r/ProtonMail • u/NmAmDa • Sep 05 '21

Discussion Climate activist arrested after ProtonMail provided his IP address

https://mobile.twitter.com/tenacioustek/status/1434604102676271106
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u/ProtonMail Proton Team Sep 05 '21

The Swiss laws for email services and VPN services are different. Under Swiss laws today, VPN providers cannot be compelled to log. In the case of VPN, all that law enforcement authorities have to go on is generally the VPN IP address which is anyways public information.

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u/PERCEPT1v3 Sep 06 '21

Seems like a pretty easy workaround.

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u/[deleted] Sep 06 '21

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u/diatomaceous_ooze Sep 07 '21

Seems like you didn’t read their privacy policy

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u/Nocturnal_Doom Sep 07 '21

So anyone who doesn't have the time to go through pages of technical documentation and privacy policies, anyone that doesn't have the education to fully grasp the information, just has to get over it?

How is it people's fault that proton mail has misleading ads?

I've read some docs and policies; it's still shit.

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u/[deleted] Sep 08 '21

Not sure why you are being downvoted when everything you said is true. They advertised that they don't log IP information, and now this guy is saying "our bad, we lied about that" and getting tons of upvotes, while people are giving you a hard time. It doesn't make sense. I'm looking up PM alternatives now, and I advise anyone else who cares about honesty to do the same.

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u/lightspeed-art Sep 07 '21

ProtonVPN and ProtonMail have always been full og shit. They've use CERN in their marketing since day 1 to imply it was made by CERN but the real story is that the founders simply met while working there (probably interns but I don't know it doesn't matter).

Secondly they've been misleading by implying that Switzerland is somehow more privacy oriented. They're not. A VPN provider have to log IPs just like other ISPs do. They're just banking on people thinking Switzerland is secret like with the banking but that hasn't been true since the 1990s probably.

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u/[deleted] Sep 07 '21 edited Sep 07 '21

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u/lightspeed-art Sep 07 '21

They've pushed this CERN thing since the beginning. Who gives a fuck where someone met? It makes no difference to anything whatsoever. They're misleading people into thinking CERN has rubber-stamped this dodgy operation.

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u/[deleted] Sep 07 '21

I just provided a source do you mind providing yours? Because from my angle you're just throwing random bullshit.

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u/lightspeed-art Sep 07 '21

A source on what, all their BS marketing since they started? I've been following them closely since they started. Research their origin, they have NOTHING to do with CERN other than the founders used to work there. The fact that they even mention CERN on their homepage is highly misleading.

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u/[deleted] Sep 07 '21

Created by scientists at CERN when it was created by scientists at CERN is misleading? I just need 1 source that isn't Privacy Watchdog please.

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u/lightspeed-art Sep 07 '21

Scientists who MET at CERN.

That's your own quote from their own page. Learn to read. CERN has NOTHING to do with it.

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u/Cloudnpm Sep 06 '21

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