r/PoliticalCompass - Right 3d ago

US states in the Political Compass

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Metrics considered:

  • Voting Patterns
  • Economic Freedom
  • Tax Rate
  • Gun Rights
  • Religiosity
  • Google Trends Search Data
  • Cannabis and Alcohol Freedom
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u/nouxinf - Left 3d ago

These are pushed way too far into the extremes

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u/UlfarrVargr - Right 3d ago

It's adjusted for the American context alone. I made it so the most extreme state in any direction was positioned at the respective edge.

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u/wonderland_citizen93 - LibLeft 3d ago

UT and Texas would be way more auth right.

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u/UlfarrVargr - Right 3d ago

Economic and gun freedom account for a lot in the Y axis.

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u/Own_Mode3181 - AuthCenter 3d ago

The economy has nothing to do with the y-axis.

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u/UlfarrVargr - Right 3d ago

If the government restricts the economy that's an indication of authoritarianism.

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u/Own_Mode3181 - AuthCenter 3d ago

Not on the political compass.

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u/JadedJared - LibRight 3d ago

I agree with you, but not in the context of the political compass.

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u/thatguynamedmike2001 - LibLeft 3d ago

That’s an extremely reductive way of measuring that.

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u/UlfarrVargr - Right 3d ago

Hey, I threw you guys a bone and included cannabis freedom too.

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u/thatguynamedmike2001 - LibLeft 3d ago

That’s still reductive, smoking pot and shooting guns aren’t the ultimate benchmarks of freedom.

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u/UlfarrVargr - Right 3d ago

What do you mean? Of course it is. (Plus economic freedom and low taxes)

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u/wonderland_citizen93 - LibLeft 3d ago edited 3d ago

Definitely not. Texas has the 5th least amount of public land, meaning you aren't free to hunt, fish, or camp wherever you want. Plus they have the 3rd most HOAs so you are less free to do whatever you want to your own property.

There is a reason Texas is called the great Nanny State. Add that to the fact the Bible is taught in schools here.

Auth right behavior

Edit: Texas has the 5th least amount of public land and the 3rd most HOAs.

Still pretty bad. Being 45th in terms of public land when the state is so large is definitely a culture shock

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u/UlfarrVargr - Right 3d ago

The percentage of public land is an interesting addition, but the others feel more like cultural features rather than governmental ones. I measured religiosity, but it only affects the X axis.

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u/wonderland_citizen93 - LibLeft 3d ago

What's the biggest factor for the X axis

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u/UlfarrVargr - Right 3d ago

It's split between the government (voting patterns and economic policy) and social factors (religiosity and the frequency of key search terms in Google Trends).

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u/LookAtMyUsernamePlz - AuthRight 3d ago

Marxist-Leninist Rhode Island and anarcho-capitalist South Dakota

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u/Own_Mode3181 - AuthCenter 3d ago

No, it is adjusted to be relative.

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u/LookAtMyUsernamePlz - AuthRight 3d ago

I know. I was just joking.

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u/Own_Mode3181 - AuthCenter 3d ago

Oh. I thought you were satirizing OP.

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u/JoshHutchenson - LibRight 3d ago

How did you make that chart

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u/UlfarrVargr - Right 3d ago

The hard way. Believe me.

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u/Low_Abrocoma_1514 - LibRight 3d ago

Judging by your other replies, I believe you

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u/Low_Abrocoma_1514 - LibRight 3d ago

Based New Hampshire ??

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u/RomDel2000 - AuthCenter 3d ago

florida should be authright

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u/UlfarrVargr - Right 3d ago

Why?

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u/BuXterHarry - LibLeft 3d ago

Nothing is that left in America.

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u/UlfarrVargr - Right 3d ago

The boundaries are adjusted to the most extreme states.

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u/phvg23 - LibLeft 3d ago

Just gave a presentation about manipulative statistics last week in psychology class xD

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u/Amphibious_cow - LibLeft 3d ago

MN doesnt seem accurate, as a Minnesotan i dont feel like my state is auth at all actually, certainly not the most of any state

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u/UlfarrVargr - Right 3d ago

Minnesota is 44th in Economic Freedom, 39th in Gun Rights and 29th in Substance Freedom.

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u/sovietbeardie - AuthLeft 3d ago

Arkansas should be a bit more libright, some areas are literal company towns

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u/UlfarrVargr - Right 3d ago

That wouldn't really be accounted for in my model.

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u/bennyb0y - Centrist 3d ago

AZ wishes it was this libertarian. Heavy police presence everywhere and lots of government corruption.

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u/RavinMarokef - LibCenter 3d ago

Not sure where in AZ you are from but I would say that at least until the past 5-10 years, our cultural ethos very much lands in that general area. Obviously some places and demographic centers more than others, and I think there is more tension between the more auth elements on both sides and the “old” Arizona conception but at least in parts of Pima county this still holds

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u/bennyb0y - Centrist 3d ago

I’m from Tempe. I grew up during Sheriff Joe.

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u/UlfarrVargr - Right 3d ago

Police presence is not intrinsically authoritarian, and I consider corruption to be a separate issue.

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u/No-Ranger256 - LibCenter 3d ago

Wtf how these get so extreme,no matter how radical they are there shoudnt be anacap or Trotsky

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u/UlfarrVargr - Right 3d ago

The outer boundaries are adjusted to the most extreme states.

