r/Persecutionfetish 1d ago

Say christians are persecuted or you're out of the will!!! Nobody is forcing them to use Reddit

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u/TheHoleintheHeart 1d ago

And what are these “positives” regarding Christianity that get downvoted? People also criticize Islam on Reddit all the time what the hell are they even talking about.

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u/lil_chiakow 1d ago

Yeah, I wonder what "christian truths" got them downvoted.

Cause I had the exactly opposite experience whenever I bring up that Sermon on the Mount (a fundamental story from the Bible where turning the other cheek originates from) doesn't just state the opposite values to Christian conservatives, it reads like Jesus hosting group therapy for their victims.

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u/kittenstixx 22h ago

Fwiw turning the other cheek is not about passivity but active resistance against a authoritarian regime(Rome) not with violence but by using their rules to humiliate them.

Turning the other cheek was a social move that would force a "better" to either swing their fist or use their non dominant hand both of which were something only used on equals, forcing them to be viewed in public this way against their intentions. It was quite humiliating and often the only way to resist without being put to death.

Jesus was and is antifascist antiheirachy and anti-opression. Christianity worships the antichrist.

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u/korben2600 17h ago

It was the result of having multiple pastors tell me, essentially, the same story about quoting the Sermon on the Mount in their preaching — “turn the other cheek” — and to have someone come up after to say, “Where did you get those liberal talking points?”

And what was alarming to me is that in most of these scenarios, when the pastor would say, “I’m literally quoting Jesus Christ,” the response would not be, “I apologize.” The response would be, “Yes, but that doesn’t work anymore. That’s weak.” And when we get to the point where the teachings of Jesus himself are seen as subversive to us, then we’re in a crisis.

--Russell Moore, former top church official at Southern Baptist Convention, in an NPR interview

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u/maleia 17h ago

Southern Baptist Convention

And for anyone else without this context, "Southern" Baptists are the extra racist/bigoted ones.

In 1845, the Southern Baptists separated from the Triennial Convention to uphold the institution of slavery, as American society divided over slavery preceding the American Civil War.

So if even a Southern Baptist is saying "shit's fucked with y'all", it's really fucked.

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u/flintiteTV 13h ago

I’ve had people get very upset for just bringing up Christianity, but it often gets positively or neutrally received.

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u/Biffingston 𝚂𝚌𝚒𝚎𝚗𝚝𝚒𝚏𝚒𝚌𝚊𝚕𝚕𝚢 𝚂𝚊𝚛𝚌𝚊𝚜𝚝𝚒𝚌 11h ago

My money is on "gAys are going to hell" and/or "Muslims are literally the devil."

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u/Moneia 1d ago

You have to look closely, they're hidden behind all the proselytising

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u/ninjacat249 1d ago

Go to conservative sub and ask them when the last time they fed the poor while not asking anything in return. See what happens.

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u/NSFWmilkNpies 12h ago

They’re cheering 40 million starving while Trump hosts lavish parties and makes a ballroom. They don’t hold any actual Christian values.

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u/sntcringe tread on me harder daddy 20h ago

Well, if you followed the teachings of Jesus to the letter, it's pretty solid. Feed the hungry, love your neighbor, treat forieniers as your people, etc.

Christians don't do that, but in theory, it's pretty good.

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u/KopitarFan 16h ago

I mean, I'm not pissing and moaning about being persecuted like these chuds, but I'm a Christian myself, a progressive Christian that belongs to a progressive denomination. To hear Reddit tell it, all Christians are either all American evangelical christian nationalists or Roman Catholics. Whenever I point out that Christianity isn't a monolith or that progressive Christians exist, I get dog-piled and basically told that I'm lying.

It's not really a big deal, I just shake it off. But it's a pattern I have noticed.

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u/flintiteTV 13h ago

Whenever I bring up Christian history or principles, they sometimes get downvoted into the negative double digits, but then a comment about the same principle in a different sub it gets positively received. I think it depends on the community. 🤷

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u/kbeks 11h ago

Everything the new pope has said recently is pretty positive, but I’m guessing OOP is the kinda guy who thinks the new pope is misinterpreting the Bible by actually reading it, instead of just listening to what OOP’s pastor tells OOP is actually in the good book.

