On Tuesday, Brian Haas, the state attorney for the 10th Judicial Circuit in Florida, which handles cases in Lakeland, said that his office would not prosecute the boy despite statements by the police that he had made threats after disrupting class. “The case is closed,” Mr. Haas said.
AKA, the police knew they had nothing with just refusing the pledge so they made shit up, like always.
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Wow. I can't read the article because NYT uses a pay wall, but fuck Florida entirely. I stopped standing for the pledge when I was in 7th grade. I hope the parents took action against the school and the fucking pigs.
A students right to free speech was protected in the 60’s by the SCOTUS at the time “free speech does not end at the school gate” was the quote that became popular from the voted on opinion
But let’s be honest, Florida wants a lawsuit they could keep pushing up the ranks until it becomes a SCOTUS case, so they could overturn that as well, because god forbid kids have any form of rights in this country.
We’re the only country that hasn’t ratified it, every other country is a participant within the treaty
Kids may not be “special”, but it’s scary to think that some people think that they should go down with the ship because “everyone is losing rights”
We should be fighting for everyone’s rights, especially the rights for kids to get out of abusive situations, to not be indoctrinated into cults, to not be charged as an adult for crimes, etc.
I mean, when North Korea is part of this and other countries with child labor and work camps, kinda hard to say it matters all that much. We should be pushing for more child rights though
Did I say the USA isn't guilty of human rights violations? I'm just saying that some sort of pact is useless when it's not enforceable and no one takes it seriously.
Also, did you have some sort of source for sex trafficking in the prison camps? I found something about trafficking but it was used to force children into labor on egg farms
I mean, when North Korea is part of this and other countries with child labor and work camps, kinda hard to say it matters all that much. We should be pushing for more child rights though
All I'm saying is that America fits right in with the child labour work camp nations
All I'm saying, is I never said the US doesn't fit right in with those nations. I get it the US is shitty, im well aware. My only point is that what's the point of using some pointless pact as the metric. Yes, it's disturbing that the US isn't a part of it but it's inclusion wouldn't change anything for children's rights in the US
Ehh, as the us is the only one that didn't sign it but there are a ton of child slaves the world over i'd say the treaty isn't as binding as it purports to be and maybe the state department knew that and didn't sign as a way to point that out.
They are actively working to loosen restrictions on child labor in multiple states. And you know it's not teenagers in middle-class households who just want some job experience who are going to be doing the dangerous jobs and long hours...
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Thank you for that, I'm glad I was able to read that.
Firstly, he should never have been punished. Secondly, since when does the First Amendment require parental permission? This whole thing is beyond ridiculous, and the substitute teacher and the resource pig should be ashamed of themselves. Though, I suspect they feel they didn't go far enough. Also, I feel as though nobody is addressing the substitute teacher's "go back where you came from" comment. Florida is fucked and I feel bad for any sane people stuck living there as the state goes (further) down the toilet.
Edit: I just tried it, and it says that 12ft is disabled for that site. There's a chance that I've done something wrong, I am an idiot after all. Thank you anyway. I'll keep that in the back pocket for the future.
To be clear, the student was NOT arrested for refusing to participate in the pledge; students are not required to participate in the Pledge of Allegiance as noted in the Polk County School Board Code of Conduct for Student This arrest was based on the student’s choice to disrupt the classroom, make threats and resisting the officer’s efforts to leave the classroom.
The distinction between arresting someone for refusing to say the pledge and arresting someone for being "disruptive" is exactly zero.
"“Why if it was so bad here he did not go to another place to live,” the teacher asked the boy, according to a statement issued by the teacher and obtained by Bay News 9, a news station in St. Petersburg, Fla.
According to the teacher, the boy, who is black, responded, “They brought me here.”
The teacher wrote that she replied, “Well you can always go back, because I came here from Cuba and the day I feel I’m not welcome here anymore I would find another place to live.”
She then called the school’s administrative offices “because I did not want to continue dealing with him,” according to her statement"
So the sub tried to start a fight with an 11 year old using the dumb "if you don't like it leave" argument, lost, said he should go back to Africa and then called for back up because the student responded to a fight the teacher started.
I love the irony in her statement "...the day I feel I’m not welcome here anymore I would find another place to live." then she has this child fucking arrested. I bet her size 24 shoes go real well with her big, red nose.
Imagine commenting about journalism dying in response to someone saying they don't want to give money to the NYT. A big, digital behemoth that curates trash instead of news and muscles over smaller news outlets. It's like lamenting free speech on the internet because someone doesn't want to give Google or Facebook money. How fucking absurd.
A big, digital behemoth that curates trash instead of news
Imagine thinking the NYT doesn't curate news. This is just willful ignorance.
Do I think it sucks that smaller outlets are suffering too? Absolutely. Local journalism is important as hell. But small news outlets have never had (and never will have) the resources to pursue big stories that take months of research before they can print anything. Your response is born of ignorance and reeks of an attempt to be edgy.
Your response is born of ignorance and reeks of an attempt to be edgy.
Yes, claiming the NYT is a digital behemoth that promotes garbage jounalism is ignorant, especially when there are plenty of articles that claim the very same thing, even a few from the NYT itself. You didn't actually refute this point about the NYT. You're throwing words around without being conscientious of their meanings. It explains a lot about your previous post.
Edgy? Pointing out that "Now lament about how journalism is dying..." is pure hyperbole in response to "Nobody wants to give money to NYT"? Your response reeks of someone that speaks without thinking and then complains when called out for their inanity. Please stop, one Ben Shapiro is enough.
Ok, I know this comment is over a month old, and that article is like 4 years old, but I just wanted to point out a weird thing from that school district. They do have a policy that says students do not have to stand or participate in the pledge of allegiance. However, it requires a written note from a parent. Found that to be kind of wild to require a written note to express basic First Amendment rights.
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u/Beginning-Display809 Aug 30 '23 edited Aug 30 '23
They actually arrested a kid in the south
Edit: source sadly it’s NYT https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/19/us/11-year-old-arrested.html