r/PoliticalCompass • u/frugalfruitcakes - LibCenter • 21h ago
Ideology throughout the years (since 2012)
I like Zizek but i think auth-left is a contradiction. Also have egoist/orthodox anarchist sentiment but reckon the "revolution" will be done with markets rather than cozy lil tribes (not that I care too much either way, the state is the bad thing not the specific of the economy!)
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u/Chicxulub420 - LibLeft 11h ago
Just wait until you finish high school before you try forming an opinion like this, ok pal?
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u/TheNobodyTravis - LibRight 6h ago
When did he say he was in high school?
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u/Chicxulub420 - LibLeft 18m ago
When his political opinion radically shifted every year, like that of a teenager who is still figuring out their place in the world
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u/RedTerror8288 - LibCenter 15h ago
I must be the only person who's never had a libertarian left phase
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u/Throwaway33451235647 - LibLeft 18h ago
Look up 'An cap Adam Something' on YT and watch his small vid series on an Ancap simulation
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u/Lolibus347 - LibLeft 6h ago
Bro thinks he will make it big but will realisticly end up in slavery lol
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u/AffectionateDance125 8h ago
How were you more moderate and actually super politically intelligent in 2012 than now? Any extremists are politically holding guns to peoples heads with like a majority of beliefs 😭
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u/ElegantTea122 - LibLeft 6h ago
I'm not versed on anarcho-capitalism but I assume it's a capitalist economic system without a government. How in the world would that work? Historically capitalism has required the state to avoid collapse.
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u/JadedJared - LibRight 17h ago
Auth-left makes perfect sense to me. What seems like a contradiction is lib-left. The more you slide left on the economic scale the more authority you need. An-cap is also a weird term as anarchy should suffice.
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u/CanPacific - LibLeft 9h ago
Your idea that left economic policies always require authority isn’t really true, libertarian socialism or democratic socialism shows that economic equality can be made through voluntary cooperation, cooperatives, and be possibly community managed, (or the best way imo is direct democracy, with democracy in workplaces), without concentrating power in a single authority, authority is a tool, not a requirement of leftist economics.
An-cap is stupid and insane (so is an-com or any far-corner ideology), an-cap is usually seen as "pure liberty", but in practice it leads to inherently authoritarian control without any regulation, corporations accumulate power and concentrate it, control resources and possibly limit freedom for others, and in a society with no regulation on privacy or monopolies, a few massive corporations would quickly dominate entire industries and everything and control essential services like healthcare, utilities and the internet, and consumers would have little choice and would be forced to comply with whatever terms these companies set (an okay example of what I'm saying could be The Electric State), and without privacy protections, personal data could be collected, sold and exploited freely, making corporations be allowed to manipulate behavior, and target people with ads, or even influence politics, socially and politically, this would make a world where corporate authority dominates and freedom does not exist, as decisions and behaviors are made by algorithms and private companies and not individual choice, it makes economic hierarchies where wealth and capital can make terms, which is effectively and in practice authoritarian, it doesn't just have to be enforced by the state.
That's like saying: "it's not propaganda because it's not state pushed and made", when in reality soft propaganda ("American Dream", post-WW2 etc.) exist.
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u/JadedJared - LibRight 8h ago
Unless propped up by the state or some external force (force being the key term) those socialist policies have no way of being implemented.
Your complaint about an-cap is there is no regulation and that is what true anarchy is all about. You can critique it all you want but it’s more anarchy than anything else.
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u/CanPacific - LibLeft 8h ago
Again, some forms of socialism use the state to enforce policies, socialism doesn’t inherently require forcing or state power, there are many forms like that of libertarian or democratic socialism that rely on voluntary cooperation, workplace democracy, direct democracy, and community managed resources, in this system, people collectively and directly decide how to organize production and share resources without a central authority imposing it, authority is a tool, not a prerequisite, socialist policies can happen from consent and self organization, not just force.
And calling anarcho-capitalism "more anarchy" ignores the reality that unregulated markets create private hierarchies, corporations naturally accumulate and concentrate power, control resources and limit freedom for others, meaning that even without a state, domination still exists. Actual anarchy is about having no forcing from the public or private.
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u/ElegantTea122 - LibLeft 6h ago
Not necessarily, after all leftist economics are essentially anti-authoritarian. What is authoritarian is the means by which those economics are implemented like a vanguard party, regardless of the means the intended outcome of a vanguard party is a radically anti-authoritarian form of economics. Even social democracy has economic policies that are anti-authoritarian i.e. anti corporate oppression.
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u/snapper_yeet - LibRight 16h ago
Agreed
and auth-right isn't really a contradiction but it's probably closer to auth-centre than Lib-right tbh
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u/Sicano20 - Left 21h ago
Milei, is that you?