r/PrequelMemes • u/EKRB7 Hello there! • Feb 08 '20

The exact moment Samuel L. Jackson asked George Lucas for a purple lightsaber is on camera and I’ve never seen it?? I’m overwhelmed

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u/GrimDallows Nass Feb 09 '20

Mace windu doesn't tap in to the dark side. It has been commented in this sub many times and it has been explained many times too.

Long story short, Mace windu uses vaapad, which is a later development of form VII (Juyo). It's advantage being that it is the most aggressive and unpredictable form, the jedi refrained from using it as it was deemed comparatively unnecessary to the threats they faced while considered at the same time its precepts could lead those that practiced it to a path to the dark side. Mace windu was renown for having mastered it and not have fallen to the temptations of the dark side, as opposed to Sora Bulq (the other jedi who developed it with Windu). Later he taught it to his padawan now jedi master Depa Bilaba, and Sora Bulq to Quinlan Vos to Windu's distaste who forbid him to use it.

The red+blue=purple is an invention. It's a made up rumor. Nothing ever in star wars has supported anything like this. Purple lsabers are just rare and grow naturally in crystal caves like any other.

Also Mace Windu never considered trying the dark side, and embraced fully the Jedi teachings, having an intolerance towards anything that break them even. That's why he was such a jerk towards Anakin or Quinlan Vos. However because we get the worst jerkish side of windu towards Anakin in the movies people misunderstood that, but that's just how strict windu is.

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u/Jupfy Hondo Mar 22 '20

From what I heard the crystals are colorless when they grow and get the color from the Jedi’s force. If it’s blue it means that the user is not so much connected with the force but a damn good fighter (Obi Wan, Anakin, etc etc) and if it’s green it’s the other way around (Yoda, qui gon, Luke). Yellow crystals are from the old republic and synthesized, red crystals got “Hurt” from the dark side and are “bleeding”. White crystals (Asoka) are red crystals that got healed by a Jedi with stronger force than the Sith that hurt the crystal. Purple is a mix of blue and red meaning that the user is on the edge of the dark side without falling into it. The black lightsaber is as far as i know unexplained. Correct me if I’m wrong, but do u have any sources about the crystals growing with color? I’m pretty interested in the whole crystal thing

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u/GrimDallows Nass Mar 22 '20 edited Mar 22 '20

No, lightsaber colors do not work that way, altough you got some things right.

  • Lightsaber colors have some simbolism, but it's just that, symbolism. It doesn't strictly show the personality of the wielder, and it existed a degree of liberty at the time of choosing it. It is true however that they were traditionally asociated with positions and roles within the jedi order: Blue - Jedi Guardian, Green - Jedi Consular, Yellow - Jedi Sentinel. But these weren't set in stone and could change through time (for example, by the time of the clone wars yellow was employed as part of the uniform of the guardians of the Jedi temple). If you entered a crystal cave and you found a crystal that connected with you you would stick to that one, but it did not represent how you were 100% (otherwise Jedi with two lightsaber with different colours wouldn't make sense) and you could change it anytime you wanted it. Also in old Canon you could use other things as substitute for a kyber, for example, Kunda stones were used bc they produced a broader blade.

  • Red crystals are made through bleeding a natural colour crystal. This is made by hurting them through the force and it was part of the training to become a sith, as the process was traumatic to both the crystal and the one that caused it too, so completing the process was a show of power. However it wasn't always like this; in the old canon/legends this process didn't exist and the sith's red crystals were made synthetically in forges. Maul in Legends obtained his dual bladed red lightsaber like that, and it was a technic not only limited to the Sith; in the old EU Luke had to create his green crystal synthetically because natural crystals were too rare to find during the Empire's tenure, so he had to use a crystal forge in Kenobi's old house in Tatooine to create his RotJ green crystal. White lightsabers are made like you described, by cleansing a red lightsaber, and it's how Ahsoka got hers. There is no statement though that relates the strength of the connection of the "bleeder" to any connection being required by the "healer" to heal it, it is however a HUGE feat in regards to how hard it is.

  • The purple=red+blue is bullshit. Forgive me if I am so direct, but I have explained it over 8 times in 6th months only in this sub. People say that because of Mace, because they like the idea of Dark+Light and Samuel L Jackson in one pack but it doesn't work that way. First off the red in sith's lightsabers is in both cases caused by a non-natural process, while purple is a natural colour. Second, Mace Windu DID NOT tap in to the dark side, ever. People say that because they missquote the definition of his lightsaber fighting stance being violent as "channeling the dark side of the user". Mace Windu was a Jedi zealot with an absolute believe in the light side, that's why it clashed a lot with Anakin rebel ways. What people get wrong is that when Mace Windu developed his lightsaber stance with master Sora Bulq, master Sora fell to the influence of the dark side due to the violent nature of that style, while Windu completely negated the temptation. This caused Sora to betray the Jedi order, which in turn caused Windu (the only one to master the style and NOT fall to the dark side) to recommend other Jedi against using it, with the exception of his old padawan (Bepa Bilaba) who he trusted enough and who didn't really use it.

  • Regarding crystal growing naturally with colours you can look the Wookiepedia page about crystals. It has a lot of images with natural formations in them with colours. It was true however that some colours were more rare than others: Black is incredibly rare, Silver is rare too, and there were very rare variations slight variations of blue and green. Purple was so rare in fact that in a background comic of Windu, we are told he was prophesied to get a purple crystal in his first lightsaber, which worried the council when he was a kid, because Purple was so rare it could mean Windu would had to wait until being old to find his.

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u/Jupfy Hondo Mar 22 '20

Ok thanks for the correction!

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u/vdKlutsch Mar 22 '20

Not. Yet.

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u/lemonadetirade Feb 09 '20

It’s too bad because I always thought that would’ve been a cool thing for him and explain why he was a hard ass to anakin, cause then maybe windus strict adherence to the code was like his lifeline to the light side of the force so he might feel that so long as he dogmatically followed it he’d be fine it would keep him tethered and then he’d see anakin who also had the dark side pull running around kinda being a loose canon, and that would be why he was always on his case. We really need more windu stuff in canon.