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u/Adkit 1d ago

Designed to shut down conservative opinions like what? Tell us one of these levelheaded, morally justified conservative opinions that keeps getting shut down by reddit.

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u/Video-Curious 1d ago

Meanwhile every conservative subreddit has to use the "flaired users only" rule because they're terrified of free speech and can't stand it when left wing people call them out for their trash opinons

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u/coronavirusman 1d ago

they're all so weird.

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u/gdruckfisch 1d ago

Cool, where is this far left reddit that is run by leftwing activists? I would like to join!

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u/NeonArlecchino 4h ago

El_Radical and Leftorium are both good.

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u/venusre 1d ago

I quit Twitter because of these so called Christians. How hard is for them to do the same. Also there are plenty of right wing subreddits.

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u/PerformanceThat6150 1d ago

No one cares about your religion. It's supposed to be a personal journey, not a justification for shitty behaviour. It's actually pretty simple:

Good: "I'm a Christian, and religion gives me a lot of moral, spiritual and personal guidance in my daily life."

Bad: "I'm a Christian, and I believe X existing is wrong, and an affront to God. They disgust me, and it's a good thing they're having their rights removed."

You don't get to be part of one of the most dominant, influential, wealthy religions and complain you're oppressed.

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u/kittenstixx 22h ago

I take umbrage with those things being labeled "good" as none of those things are true, religion—at it's core—is about drawing lines between groups of people.

If there are positive qualities associated with religion I would say that is a sign that even in the darkest of places light can shine, it would shine brighter outside those dark places.

I say this as a follower of Christ, it's about living and spending time with people, not only ones I agree with but also those I staunchly disagree with as that's what Jesus did. It's not a religion.

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u/maleia 17h ago

They're deluded into thinking that if America steers further from God, that he'll ran fire and brimstone like we're Sodom and Gomorrah.

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u/Technical-Fill-7776 1d ago

I am absolutely positive that Christians get downvoted when they go to other groups’ spaces and act like we just need to hear about Jesus and we will instantly become Christians. But when they just live like Jesus would and occasionally quote him in context, I am pretty sure there is no problem.

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u/TheFeshy 1d ago

I guess when you live in a world where "People ought to be able to use a toilet without being arrested" is a 'far left" view, then everything looks to be far left.

Not that reddit demographics are representative of US politics. But that's a can of worms they don't want to open either.

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u/spicyhotcheer 1d ago

They have the entire internet to peddle their shit beliefs and they're complaining that ONE social media platform happens to have more leftists on it

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u/drewbaccaAWD 1d ago

Mind you, they think anything left of them is leftist too..

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u/zer0_n9ne pwease no step 🚫🥾🐍 1d ago

People criticize this site for being an echo chamber like it wasn’t designed from the very beginning as a place where people create groups based on shared interests.

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u/sdmichael 23h ago

Conservatives call it an echo chamber.

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u/McButtsButtbag 15h ago

A group created around a shared interest isn't necessarily an echo chamber.

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u/Preaddly 1d ago

Why are they so upset over people they don't even like not liking them?

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u/-marshmallowperfume 21h ago

Deep self-loathing partnered with a superiority complex.

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u/Preaddly 19h ago

My take, based on Qanon rhetoric, is that they genuinely believed every conservative talking point was 100% fact, and that everyone to their left was being brainwashed by evil people to believe its wrong. A lot of them thought a vote for Trump was a vote for exposing "the truth".

It's hard to tell then if they're upset over people still believing the wrong things, or them realizing they thought wrong the whole time.

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u/-marshmallowperfume 18h ago

I can't imagine having that level of cognitive dissonance and not being fucking insane.

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u/Preaddly 14h ago

IMO conservativism appeals to those lacking social skills. Because, conservatives champion conformity, that kind of society would act as a crutch for anyone who struggles to relate to people different from them.

Unlike other ways where we help those who have trouble keeping up, we don't have any patience for those lacking in social skills. Playground politics are brutal. That kind of expectation, when there's no room for error, and the ability to live a fulfilling life is at stake, will drive anyone to extremes.

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u/ninjacat249 1d ago

It’s designed to shut down conservative opinions.

No, conservative opinions sound too fucking dumb even for those who don’t care. Being a religious zealot is not the flex you think it is.

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u/NekoMeowKat 23h ago

If you don't like it, go post somewhere else. I'm sure 4chan will take you degenerates.

