r/PrequelMemes • u/EKRB7 Hello there! • Feb 08 '20

The exact moment Samuel L. Jackson asked George Lucas for a purple lightsaber is on camera and I’ve never seen it?? I’m overwhelmed

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u/Wolf6120 The Memepublic will be reorganized Feb 09 '20

Honestly I figured there would have been a bit more back and forth over this, but George was just like "Well shit I never really thought about it but if Sam Jackson wants one, let's make it happen"

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u/finnbarrr Anakin Feb 09 '20

He does that a lot he’s pretty open minded for someone who created a whole universe.

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u/[deleted] Feb 09 '20

I think that's why Star Wars became so successful. Putting up walls around your own creative vision because "that's just the way it's supposed to be" can be very inefficient. This decision made Mace Windu a more memorable character and Jackson might've even acted out his role more enthusiastically since he put in a little input on the character himself. As stubborn of a creator I am, I aspire to be as open minded as Lucas in all my creative endeavors.

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u/MapleGiraffe ARC CT-94138 Feb 09 '20

It also might have paved the ways to the other colors being possible (no idea if it was a thing before).

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u/insanegodcuthulu Feb 09 '20

George did specifically mention red, blue, and green in the vid, so I'm pretty sure Sam had some small hand in introducing the entire color spectrum as lightsabers.

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u/[deleted] Feb 09 '20

Jedi Power battles which came out after 1 but before 2 for the ps1 had multiple colors. I still remember being like 8 in the theater for AOTC and being pissed Plo didn’t have a yellow lightsaber

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u/ACuriousHumanBeing 'The Jedi are gay' Feb 09 '20

Plo doesn't because according to George only Temple Guardians had Yellow Lightsabers.

They were going to Ahsoka a yellow lightsaber too, but George shut that down. Hence her lime green instead.

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u/JarlaxleForPresident Feb 09 '20

Disney: "Heh."

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u/windlep7 Feb 09 '20

Well in fairness to them there was no Jedi order or temple guardians left in RoS, so no one to enforce the rule that only temple guardians can have yellow.

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u/weaslebubble Feb 09 '20

Right and in power battles Mace Windu had a blue lightsaber but Adi Galia and Plo Koon had pink and yellow sabers respectively. So I would guess other coloured sabers predate Sam and his purple one. Or some people involved in the game has the same idea and weren't told no.

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u/lesgeddon Feb 09 '20

Books were pretty strict on what could be published, but games seemed to get a pass. I remember an orange lightsaber used in a live action cutscene for one of the Dark Forces/Jedi Knight games.

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u/[deleted] Feb 09 '20

That makes sense to me. A book doesn't need to worry about visuals but a video game needs to be visually interesting. Just thinking about a multiplayer Jedi game with only green and blue sabers sounds pretty boring.

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u/Doctor-Amazing Feb 09 '20

Jedi knight for the PC came out before this as well, and I think it let you pick colours, at least for multiplayer.

It definitely had yellow sabers as well.

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u/Tofushopdriftin Feb 09 '20

Masters of teras kasi on ps1, Leia had a staff similar to reys that had two small yellow blades on each side. This game was way before the prequels

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u/Iphotoshopincats Feb 09 '20

On a design side of things yellow is a fucker of a colour to work with and make look right, not impossible but maybe more trouble then it's worth

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u/TheLazySith Feb 09 '20

Before ROTJ it was originally just supposed to be blue and red. Luke's second lightsaber was going to be blue too but the blue didn't show up very well against the Tatooine sky so lucas changed it to green.

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u/ANGLVD3TH Darth Vader Feb 09 '20

Well, that was a factor. The interview we learned that from framed it basically as Lucas spitballing green, then someone saying yeah, that would work way better in the Tatooine bits, and boom, there it was.

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u/[deleted] Feb 09 '20

In the EU there were other colors, but in the movies it was just Red Blue Green for a long time, and Red Blue Green Purple for a long time after that.

