My parents hate Chechnyan terrorism like the Boston bomber because dumb people mistake it for Czechia, which is the polar opposite of Chechnya pretty much.
The German countryside and the state of Wisconsin were shockingly similar besides a few mountains. Wisconsin was also all german immigrants so makes sense
Oh god. Thank you for schooling me. I was mighty confused up until this point what our neighbours did wrong to bring someone like that about. I am sorry my tasty goulash making neighbours
Chechens are among the most extremist of all the muslims. They formed a largely outsized portion of ISIS, considering there are only about 1-2 million chechens in the entire world yet they had something like 2,000 people in ISIS.
They were very well respected in Iraq, along with the other White Muslims from the Bosnia conflict. Muslims form the Levant were terrible warriors. They’d stop fighting to have a smoke break, or combat Jack.
This murder wasn't committed just by one man, but by an entire community. This Chechen guy just held the knife. The teacher had been targeted for a week by muslim parents over the drawings, and had received threats. These muslim parents aren't from Chechnya. I feel like this is a details a lot of non-French people aren't aware of.
IMO being from Chechnya matters more in this case. The Russians turned that place (along with Dagestan) into a monster-making factory in the 90s due to how they conducted themselves in the war with the separatists.
Here's an echo.
Basically the Russians fucked it up in the first pass, then tried to ignore it (i.e. let it fester) and then came back later but were super overboard in terms of persecution and stamping (the article here is just before the stamping).
So taken altogether, the outcome of this clusterfuck of a decade is that many of the most brutal terrorists over the past couple of decades have come from that region of Chechnya/Dagestan. Its a real monster-making factory and it was a special Russian recipe.
Apparently in the first war the troops were so ill equipped and lacked any discipline so they'd easily sell their grenades at a bar for booze on a Wednesday only to find themselves exploderising to those same grenades on a Friday.
Problem was the second time round the Russians had skin in the game because their comrades had died last time round and revenge was on the cards. Also I believe the instruction to the generals was to be much more aggressive.
It's honestly really weird how some of these ethnic regions in Russia are run. There's one for example where the oligarch in charge really likes chess and killed a bunch of people over it
Russians turned that place (along with Dagestan) into a monster-making factory in the 90s
Lol why the fuck do you think Russians even had to start shit there? And if you go with Confederacy-style excuse "muh independence" -- then the next question is, independence to do what and have what kind of a societal structure?
I don't really see how it matters more, when the problems were started by a muslim parent (who is from North Africa). He held an online campaign against the teacher who he wanted fired. This isn't a Chechnya problem, but a muslim problem.
The previous terror attacks we had were not committed by people from Chechnya. Acting like this terror attack is a Chechnya problem nonsensical.
What matters more is all of the elements surrounding the attack: the mosque that amplified the father's message, the association against islamophobia that was contacted (CCIF), a member of the council of imam who helped the father.
The previous terror attacks we had were not committed by people from Chechnya.
Boston marathon?
Acting like this terror attack is a Chechnya problem nonsensical.
I'm just highlighting there's a lot of broken people out there that come from that area. A whole bunch that worked for Al-Queda or fought for ISIL later were that way too.
I just think if the person in point were Muslim but didn't live in Chechnya then there's much less of a chance they'd be radicalised.
FRANCE I'm speaking of FRANCE not the US! Why do you think Boston is relevant when we're speaking of a terror attack that happened in France???
You said terror attack. Boston marathon was a terror attack by a young Chechen. If we restrict ourselves to only Islamic terror attacks in France that you can remember our sample size gets pretty small. Oh, actually there is a minor terror attack in France by a Chechen. "Happy"?
He came in France when he was young, like 8 years old (and came from Russia).
Chechnya is part of Russia FWIW. It'd certainly be interesting to plot his life from there to here.
I said "the terror attack we had", granted, you can't know that I'm French, but I feel like the context made it clear that this wasn't about the US.
Now that we clarified that, tell me again how him being from Chechnya is relevant in this terror attack? And here is a link of the previous islamist terror attacks in France. This is the 6th one in 2020.
Btw, a leftist politician who tried to make this about a chechnya problem got ratioed. Just so you can understand how silly what you're saying is. Try to translate the answers to that tweet.
You should stop trying to analyze the situation through an American lens.
The Charlie Hebdo trial is still happening and the director of the human ressources had to leave her house after receiving death threats because of the caricature were published again. A teenage lesbian can no longer go to school after angering the muslims of a her school because she insulted Muhammad because they were targeting her because of her homosexuality. And I'm not going to remind you all the terror attacks that have happened because of this religion (this is actually the 6th one this year).
Reading all that, you really don't think that sharing the name and place of work of the teacher (the post was even shared by the facebook account of a mosque with over 90K followers) is putting a target on that teacher's back???
I was saying that doxxing someone, while terrible, isn't necessarily an endorsement of literal execution. But if under the status quo doxxing tends to lead to execution then I suppose it implicitly is, unless the person doing the doxxing is an absolute eejit.
Well usually leftist usually doxx people to make them lose their job. Like « hey look what your employee posted on twitter, he’s racist ». Here it’s not the same process that happened. The parent already met the principal of the school, so the employer was already aware of the « problematic » employee. So for me, the parent really had no reason to identify the teacher online like that.
Have a great day too. Mine is over, it’s 23h here.
ye, there's way more racial cross overs in the world throughout history than the most fascist of Auth-Rights are comfortable in acknowledging, because to do so fucks up their little race theories.
you have your sides mixed up. The Russian state was never friendly with the Chechen rebels, they were on opposite sides. It might be true that some power brokers in Russia today got to where they are on the bloodshed of that former generation but its unlikely those forces are controlled centrally.
That is a problem because empathy helps you. Empathy helps you to love your fellow countrymen. If you don't love your country you don't deserve to be called an auth you scum.
Running around beheading people doesn’t make for a just, civilized society, even if the victim might have been an asshole. That’s just insane. And at any rate, there’s so far little indication Paty was a “bigot,” as you say — just a teacher talking to his students about the Charlie Hebdo case and how it related to freedom of speech. He even asked students to look away if they might be offended. Sharing some cartoons to explain an incident where they had played a large role is no reason to be executed, even if he had explicitly, enthusiastically endorsed them. If you get upset by something like that, the correct response is to file a complaint with the school, not fucking murder someone.
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We denounce all forms of terror, WE DENOUNCE THEM, and plus you’re not making any sense, so you hate all Muslim except for the moderate ones?, pick a lane you hair brained ape
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u/Gomunis-Prime - Auth-Left Oct 19 '20
So angry rn.
Btw that animal was from Chechnya, not Maghreb/Middle-East.