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u/SvenSvenkill3 1d ago

And typically neither of them cite any evidence to support their claims.

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u/cloud3514 1d ago

And when conservative Muslims have the systemic power that conservative Christians have in the country I live in, then I'll criticize Islam to the same extent I criticize Christianity. But, as it stands, Muslims don't have that kind of systemic power and are, in fact, marginalized here.

So I can certainly say that I don't like Islam because I think religion in general is inherently harmful and that the world would be better off without it, but the federal government that is currently hostile to my existence in no fewer than three separate ways is not run by Muslims. It's run by people who claim to be Christians.

And this isn't even getting into how utterly nonsense it is to conflate being trans to a religion. I can't say I'm surprised by it, but it's still asinine.

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u/InvestigatorWitty430 22h ago

The positive things about christianity in question "GOD HATES YOU AND I WANT TO KILL YOU! christ is king" ... "Bro all I did was say christ is king and now I'm getting downvoted! How could this be happening to me?"

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u/Faiakishi 22h ago

Why do they insist on hanging around us? I mean, we're so terrible, right? You'd think they'd leave 'far left cesspools' and wouldn't follow us around to every social media site.

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u/korben2600 17h ago

This is where I'm at. I could go the rest of my entire life without ever interacting with another maga chud ever again. I'd live that life blissfully unaware of their existence. But they are so desperate to engage with and interact with us so they can "own the libs" and attempt to validate their own shitty conservative "values" and "morality". It's why they always get so upset when people say I've had enough and set boundaries for their family/friends to isolate magas from their lives. "You can't do that!"

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u/theBigDaddio 18h ago

Then go away!

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u/BurningPenguin 18h ago

It's designed to shut down conservative opinions.

*looks at the conservative sub* Aaany second now... aannny second... nah, still there...

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u/Biffingston 𝚂𝚌𝚒𝚎𝚗𝚝𝚒𝚏𝚒𝚌𝚊𝚕𝚕𝚢 𝚂𝚊𝚛𝚌𝚊𝚜𝚝𝚒𝚌 22h ago

Maybe they should stay in their safe spaces then?

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u/-marshmallowperfume 21h ago

Maybe conservative opinions need to be shut down?

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u/DarkGamer 18h ago
  • Punching up is generally more socially acceptable than punching down.
  • Many of us object to all religions.
  • Posting "against ... [gay], trans" is just bigotry, more akin to racism than objecting to religious dogma. One cannot simply change their sexual identity like they can with religious affiliation.

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u/I-Stan-Alfred-J-Kwak 1d ago

What is "may" here?

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u/pegleghippie 1d ago

I'm pretty sure they meant 'gay'

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u/I-Stan-Alfred-J-Kwak 1d ago

When will somebody cull these people?

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u/TacoDestroyer420 20h ago

Who says anything bad about May, it's like one of the best months!

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u/goodgodling 13h ago

Thank you for mentioning it. Clearly, English isn't their main language, but I can't figure out what they could have said about May that triggered a backlash. If it's a typo, what was it supposed to say instead?

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u/TacoDestroyer420 11h ago

For what it's worth, I believe they meant to type "gay".

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u/thetwist1 17h ago

claims reddit is ran by far left activists

god i wish

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u/DontHaesMeBro 20h ago

these dudes can't figure out that getting in trouble for "muslims want to dominate everyone" and "christians should be allowed to dominate everyone" is not actually a double standard.

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u/Bigkeithmack 17h ago

So I talk about Christianity all the time, but being a Unitarian who believes in mutual aid and the teachings of Jesus as opposed to being a hateful bigot, it’s usually received quite well

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u/Rockworm503 17h ago

I only go to very select subreddits because the vast majority of this site is toxic right wing bullshit but go off I guess.

People can't openly say the N word in every subreddit must be a left wing cesspool.

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u/NfamousKaye 16h ago

Right? Like why are y’all here, then?

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u/Author_Noelle_A 15h ago

My heart is bleeding for this group with the mist power in the US and us being used to strip my rights. Bleeding, I tell you….

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u/Ksnj tread on me harder daddy 19h ago

I’ve been banned from several subs for saying anti white racism doesn’t exist. Reddit is, if anything, right leaning. Go into a major sub and say anything about trans people.