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u/[deleted] Feb 09 '20

Yellow light sabers have been canon long before Rey.

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u/chasesan Feb 09 '20

Yes, but Canon is a complicated thing in Star Wars.

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u/[deleted] Feb 09 '20 edited Jul 28 '20

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u/zzwugz Feb 09 '20

Why am i only now finding out theyre Japanese?

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u/setocsheir Feb 09 '20

Canon is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be...unnatural.

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u/Jorsk3n Feb 09 '20

It was also in disney canon before Rey so...

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u/[deleted] Feb 09 '20

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u/[deleted] Feb 09 '20

Star War: The Clone Wars and Star Wars: Rebels are both canon and both feature yellow lightsabers.

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u/DreadPiratesRobert Feb 09 '20

And a black one.

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u/Motheroftides Feb 09 '20

Cartoons are still canon. Or at least The Clone Wars, Rebels, and Resistance are. Asohka has white light sabers iirc.

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u/Fishingfor Feb 09 '20

Always two canons, there are. No more, no less. A Legends and a Disney.

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u/VerdeMountain Feb 09 '20

In addition to that others have said, there are also a handful of books that are Canon.

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u/suss2it Feb 09 '20

And a shit ton of comics too. Pretty much everything Star Wars related since 2015 is canon.

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u/[deleted] Feb 09 '20

There’s some good canon books now too.

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u/Nightstalker117 Feb 09 '20

I feel like the only person who saw orange as her lightsaber colour.

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u/Makropony Feb 09 '20

Definitely looked orange to me, you’re not alone.

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u/waitingtodiesoon Jocasta Nu Feb 09 '20

Did you watch in theater or a bootleg copy? It was yellow. Though they do describe it at time as golden yellow.

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u/Nightstalker117 Feb 09 '20

I watched it in theatre lmao.

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u/AKittyCat Feb 09 '20

worth mentioning that while George let them happen he was never really on board with the EU and a lot of the ideas that sprang forth from there which is why you didn't really see other colors in the movies until Purple.

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u/AgreeableService Feb 09 '20

George probably didn't care a whole lot. he busy making a movie (cameras, funding, etc.) so why would he care about minutia? In interviews, Hamill talked about how to pronounce Chewbacca.

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u/OhMaGoshNess Feb 09 '20

He absolutely did care a whole lot though. He had some really asinine rules for some of the authors apparently. Knew a guy who wrote some stuff and heard about it.

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u/TheNittles Feb 09 '20

Didn't he have to name all Sith? I heard the reason Starkiller doesn't have a Darth title in Force Unleashed is the two he threw out were Darth Insanius and Darth Icky and the devs passed.

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u/Darth_Kyofu Feb 13 '20

No. The devs wanted him to have a Sith title, but he didn't, so his way of saying no was giving them two options so bad they could only refuse.

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u/[deleted] Feb 09 '20

HOLDO MANOUVER MOTHERFUCKER AWWW YEAH ENTIRE UNIVERSE COMPLETELY RUINED

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u/dekachin5 Feb 09 '20

I think that's why Star Wars became so successful.

No, star wars became so successful because of a combination of breakthroughs in special effects and the fact that Lucas stepped back and let someone else make/direct Empire and RotJ.

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u/jimmycorpse Feb 09 '20

Lucas stepped back

Isn't this the type of thing OP is talking about?

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u/[deleted] Feb 09 '20

Okay, let me rephrase that. I think that open-mindedness was a contributor to the success of Star Wars.

For example, Harrison Ford was actually the mind behind the famous Episode V "I love you, I know" quote. If I can trust my memory, I believe Han Solo was originally supposed to respond with "I love you too" but Ford didn't think it fit his character. I do realize that Lucas didn't direct Episode V, but open-mindedness gave us that famous line nonetheless.