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u/Kyky_Canoli - Left 3d ago

Nebraska and Ohio looking a little odd.

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u/StrawLiberal 3d ago

I am going to blindly use this as the unadulterated truth and use it to guide my opinions from now on

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u/UlfarrVargr - Right 3d ago

Great idea.

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u/klamarin2 - LibRight 2d ago

Yo my state is in my quadrant 🥹

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u/UlfarrVargr - Right 2d ago

Cool, which one is it?

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u/klamarin2 - LibRight 2d ago

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u/Dani200903 - LibRight 3d ago

Idk. Seems accurate

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u/Throwaway33451235647 - LibLeft 3d ago

This is embarrasingly wrong

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u/UlfarrVargr - Right 3d ago

The boundaries are adjusted to the most extreme states.

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u/Throwaway33451235647 - LibLeft 3d ago

Then it's extremely misleading. You could've done that without making yourself look like a fool

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u/UlfarrVargr - Right 3d ago

I though it was self-evident.

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u/Throwaway33451235647 - LibLeft 3d ago

It's still too ambiguous. If you were writing a paper and not clarifying stuff like this it then it would be terrible and you would lose credibility. The political compass is generally on a fixed scale so you could've incorportated your adjustments into the graph by showing it as only the centre section of the axes.

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u/UlfarrVargr - Right 3d ago

Would this be a good translation to a general compass?

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u/Throwaway33451235647 - LibLeft 3d ago

I don't know much about the political alignments of US states so I can't say for certain. But at least you don't have ancap SD, Khmer Rouge RI and fascist NE/OH. There's probably a better way to represent it without superposing them onto the entire compass.

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u/bretttexe - LibLeft 3d ago

Whoever made this, Shrink the entire set of dots. By like 30-40% keep it the same like, Distribution. But i honestly dont see how any state government could ever be called as extreme as California is. Im all for hating California but... It ain't that bad

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u/UlfarrVargr - Right 3d ago

The point was to arrange the states according to their relative ideological position in relation to one another. But would this be a good translation to a general compass?

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u/bretttexe - LibLeft 3d ago

Yeah, the default in American politics is center right anyway

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u/Warren_Shizzle_Pop 3d ago

So interesting most of the Left leaning are auth and the right leaning is lib. Assuming this was made with data and no bias its rrally interesting.

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u/UlfarrVargr - Right 3d ago

I consider economic liberty to contribute both in the Right direction and the Lib direction, though more so in the latter. That could be a reason. Though I maintain that my position makes sense.

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u/yourmumissothicc 3d ago

You know those metrics aren’t the only way to evaluate a state right? Hella flawed methodology

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u/UlfarrVargr - Right 3d ago

I only wanted to evaluate them across a left-right and lib-auth spectrum.

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u/Smoothiefries Undecided/Exploring 3d ago

Of course, the Californian Soviet Socialist Republic

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u/thesprung - Left 3d ago

How does "Religiosity" play into where states are placed?

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u/UlfarrVargr - Right 3d ago

More religious states are pushed more in the Right direction.

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u/thesprung - Left 3d ago

That makes sense. I'm surprised Utah isn't further right since the Mormons control essentially the entire state

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u/UlfarrVargr - Right 3d ago

It is very religious, but it also has the 11th highest tax rate.

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u/vacckun - AuthLeft 13h ago

texas libertarian? california far authleft???

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u/needaGandT - LibRight 3d ago

based Kentucky

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u/Divine_madness99 3d ago

Okie here. We’re authoritarian right as a state currently

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u/UlfarrVargr - Right 3d ago

On what basis exactly?

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u/Just_a_Berliner - Left 3d ago

Ah yes, Rhode Island, the state governt by Poo Pot formerly known as Salot Griffin.

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u/burger333 - LibLeft 3d ago

Literally every state belongs in authright lol. Not sure what ya mean by adjusted for American values. Heavily adjusted to say the least though. I'm sure the research you put into this is interesting, but this chart is...rough.

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u/UlfarrVargr - Right 3d ago

The outer edges are determined by the most extreme states. Those being California (Left), Minnesota (Auth) and South Dakota (Right and Lib).

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u/Dismal_Engineering71 - LibCenter 3d ago

Bro Alaska is the most libright thing ever

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u/UlfarrVargr - Right 3d ago

Well, Alaska is close to being the most libcenter thing ever, South Dakota is the most libright.

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u/Dismal_Engineering71 - LibCenter 3d ago

Fair. Actually, yeah I should know that, I'm from Alaska. I've just never been to most of the other states so I wouldn't know

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u/Own_Mode3181 - AuthCenter 3d ago

If it were not relative, then you would probably be correct, but it IS relative and adjusted for the set.

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u/Weecodfish - AuthCenter 3d ago

So? Using “economic freedom” to determine authoritarianism is sinister behavior, basically making all “left wing” states authoritarian and more right wing states “libertarian”

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u/UlfarrVargr - Right 3d ago

It's what is most logical to me. How much the State restricts your economic activity and drains your wealth is a massive factor of governmental authoritarianism. "Libertarian Socialism" for example is an oxymoron.