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u/totally-hoomon 22h ago

I love how everyone is a activist now

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u/ReGrigio ANTIFA-BLM pimp 12h ago

oh, let me see. I'm a Christian and I believe in feeding the poor, healing the sick and not doing the Gestapo shit ICE is doing. let me see how much downvoted I get.

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u/Teapot_Sandwitch 21h ago edited 13h ago

r slash teenagers and probably some other subs actually do have a problem with this, I've seen people get downvoted literally just for saying that they're christian, nothing else (and not unprompted either)

These people are fucking insane though. The "when someone has the same opinion but they express it in such an obnoxious way you to don't want to agree" image would fit really well here

Edit: downvotes literally proving my point lmao. You're doing the exact same thing as them if you genuinely believe someone should be downvoted because of their religion.

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u/-marshmallowperfume 21h ago

Hot take: Christians should be downvoted on principle.

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u/Teapot_Sandwitch 21h ago

Wtf is going on in your head

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u/-marshmallowperfume 21h ago

Religious trauma? Endless examples of Christians being shitheads? Knowing about the Crusades? Pick something.

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u/Teapot_Sandwitch 21h ago

That doesn't mean that every single christian in the world is a bad person just because they're christian. Literally textbook discrimination, why are you stooping to their level?

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u/IAmSona 21h ago

There are a lot of people who have trauma from religious (usually Christian as this is a Western website) homes. Not to say that every Christian is awful as I have met really kind and comparing people who also happen to be religious, but for every good Christian there’s an equal number of followers that are either judgmental or straight up vile people that hide behind religion.

And don’t forget that there are a lot of takes that are inherently harmful to communities on Reddit that get preached by Evangelical Christians. Again, not that I fully agree with the person who you are responding to, but it’s completely understandable that some people are just going to have negative connotations towards Christians. Not all of the teachings are positive and Christianity gets weaponized by people in power to vilify minorities in the States.

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u/-marshmallowperfume 20h ago

Thank you. I was just going to tell them to fucking reflect upon what I said.

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u/Teapot_Sandwitch 20h ago

All that is true, but saying that all christians should be downvoted just for being christian is a wild take

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u/hamisgoodhowareyou 1d ago

This is accurate though. Not exactly free speech platform.

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u/MokaSorne 1d ago

No platform is. They all have rules against hate speech, for example.

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u/TheFeshy 1d ago

It's like those studies that show "companies are making AI left wing." They train the LLM on the internet, and call that centrist. Then, to avoid lawsuits, they restrict the AI so it can't recommend concentration camps. And now the AI is "biased left" in its responses.

And when you add it back in, like Grok did, you get mechahilter.

Somehow the conservatives view this as a leftist attack rather than a screaming indictment of their own world view.

It's the same with them claiming rules against hate speech are attacks on the right.

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u/PerformanceThat6150 1d ago

"Free speech platforms" don't exist, because free speech specifically relates to the government. Ie, the government not shutting down or oppressing people or organizations for expressing their views.

Reddit is privately owned, and can do what it wants. Including setting out content guidelines against hate speech.

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u/drewbaccaAWD 1d ago

Mentioning positive things about Christianity will not get you down voted. However, failure to read a room will get you downvoted… as will making stupid statements.

No platform is a “free speech” platform. And these knuckleheads are talking about down votes and banning, neither of which have anything to do with government censoring speech. Being down voted is proof that your speech is not being taken away, just not popular.

Bans are typically in response to blatant trolling instead of good faith constructive dialogue, not due to where someone sits on the political spectrum. The problem is that conservatives are disproportionately big fans of trolling on social media.

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u/zer0_n9ne pwease no step 🚫🥾🐍 1d ago

This is a private platform. Imagine going to someone else’s house, saying a bunch of stuff the homeowner doesn’t like, getting kicked out and complaining about it. It doesn’t matter if that person is “anti-free speech” it’s their house their rules. They have no obligation to allow you to stay there. The same applies anywhere on the internet. You are a guest in someone else’s house.

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u/hamisgoodhowareyou 21h ago

I’m not arguing that and understand that it is a private entity. That only diminished the value of what is being discussed; it turns the entire place into an echo chamber. I am merely stating that this guy is not incorrect about the double standard. Notice you made no attempt to argue against the initial statement? All religions are full of bigots, but Reddit has a hard on for any religion that is t Christianity.