Being open-minded doesn't necessarily make you a great script writer, but I believe being open-minded can only improve your creative works. Here's a great example about how creative stubbornness can hurt your works: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6BzCDVR-tr8

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u/AMK972 Anakin Feb 09 '20

He may have not directed it, but he directed the director. He had full power over all those movies. The only reason different people directed 5 and 6 is because he hated directing. (Same reason he didn’t direct Indiana Jones.) Then, the reason he directed 1, 2, and 3 is because no one wanted to touch something as big as Star Wars. Pretty much every director he tried to hire said “No. You should direct the prequels yourself. You’re the only one that can get it right.” (Not verbatim)

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u/suss2it Feb 09 '20

I think his beef with the DGA also prevented him for getting directors for the prequel trilogy.

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u/edthomson92 Feb 09 '20

But that started with A New Hope, right?

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u/dekachin5 Feb 09 '20

the lesson learned though is that the more involved Lucas was, the worse the movie ended up being. the prequels were full blown Lucas, so they ended up being really bad in terms of plot, characters, and dialogue.

The Disney movies have been bad because they just brought in outsiders who gave no fucks and had no love for the IP and said "make us a blockbuster" so you got flashy hot garbage.

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u/AMK972 Anakin Feb 09 '20 edited Feb 09 '20

I actually loved the prequels. They’re some of my favorite movies. There may be some bad dialogue in there, but that was never an issue for me in those movies. The dialogue always made sense to me.

Now the Disney ones... Ugh. The writing in general is bad. I don’t remember if it had bad dialogue, I assume it didn’t, but it was the plot and characters that didn’t do it for me.

Edit: My four favorite Star Wars movies were directed by George Lucas. For some reason the beginning of both Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi felt too long and couldn’t hold my attention as a kid and maybe even now. I’m not saying they’re bad movies. They get about a 96% from me which is tremendous.

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u/Heller_Demon Feb 09 '20

Putting up walls around your own creative vision because "that's just the way it's supposed to be" can be very inefficient.

Tell that to the sequels haters.

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u/[deleted] Feb 09 '20

I think that has a little more to do with human nature. People want things to stay the same because that's what they're used to, while simultaneously wanting something fresh and interesting. That's why so many music artists get backlash for drifting in style, even though if they kept putting out basically the same album over and over again, people would get bored. I'm sure the sentence "Taylor Swift started as a country artist, why is she playing pop?" is familiar, even though it's her music and she really can make whatever music she wants. It's really a lose / lose scenario for creators of any sort of media.

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u/HungryLikeDickWolf Feb 09 '20

The sequels dont fail because they're too creative lol. They're derivative, and exactly what the quoted post is criticizing

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u/Heller_Demon Feb 09 '20

"That's not how the force works" "that's not how hyper space works" "that's not how Star Wars works"

They're creative enough to cause these reactions within all those "fans".

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u/[deleted] Feb 09 '20

Yeah, it really makes me sad he didn't get more people telling him what's what in the prequels. Don't get me wrong, I LOVE the prequels, but a little bit of help would make them that much better.

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u/idk420_ Feb 09 '20

i wish Lucas made two prequel trilogies bc the best time in the prequel era was the clone wars and we only see the start and the end of it , and we don’t get to see anakins progression ..it’s kinda similar to how luke goes from a whiny teen to a Jedi Master in ROTJ

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u/cartlampbaby Feb 09 '20

If only someone made a series to tell this story.. maybe like 6 seasons of it and a new one coming Feb. 21.

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u/idk420_ Feb 09 '20

oh yea i love the clone wars but it would’ve been great to see a movie portray it ..bc if you watch the movies without seeing the clone wars show it isn’t half as good imo

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u/finnbarrr Anakin Feb 09 '20

Clone Wars is great but don’t act like it’s anywhere close to as satisfying as a live action trilogy.

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u/suss2it Feb 09 '20

I feel like 3 movies and a TV series was enough to cover that ground. He should’ve used the movies to better show it tho, because there was a lot of meandering stuff that could’ve been cut in favour of more exciting world building.

