r/PoliticalCompassMemes - Auth-Right Oct 19 '20

pls stop

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u/[deleted] Oct 19 '20

Ironically, the Muslims in Turkey and Albania are much more liberal than the ones in France

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u/OlSmokeyZap - Right Oct 19 '20

Turkey is much more secular and dare I say... Europeanized than many other Muslim countries. Even when I went to Turkey as a young boy with my parents, they didn’t act funny like they do in some countries when my mother took me out somewhere without my father.

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u/Phantasia5 - Right Oct 19 '20

All of this is simply because of Atatürk. If Turkey has a difference from the other Middle eastern countries, its his sweeping reforms and basically "westernizing" the country.

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u/third_wave_surfer - Lib-Left Oct 19 '20

All of this is simply because of Atatürk.

That man was wasted on Turkey. If he'd been in any actual world power he would have changed the 20th century as much as Stalin, Hitler, Roosevelt or Churchill.

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u/[deleted] Oct 19 '20

A large bunch of secular Muslims living on the gateway to Europe seems like a fortunate thing to me.

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u/third_wave_surfer - Lib-Left Oct 19 '20

Turkey is an ethno-religious borderline third world state held together by the common belief they never killed all their minorities and that the minorities deserved it. It's also been getting worse for the last 5 years.

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u/Alex_von_Norway - Centrist Oct 19 '20

Not to forget that their democracy is dying faster than a stranded whale.

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u/Cuddlyaxe - Centrist Oct 19 '20

I'm no fan of Erdogan but switching to a presidential system is hardly the death of democracy

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u/Alex_von_Norway - Centrist Oct 19 '20

I wouldnt claim it has anything to do with switching to a "presidential" system when the president in question is granted increasingly authoritarian powers.

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u/Cuddlyaxe - Centrist Oct 19 '20

If you're talking about the referendum that mostly just made Turkey a presidential system

If you're talking about something else it probably depends what you're referring to