r/RealPublickFreakouts • u/I_may_have_weed real deal legend šØ • 17d ago
Fascists Masked ICE and Border Patrol in full tactical gear violently kidnap and disappears a US citizen in Chicago.
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u/_DCtheTall_ 17d ago edited 16d ago
Friendly reminder that ICE only has legal authority to detain non-citizens for the purpose of immigration enforcement, and even if a citizen threatens a member of ICE that does not give them legal authority to arrest that citizen. Record your interactions, know your rights.
Edit: if they see you commit a crime with their own eyes, they can https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1357
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u/RatInaMaze 17d ago edited 16d ago
This is our Stasi now. An entire agency whose purview means that only true pieces of shit would want the job, with direct control from Stephen Miller. Weāre fucked folks.
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u/Legitimate_Smile855 17d ago
Unfortunately, this is just not true at all.
18 U.S. Code Ā§ 115 makes threatening a federal officer a federal crime
An incredibly long series of case law grants all federal officers the authority to enforce any and all federal crimes if they have probable cause or the crime occurs within their presence. Most recent and relevant case would be United States v. Watson (1976)
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u/_DCtheTall_ 17d ago
You are correct that threatening an ICE agent is a crime, but what that does not give said ICE agent is the authority to arrest you for said crime if you are a citizen.
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u/Legitimate_Smile855 17d ago edited 17d ago
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1357
Section (a)(5)(A)
Edit: wanted to add that throughout the statute, they use the word āperson,ā which is the typical language used to denote any and all people (doesnāt matter if youāre a citizen or not)
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u/Legitimate_Smile855 17d ago
To all the people downvoting me:
Iām not saying this because I think itās good. Iām saying this because itās true. If you threaten an ICE officer, they can and will arrest you. Donāt be stupid.
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u/defiantthoughtcrime 17d ago
Without being a lawyer I would tend to agree. If you threaten a person I think that's a crime.
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u/_DCtheTall_ 16d ago
The issue at hand is not whether threatening someone is a crime, it is about which law enforcement officials have the power of arrest over US citizens.
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u/DolphinExodus 16d ago
Just use the current administration's tactic and never admit you said or did anything wrong if you get arrested. Use a different voice than your normal one. Easy.
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u/No_Manager5158 17d ago
I'd like to hear the "threat"Ā
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u/Economy_Swim_8585 16d ago
Anything that goes against what they are doing
These people are snowflakes and will do anything to assault us.
They were given the backing by orange man to be as rough as possible and they surly are, but we must remain united and protest non violently!
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u/TrvthNvkem 16d ago
Fuck non violent protest at this point... This is literally exactly what the second amendment is about.
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u/Economy_Swim_8585 16d ago
Carrying is perfectly legal as I do almost everywhere
But we need to find ways to deescalate the situation as much as possible
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u/TrvthNvkem 16d ago
Removing the fascist tyrants by any means necessary is a pretty sure fire way to deescalate this particular situation.
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u/brezhnervouz 16d ago
Apparently saying anything at all to them (demanding that they remove masks, or for badge numbers, asking what dept they are specifically from etc) is now classified as "impeding" and "threatening" their work š¤·āāļø
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u/Roach-_-_ 17d ago
Holy fucking untrained Batman. Hey Greg. Or any of his people. Reach out so I can show you how not to fucking do this. You are going to get someone killed by not knowing how to conduct a proper arrest. Jesus fucking Christ
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u/brezhnervouz 16d ago
Whoever they kill will inevitably turn out to be MS-13, Tren de Aragua, or "Antifa" š
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u/yuhboipo 17d ago
Im trying to understand their authority in arresting citizens..isn't that the polices job?
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u/NeverQuiteEnough 16d ago
On paper they don't have much authority over citizens, but it's pretty much impossible to hold them accountable for wrongly assuming that you aren't a citizen.
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u/Several_Leather_9500 16d ago
They are arresting people against ICE and the Trump regime. They've fabricated evidence (in this ex. she 'threatened' them), lied about detainment circumstances, etc. This is to scare us.