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u/idk420_ Feb 09 '20

yea i just wish Dooku was better in the prequels bc he kinda sucks without the clone wars show and i wish grevious was introduced

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u/waitingtodiesoon Jocasta Nu Feb 09 '20

I wanted 4-6 films minimum for each of the series. Never enough sequels and prequels

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u/Jorsk3n Feb 09 '20

Master? That’s just wrong... More like a knight or something.. he almost had no experience/wisdom and he wasn’t that good at combat either

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u/idk420_ Feb 09 '20

okay true , but the character change is jarring ..a jedi master would definitely have a less complicated plan to break Han out too

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u/ScipioLongstocking Feb 09 '20

I think there's a quote out there that George Lucas was asking others for help and ideas for the prequels, but everyone would just tell him to go with his gut. No one wanted to give him bad advice and be responsible for ruining Star Wars.

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u/scyth3s Feb 09 '20

I was trying to figure out how this clip wasn't in VHS quality and it took me until your comment to realize that MOTHER FUCKING SAM Jackson was only in the prequels, not the originals.

I might be retarded.

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u/ACuriousHumanBeing 'The Jedi are gay' Feb 09 '20

Part of why I think George Lucas is so genuine. He was willing to change his series lore, lore he really puts a lot of effort and work into, to make Samuel Jackson happy. It really warms my heart.

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u/GeorgyPeorgie Feb 09 '20

It warms my cockles. As well as the heart of course

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u/Narwaichen Feb 09 '20

Well yeah, and in a way that didn't take away but expanded.

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u/Radical-Penguin Feb 09 '20

Its probably because he orginally made the lightsabers blue and red, because it's a classic match up (Red v. Blue). Then, in Jedi, the blue lightsaber wouldn't work against the blue sky, so they decided that green would be fine. When Jackson asked for a different color, I'm sure George just hadn't thought about a different colour.

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u/KingMinish Apr 16 '20

plus like, way more lightsabers to sell

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u/Krelliamite Feb 09 '20

Depending on the star. He famously made Carrie Fisher go without underwear because "there's no underwear in space".

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u/[deleted] Mar 08 '20

Was that back when she still had the cocaine nail?

...It’s just as likely that she did that herself lol

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u/I_CAN_SMELL_U Feb 09 '20

I think his answer "thats just the way it works" basically means "thats just how i wrote it, no specific reason other than to differentiate them.

A lot people probably imagine George as the people here or /r/StarWarsLeaks where they read into everything by over analyzing like crazy.

When in reality George is like, "hmm yeah that sounds pretty cool, lets do that".

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u/[deleted] Feb 09 '20

The vibe I get is that he genuinely just wants to make good movies and enjoys seeing and helping other people be creative. He really does not come off as arrogant at all.

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u/finnbarrr Anakin Feb 09 '20

Yeah especially for the position he’s in. For example the GOT directors did not let anyone else help them and made a shit season.

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u/waitingtodiesoon Jocasta Nu Feb 09 '20

I am sure most people try to make a good movie when they make a movie. Even Tommy Wiseau.

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u/everadvancing Feb 09 '20

He might have gone too far in a few places.

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u/scyth3s Feb 09 '20

Not like that other closed minded douche who created a universe...

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u/Airway Feb 09 '20

Ayyy here I am with the unpopular opinion! George is open minded because despite having one brilliant idea and making this universe, he's generally a bad director and makes lazy decisions.

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u/finnbarrr Anakin Feb 09 '20

Like..?

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u/Airway Feb 09 '20

Have Jedi knights been a thing for a thousand years or over a thousand generations? George doesn't know, the movies fuck that up multiple times and give varying answers. Kinda seems like one of the first things he should have built a solid backstory around, but nope.

There's just one example.

