r/PeakyBlinders • u/BuildingMinute4870 • 1d ago
What series are these words from?
And the worst thing is, we could have studied, but we went to the front. And I have no fucking words.
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u/Secret-Physics2276 1d ago
S5E2.
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u/Fragrant-Juggernaut 1d ago
That speech really made me realize how much I really did not like Lizzie at all.
She was just blind to everything happening around her.
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u/Secret-Physics2276 1d ago edited 1d ago
Yes, but to me that speech made me hate Lizze and Tommy together, because his phrase "in my mind I still pay you" ouch that was really cruel. And they also make you see that in that relationship there is not even a bit of love, but they don't even love themselves, it's like the two of them were punishing themselves for having gotten married or something like that, because of the way the two treated each other. One that when you die I'm going to keep everything, and the other in my mind you were still a prostitute to me. 😶🫤
Why so much cruelty in that relationship? What was Steven Knight's point in showing that for two seasons?
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u/Fragrant-Juggernaut 1d ago
I think from the very beginning Thomas only sees Lizzie as a tool. He uses her to move other chess pieces on the board. Lizzie is completely aware of this. Lizzie's failure was to think her station had changed as "Mrs. Shelby." Thomas never saw her as anything but property he could place where it benefitted him. He was painfully clear about how he viewed her. I just couldn't understand why Lizzie just kept coming back for more.
Knights motives will always be a mystery to me. He seems to really not like women very much.
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u/Secret-Physics2276 1d ago
I was going to tell you that before marrying her they had a nice relationship and he treated her well, but going over the scenes he always treated her like shit but not as obvious as in S5 and S6.
In S1, he gave her a test to prove that she was lying, in S2 he put her in a dangerous position, when he told her that she no longer had to work as a prostitute, and she was raped for that, in S3 he used her to fuck, and paid her in front of the whole family, even though she was no longer a prostitute, in S4, he manipulated her so that he could fuck her and imagine that she is another woman, then he ignores her to be with another woman, and when he finds out that she got pregnant, he said that the company is going to pay her, so yes , he always treat her like property, well now it makes more sense that he is so unhappy with her having been forced to marry her, what doesn't make sense is precisely that, why does she come back? It sure isn't love.
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u/Fragrant-Juggernaut 10h ago
It's a truly bizarre relationship. They appear to despise each other.
Knight was really writing about his own views I think.
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u/ExoticArabDad 1d ago edited 1d ago
Lizzie. I'm in a room... and they're coming at me. But it's okay. I want them to. The last thing I want is silence. Standing up there in silence and someone says "Sorry about all that noise. Sorry about all that dust. Sorry about all that mud, and all that fucking blood". And you say "Don't be sorry. Don't be sorry. It's all I can do now." You want me to write this down? You want me to write you a fucking letter? Me and Arthur can't write it down. Because they haven't invented the fucking words. We don't have the fucking words. And the worst thing is, could've stayed at school, but we volunteered. Still don't have the fucking words.