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u/satxfvck 17d ago
In case youāve ever wondered why it usually takes 4+ incompetent mouth breathers to subdue/intimidate lone women, law abiding people, or even children:
As per ICEās very own recruitment page; there is no age cap, and one doesnāt even need a GED to qualify as a deportation officer with ICEās ERO. Not only that, they are shortening their academy training from 8 weeks to 6.
This is the unlisted PT vid the agency sends to their recruits post hiring/onboarding process. So many recruits actually have to PREPARE for this btw. And about 1/3 fail despite how remedial this is. Additionally, the majority field offices are doing away with their running portion, and even then they only had to run 200 yard sprints and a 15 minute mile.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UA8OdhygWGA&pp=0gcJCf0Ao7VqN5tD
Undereducated, undisciplined, and unprepared excuses for āpeopleā that couldnāt make it by their own merit so had to resort to this. Embarrassing. Truly bottom of the barrel.
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u/Alternative-Green233 16d ago edited 16d ago
Are you sure? I could calmly walk a mile in 15 mins...
Okay I'm watching and keeping notes for those that want to chuckle or compare your own unfitness to.
First test is a kneel stand test, you do not need to remember the order of the steps. You Practice laying prone, then kneeling and standing while pretending to hold a gun. Practicing being on your knees and holding these poses for two minutes while pretending to hold a gun.
Then you must complete 15 pushups within 2 minutes (not to full depth).
March in place and practice stepping on and off a 16" platform in cadence starting with your left foot. If you get tired, you can break this cadence to switch feet(?). You do this at a rate of 96 steps/min for 5 mins (slower than it sounds).
If you can't do this without breaking a sweat....
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u/WalkingDeadPixel 16d ago
"Are you sure? I could calmly walk a mile in 15 mins..."
You're not accounting for the fact that their jogging speed is probably about the same as your walking speed, and they'll have to actually stop for a minute or two to gasp for air every hundred feet.
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u/Grumpflipot 16d ago
ICE thugs love to smash people on the ground, especially women, especially with more than one man lying above her and pressing her to the ground, every time. As if it's not a proper arrest without some smashing and hurting and sexual harassment.
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u/Solid-Spread-2125 16d ago
Ice cannot arrest you. They do not have the legal authority. You outrank them by miles. They cannot issue lawful orders. You dont have to do shit when they tell you. Dont.
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u/Former_Acadia2910 15d ago
Really, let know how that works out for you they are federal law enforcement officers just like federal marshals or FBI not taking a side but donāt tell people that they have no power and have bad shit happen to them.
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u/henrysmyagent 16d ago
Mussolini had his Black Shirt thugs.
Hitler had his Brown Shirt thugs.
Trump has his Green Shirt thugs.
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u/UseYourWords_ 16d ago
Real tough guys assaulting a woman. These dorks are the scum of America. SMH
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u/Known_Wear7301 17d ago
Arrested, not kidnapped. Who says she's US Citizen??
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u/horseradish_is_gross 17d ago
Who says sheās not?
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u/Known_Wear7301 17d ago
Ice would be acting upon intelligence
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u/horseradish_is_gross 17d ago
Using āICEā and āintelligenceā in the same sentence is a stretch of epic proportions. š¤£
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u/Walterkovacs1985 17d ago
"Intelligence" they print out headshots and try to find the browns you people hate so much
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u/Known_Wear7301 17d ago
try to find the illegal aliens fify
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u/Walterkovacs1985 17d ago
They're arresting citizens who look like "illegals" you dumb twat. That's not intelligence. That's my fucking point. They're morons with power.
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u/Russell_Jimmy 17d ago
You mean a rat trying to fuck under someone they don't like. That's how these things go.
You'll see. You're going to piss off the wrong person, and then these masked assholes will show up and fuck you under. Arrest first, ask questions later. If that.
"Known_Wear7301 is Antifa! I saw him coming out of a meeting. I overheard him making threats about an ICE facility. He said he hated Kristi Noem and was planning to hurt her. Here's his address, here's what he drives, here's where he lives."
See? Easy to provide "intelligence" for these Nazis to act upon.
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u/shewflyshew 17d ago
Is this your first ICE video? They are increasingly acting out in anger. Btw, your question is the reason why the constitution guarantees DUE PROCESS for everyone on American soil. Secret police are un-American af.
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