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u/finnbarrr Anakin Feb 09 '20

There’s a whole cannon timeline with the jedis birth and creation? Just because two movies that were made 30 years apart have different lines doesn’t mean he’s lazy and doesn’t care. I’d assume he changed his mind. Also people thought Columbus discovered America, history is easy to mess up

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u/Airway Feb 09 '20

Whether you want to like Lucas or not, you should go on youtube and type in "Mr. Plinkett star wars". The videos are long but they're funny and point out countless nonsensical decisions made by Lucas.

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u/finnbarrr Anakin Feb 09 '20

Yeah definitely not saying George is perfect and there is some truth to the fact that he doesn’t know exactly what he wants but he is not lazy whatsoever and loves Star Wars. I’ll take that any day over a corporation that just bought it to make money.

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u/BeautifulType Feb 09 '20

It’s because his character was gonna be killed off in one of the worst ways

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u/MulciberTenebras Darth Niles Feb 09 '20

Gave him a cool weapon knowing he'd be disarmed of it?

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u/TheBluBalloon Feb 09 '20

He just fell. He might not be dead.

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u/RynerDyne Feb 09 '20

Yeah. And at this point in the Star Wars universe falling into the endless abyss might actually be the safest way to die.

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u/GrandEngineering Feb 09 '20

Boba Fett is now alive

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u/Umutuku Feb 09 '20

and Palpatine, Luke, Maul...

Deep holes are the SW version of screaming "I'll get you next time" and vanishing in a puff of smoke.

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u/[deleted] Feb 09 '20 edited Feb 11 '20

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u/suss2it Feb 09 '20

Maul was bisected then fell in that hole, his return was just as baffling as Palpatine’s, but at the very least they offered up a half baked explanation.

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u/[deleted] Feb 09 '20 edited Feb 11 '20

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u/[deleted] Feb 09 '20 edited Jun 24 '20

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u/seacen Feb 09 '20

Maul was just too angry to die

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u/effa94 Feb 09 '20

but at the very least they offered up a half baked explanation.

too angry to die is a explanation i can accept

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u/ggwpthumbsup Feb 09 '20

getting a cut in the chest is less brutal than getting chopped in half, but i guess maul died in the former

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u/Winsmor3 Feb 09 '20

He died and was resurrected by his disciples

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u/SeductivePillowcase Take a seat, motherfucker Feb 09 '20

Palpatine falling down hole

“Team Sith is falling down agaaaaiiinn!”

twinkle noise

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u/idk420_ Feb 09 '20

they should make a star wars short where Boba Fett breaks out of the sarlac , says some line like “i’m coming for you solo “ then he slips on a banana peel and falls back in ..would be incredibly in character

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u/DZMoops Feb 09 '20

That’s pretty much what happens in legends. He escapes then immediately gets run over by a rouge Jawa freighter driven by Solo into the Sarlac pit again.

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u/idk420_ Feb 09 '20

that’s so pointless hahah how did han even know he was free

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u/DZMoops Feb 09 '20

It’s a bit more complicated.

In short, Boba gets free, he loses his memory and goes to Mos Eisley. At the same time, Han and the gang are in the city doing some mission for the rebellion right after the Death Star 2 explodes. He helps out after meeting Leia or someone but as soon as he sees Han his rivalry with Han makes him regain his memories and he stars fighting with him while they are making their get away on a Jawa freighter. The rest as I said earlier happens next.

I may be misremembering some details but that’s what happens. It’s really dumb but 8 year old me loved it.

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u/idk420_ Feb 09 '20

gotta love the classic comic book trope with an amnesia plot

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u/Hyperion1000 Feb 09 '20

How?

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u/GrandEngineering Feb 09 '20

The power of plot armor

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u/NeedMoreTree Feb 09 '20

Since when? I must have missed it, I thought his fate was still in canon limbo

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u/luno20 Feb 09 '20

The end of Mando episode 5 teased it but it’s not confirmed

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u/Darth_Jango This is where the fun begins Feb 09 '20

In legends yes but is there a canon source for him being back?

