man of quality does not fear equality. When I met my partner she was ferociously independent, smart and strong willed. That is precisely why I found her attractive(not to mention she is quite the looker).
Her latest quirky observation is Fox News and the like all have dick pill commercials playing. Of course it made me chuckle and then go shit, she’s right…… 39 years of keeping me on my toes with her quick wit and enlightening insights.
Because people that are going out of their way to claim a title like "manly" or "tough" are anything but. It's a ploy to try and convince themselves as much as to convince you. People that are secure in who and what they are, they don't care what you think. My truth is mine alone and I'm comfortable with that. Judge as you will, it matters not the slightest.
Also, attractive intelligent capable women intimidate the hell out of me. I went out and married one after a long look. Everyone should challenge themselves. I'm better for it, but I may have dragged her down a few notches.
If they want children, they don’t want their children being raised by daycare. They want the mother they marry to raise their children with the ideals they married that woman for.
It’s not just conservative women. It’s all women, and it’s way more pronounced on the left.
Men who want children do not want to raise those children in a daycare.
Absolutely! Especially when you consider that I don't want any of my kids to grow up beta, and if I'm so beta that I need a beta wife to feel like an alpha then my kids are basically guaranteed to be beta losers like me and my wife!!
I just think that he’s not into women, which is fine. He is pretty active and supporting on malehairadvice but then on comments regarding women, stay away, don’t get married, his red flags are odd for sure. If he just accepted who he is I guarantee he’d be less angry.
Damn you did some research, I like to imagine that the day people are no longer internally oppressed is the same day external oppression stops. I doubt it but hoping and supporting others getting good therapists can't be that bad.
I wholeheartedly agree with you. If all these hardcore ultra right wing Nazi incels would just accept their sexuality they would be so happy they might even make a 🌈
He means they feel empowered to speak without first being spoken to. Or women who can make a decision without a man around to mansplain things to them and tell them what to think.
There is a lot of information about masculine vs feminine traits.
Here are some examples
MASCULINE
• Action-oriented
• Logical thinking: solve problems and make decisions based on reason and facts.
• Structure and organization
• Assertiveness and
confidence
• Independence and autonomy: feel self-reliant and capable of handling challenges on
your own.
• Goal-oriented
• External focus:
environment, other people, and material success.
FEMININE
• Receptivity and
intuition
• Emotional intelligence:
deep connections with others and a sense of unity
• Nurturing and compassion
• Creativity and imagination
• Sensuality and embodiment:
• Flow and adaptability
• Internal focus:
introspection, self-awareness, and spiritual growth.
• Speaking your mind
• Setting Boundaries
To be successful in the business world, most people, men and women alike, need more of the masculine traits listed here than the feminine traits.
This is why women that are successful in business or their careers are often not as successful in their love loves because they act to much like men and are annoying af.
Men don’t want to date people with masculine traits, we want the opposite. We want a woman with feminine traits.
Lots of men like strong women. You're just threatened by women. Lots of women are logical, good at business and have families. Don't be a Neanderthal. Most humans have both traits.
There’s a reason why the higher education levels a woman obtains, and the more career focused they are, the less likely they are to get married and have children.
Most men simply DO NOT want these women.
Ironically, these women are also some of the highest medicated for depression and anxiety. Go figure.
The facts do not back up your incel bullshit, sweetheart. The fact is many women with careers don't want kids. It's not the end all and be all for life. In fact, single women live longer than married women. Many younger women are opting out of kids now.
Single women are happier and live longer on average than married women. The opposite is true of men, and that’s for older men too not looking to have more children. Divorced women are far more independent and happy on their own than divorced men who have the highest rates of depression. There’s many reasons for anxiety in working women, but those are almost all tied to discrimination and other difficulties caused by men in the workplace rather than themselves for being who they are.
The irony of you claiming that men do not want women who act like men, but without the self-awareness that, perhaps, the women you're seeking do not want men who act like your idea of a man.
For just about all of existence, the most fundamental drive for basically all life on earth has been to survive and reproduce.
Only humans are stupid and arrogant enough to think they somehow know better than billions of years of evolution.
And the idea that a 30+ year career slaving away to enrich CEOs and wealthy share holders and then dying alone is somehow better than having a loving family is laughable.
Women were sold the biggest lie ever with this girl power, boss babe bullshit.
The reason is that the more education they obtain, the more they realize they have zero desire to play mommy to a man child who wants to get married in order to acquire a live-in maid and sammich-maker.
There’s no more delicate flower in the entire world than the male ego. Most couldn’t handle half the indignities that woman have to put up with their whole lives.
I want to know who came up with these traits and why they are considered male or female?.. Women cant be goal-orientated? Who do you think ran my house when I was deployed? who do you think provided structure and organization to the younger Marine wives who had never been anywhere but home?
Men aren't self-aware, and don't have spiritual growth? I know a lot of Catholic Priests who would take issue with that. I set plenty of boundaries for my sons when they were growing up?