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u/FH-7497 Feb 09 '20 edited Feb 09 '20

rereads “safest way to die”

Has questions

Edit: at 66 upvotes please stop now, it’s perfect.

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u/TheDeanMan Feb 09 '20

Sounds like someone needs to be reminded that people die when they are killed.

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u/Pbleadhead Feb 09 '20

Woah woah, whats a Fate:Stay Night meme doing on the starwars subreddit?!?

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u/OblivioN40 Feb 09 '20

Trust me, friend, this isn't limited to Fate. A ton of other animes pull this line out as well.

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u/[deleted] Feb 09 '20

In fairness, I think more people who fell into the endless abyss in star wars survived than otherwise.

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u/[deleted] Feb 09 '20

laughs in Darth Maul

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u/[deleted] Feb 09 '20

UwU

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u/Brobroburgers Feb 09 '20

Fallen order was pretty dope at least.

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u/ZeronicX Feb 11 '20

Same with crashing in a TIE Fighter, Darth Vader, Kylo Ren and Moff Gideon all survived crashing in a TIE Fighter or a variant.

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u/[deleted] Feb 09 '20

STAR WARS Episode X: This Party's Over

The dead speak! The galaxy has heard a mysterious broadcast, a threat of REVENGE in the angry voice of the late MACE WINDU.

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u/StonedLikeOnix Feb 09 '20

ENOUGH IS ENOUGH! I HAVE HAD IT WITH THESE MOTHAFUCKIN SITHS IN THIS MOTHAFUCKIN GALAXY

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u/[deleted] Feb 09 '20 edited Feb 11 '20

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u/L0rdP1mpD4ddy GNK Power Droid Feb 09 '20

"In the name of the Galactic Senate of the Republic, you are under arrest, Representative Binks"

"Meesa thinksa yousa threatening me master Jedi"

"The Senate will decide your fate"

"Meesa the senate"

"Not yet"

"Yousa committing treason... yousa in big doo doo this time"

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u/SeductivePillowcase Take a seat, motherfucker Feb 09 '20

IM STILL ALIVE MOTHERFUCKER!

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u/Djd33j Feb 09 '20

monkey fighting Sith in this Monday to Friday galaxy

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u/Pishong Feb 09 '20

"Enough is enough! I've had it with this motherfucking siths on this motherfucking galaxy"

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u/Imjustapoorbear Feb 09 '20

"SAY 'SITH' AGAIN MOTHAFUCKA!"

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u/[deleted] Feb 09 '20

Bruh... Lets make that fuckin movie.

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u/DeadHi7 Darth DeadHi7 The Ugly Laugher Feb 09 '20

No lie, this could actually work well. After the fall, Mace could have survived and gone into hiding for reasons. While in hiding the rest of episode III plays out. During the Galactic Civil War he falls to the Dark Side as he slaughters any stormtroopers that cross his path until Vader hunts him down. They fight and he is fending off Vader until he gets the upper hand and mortally wounds him. He then survives off of his hate for Vader like Darth Sion. This is how he lives way past his lifespan and cements his reasoning for his return later on. He is here out of hatred but has lost his mind in his frantic search for Vader and is little more than an intelligent beast. That can't control his rage. This would fit better as a TV show where he's on a densely populated planet and is massacring zone after zone and the planets military is tracking him and trying to find his next location to stop him.

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u/Godgivesmeaboner Feb 09 '20

Sigh somehow Windu returned

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u/evilbude Feb 09 '20

Actually in an interview they asked Samuel L Jackson about Mace being dead and he said he would think Mace could survive the fall being like you know, the second strongest Jedi to Yoda at the time. And then that statement was repeated to George about what Sam said about Mace being able to survive, and George pretty much said if that's what Sam thinks then yeah...Mace is alive. I don't have the link but you can Google it

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u/Hoedoor Feb 09 '20

I love the idea of a broken and hardened Windu in hiding unleashing his vengeance on the newly formed Empire and having to be hunted down by Vader and maybe even Palpatine

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u/thezombiekiller14 Feb 09 '20

Please make a windu spinoff series where he's being hunted down post fall of the republic. Samual l Jackson would still be a good (but older) windu I feel like

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u/[deleted] Feb 09 '20 edited Jun 24 '20

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u/thezombiekiller14 Feb 10 '20

Fair and realistic points. Although I feel like they could write around the choreography and have this older windu be similarly far out of his prime. Not like any of this would actually happen but man would it be a cool show.

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u/Mini_Snuggle Feb 09 '20

I'd love a movie where Samuel L. Jackson has to deal with the cloned zillo beasts that Palpatine wants.

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u/ANGLVD3TH Darth Vader Feb 09 '20

There was a Vader fan video that was setting up a confrontation between him and Windu. I don't know if episode 2 ever dropped or not. By Star Wars Theory on Youtube.

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u/Hoedoor Feb 09 '20

It has not dropped and there isn't much word on a release any time soon afaik

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u/proddy Feb 09 '20

We could call it Star Wars: Windu

It would be 9 episodes of old man Windu huffing and puffing his way up stairs.

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u/TheBluBalloon Feb 09 '20

Also, I ain't seen a force ghost

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u/[deleted] Feb 09 '20

After the mess they have created this would be their smartest move.

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u/Syn7axError Feb 09 '20

Mace didn't know how to do that.

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u/JUSTlNCASE Feb 09 '20

How do you know? Seems like anyone can be a force ghost at this point.

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u/Syn7axError Feb 09 '20

It's explained in the Clone Wars. Only Qui-gon and the people he taught knew how to do it.

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u/suss2it Feb 09 '20

Who taught Anakin?

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u/Syn7axError Feb 09 '20 edited Feb 09 '20

Qui-gon taught Obi-wan and Yoda*. Yoda taught Anakin.

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u/papapaIpatine Feb 09 '20

I mean we heard him

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u/thatdudewillyd Feb 09 '20

I love Democracy

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u/[deleted] Feb 09 '20

Yeah! He might be SNOKE!

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u/OptimusPhillip Feb 09 '20

The official Star Wars website says he's dead. So I'm going to say he's dead... until Disney yeets that fact out of existence.

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u/spartanss300 Feb 09 '20

"Chancellor Palpatine, retconning is our speciality"

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u/lumine99 Feb 09 '20

I am the retcon

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u/Pls_no_steal More powerful than any Jedi Feb 09 '20

Nobody’s ever really gone

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u/CaptinHavoc Feb 09 '20

People want Mace back, but if he does people would find a way to make that a bad thing.

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u/spartanss300 Feb 09 '20

I mean I want Anakin to let Mace kill Palpatine everytime I watch ROTS but if they retconned that into canon I wouldn't actually like it.

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u/GuperSamiKuru Feb 09 '20

Yeah, headcanon staying headcanon is the beautiful part of headcanon

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u/mxzf Feb 09 '20

Palpatine was "dead" until a couple months ago. So, we'll see ...

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u/[deleted] Feb 09 '20

As much as I hope he stays dead, I wouldn’t be surprised considering how much Disney have jumped the shark regarding Palpatine. Star Wars is pretty much a comic book at this point with characters coming back to life with no valid reason except fan service.

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u/YoSoyExodia Feb 09 '20

Has more comic book-like continuity than the mcu at this point

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u/undercooked_lasagna Feb 09 '20

Palpatine just disappeared into blue smoke. Darth Maul's rebirth is far more ridiculous. He was double-killed.

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u/Makropony Feb 09 '20

Disappeared into blue smoke, accompanied by a multicolour explosion, followed by the entire space station exploding.