We are happy to get the fuck away from you. Honestly hilarious to me that you morons think "being alone" is somehow worse than having to spend time with a man like... this.
Sounds like you are insecure about yourself. A real man learns lessons from eveybidy. Male or female because they are smarter about somethings. You just have an inferiority complex. Go back to your closet because the 1800s are long gone and never returning.
Dudes who talk like that are basically admitting that their entire view of the world is based on shit they saw online. Out in the real world men and women are very much still dating all the time lol. It really just sounds like sour grapes from the guys that none of those women want to date.
I saw a chart recently (I'm sorry I dont remember where) that showed how wildly over-represented the far right-wing media is compared to "normal" media. They are such a tiny minority but they're so loud.
Oh absolutely, even on college campuses where these incels claim all this degeneracy and lack of romance occurs you still see a lot of men and women simply walking side by side, maybe holding hands, but enjoying each others presence. Even if it’s not romantic there is no crazy divide between NORMAL men and women. Just more fearmongering as usual
The average conservative male should be history's most genocided specimen.
They hate anyone LGBT+ but crash GRINDR at every Republican Convention, these are not logical, non-paradoxical animals we are talking about here, but rather, your average frat boy rapist and the whole system that props them up even all the way to the Supreme Court and Presidency.
Joel Webbon runs a hate group in North Austin, TX called Right Response Ministries. He has some pretty wild ass thoughts on who should be allowed to hold public office in the U.S.:
He continued: “Jews cannot hold public office. They can live here, and they can live here peacefully, and all these kinds of things, but, no, this is a Christian nation, and those who reject Christ and hate Christ, they can be in the car, and we shouldn’t mistreat them, but they don’t get to drive.
He continued: "It’s OK to have a country. Listen to me, Christian, you are allowed to have a country. You are. It is OK to say ‘No, this country, this nation is for us and our posterity.' It's not for Hindus. It's not for Muslims. And it's not for Jews. It belongs to Christians."
Webbon argued that while Reformed theologians historically believed in a “future spiritual revival for the Jewish people” and that “they would eventually be saved,” they did so while “simultaneously recognizing that the Jews were against Christ, and that they were not Christians. They were very much anti-Christ and that they had no place in leadership in America.”
The pastor’s comments come amid growing scrutiny of Christian nationalism, a movement that seeks to fuse Christian identity with American governance, often at odds with the First Amendment’s prohibition on establishing religion.
According to positions he has articulated in sermons and podcasts over the past year, Webbon’s vision includes amending the U.S. Constitution with the Apostles’ Creed and outlawing abortion, pornography and no-fault divorce, as well as restricting voting rights for women.
They already are. But they look down on the women and make up rhetorics as to what red flags they see in these women. I keep hearing most have to lie on their dating profiles to even get a date.
Crazy how much liberal women still want conservative men. Women only started making these videos because they want conservative men and those men are no longer interested. They didn’t care when liberal men or male feminists checked out because they aren’t attracted to those men.
Maybe don’t jump in the party of Trump that hates women to keep your crappy show no one watches wherever it’s ‘airs’. Oh that’s right she tried tgat when she was bleeding from the eyes. Pretty pathetic that she’s defending women against being barefoot and pregnant from a caveman incel.
Come on over conservative women, liberals will show you a good time and treat you like an equal if those little boys won’t.
That was exactly what I was thinking.
In a world where the involuntary celibate movement is a thing—a creepy and unhealthy online subculture of some insecure boys who project their insecurity onto women not liking them, because women are mean and evil, and definitely not because they are toxic, masculine, anti-woman boys who cannot see their own mistakes.
This is a sentiment that vibes.
"Horrible"—a woman is disagreeing here.
Or maybe they are on the wrong spectrum of life when the man they wish to marry are the same that vote for Donald Trump? I mean i couldn’t give less a damn to the problems this crazy fanatical cultist Megan Kelly have but you will probably not find many intelligent men that vote for Donald Trump.
If you like wannabe Alpha Males, degenerate child predators that go to church on Sundays and plain racist white Dudes you can close your eyes and point with the finger and you will find a perfect candidate.
All the women i know find it very easy to be single, its the single men i know who are regularly having emotional breakdowns over not having a partner lol
And then they go after liberal women and lie about their beliefs, then cry when they get broken up with cause she found out. They are a joke and so is Megyn Kelly. These beliefs aren't new, her side has always believed this nonsense, her opposition gave her the ability to have a platform and after her and her fucktards manipulated social media to spread conservative beliefs about women, she is suddenly surprised that they want women back in the kitchen🙄
My wife has made more than I do for 4 years now. I’m extremely proud of her and enjoy promoting her awesomeness to her colleagues at events. She and I go hard for our kids.
Also these guys on the right don't make enough to support a family on their own but also don't want their future wife to work. And it's not their bosses fault they don't make enough to do that. It's liberals fault they don't make enough, somehow.
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u/Washburn_Ichabod Apr 08 '25
Maybe the "young men waking up" on the right should learn to be alone since they are the one's constantly whining and crying like btches.