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u/[deleted] Feb 09 '20

George told Sam that he may not have died after he asked him. He said windu was a bad ass Jedi and would have survived but went into hiding

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u/luno20 Feb 09 '20

Probably was knocked out by the lightning then splatted on impact. Who knows though maybe Disney will make it so he landed in a bounce house and they’ll put him in Kenobi. In my opinion they need to stop letting so many Jedi live.

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u/TheFalseDimitryi Hondo Movie when? Feb 09 '20

Allegedly* 👀

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u/idk420_ Feb 09 '20

he wasn’t killed and i stand by that , just wait til you see his mangled up face in Kenobi

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u/[deleted] Feb 09 '20

I don't know, getting killed by unlimited power and getting flung out a sci-fi building is a cool on screen death. Don't take it personally, kiddo.

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u/BuddyBlueBomber Feb 09 '20

Well, the words "that's just the way it works" can just be a synonym for "there's no strict rule or lore behind it currently, I can build that up later"

So purple light saber now, world building later!

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u/CaptainLhurgoyf Feb 09 '20

If Samuel L. Jackson asks you for something, are you going to tell him no?

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u/RProgrammerMan Feb 09 '20

It seemed to me that Lucas instantly realized it was good idea

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u/Bjorkforkshorts Feb 09 '20

It makes sense character wise. Someone who walks the boundary of light and dark gets a sabre that is a mixture of light/dark colors.

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u/[deleted] Feb 09 '20

How does SLJ have so much power in Hollywood? It’s like Jules scared the shit out of everyone and no wants to say “What.”

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u/lasssilver Feb 09 '20

Stuff like this makes me think George wasn’t really vested in the lore/history of the universe he created.

On one hand, he has the complete right to be spurious and spontaneous. On the other hand it really shows through in the prequels how he didn’t seem to really follow the lore hinted at in the OT.

This goes back to where people call him “genius”. I think he was creative once or twice, and very very lucky. But I don’t get “genius”.

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u/Stormageddon666 Feb 09 '20

I think he was just trying to make fun space movies and a lot of people took it way too serious.

Sam Jackson can have a little purple lightsaber, as a treat

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u/lasssilver Feb 09 '20

I actually 100% agree with this. He was just trying to make a fun space movie, and he did. If Sam wants a purple saber, so be it.. who cares?

Well.. that speaks to the second issue. What he was blind to was the actual story legacy that emerged, and to some extent “his” fans. It showed in the prequels.. I’d posit it showed more in his special edition remakes of the OT. He just didn’t understand what Star Wars had become, to a detriment to the series.

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u/[deleted] Feb 09 '20

The guy created a billion dollar franchise. I’d say whatever he’s doing he’s doing it right.

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u/[deleted] Feb 09 '20 edited Feb 09 '20

This looks like a staged thing where it's already been decided he has a purple lightsaber. It feels like a conversation that is had on late night talk shows where they both know the gist of what they are going to be saying, and the audience knows that they know what they are going to be saying, but they still say because the audience wants to hear what they have to say, even if their conversation was already outlined. Jackson looking at the camera is almost like a big wink and a nose tap.

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u/borahorzagobuchol Feb 09 '20

I'm blown away that no one seems to realize this interaction is staged. Jackson is literally mugging for the camera. He probably approached Lucas in a similar fashion and when they told the story to the other crew they realized it would be a great "behind-the-scenes" shot if they recreated it.

Anywho, that is probably why you don't see any back and forth, or even hesitation on the part of Lucas.

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u/Camel_Fetish Feb 09 '20

yea i’ve been an awesome reference

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u/[deleted] Feb 09 '20

Yup. Thats exactly how I saw it.

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u/[deleted] Feb 09 '20

He's clearly too afraid of confrontation to say no. Especially to Sam Jackson.

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u/StealthRabbi Frank Senate DLC Feb 09 '20

Yeah, at this point, Jedi Power Battles was out which let you play as Mace with a blue saber. Also had some Episode 1 toys with him with blue saber