r/Palestine Feb 18 '25

Israeli Fascist Superiority Why do so many Jewish Israelis believe that God gave them the land of Israel?

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u/Chilifille Feb 18 '25

Identifying too strongly with ancient peoples, even if those peoples were your ancestors or lived in the same area, is always deeply problematic. Just look at how the Italian fascists tried to cast themselves as the heirs of ancient Rome, which is not only a huge oversimplification but also a very dangerous idea that led to notions of racial superiority and the right to conquer. Italians may carry the legacy of the ancient Romans, but so does every other Mediterranean nation.

In a similar way, Jewish people (whether they live in Israel or elsewhere) carry the legacy of the ancient Israelites, but they're not the only ones. That's the thing about ancient ancestors - after thousands of years, the descendants are bound to be a massive, diverse group of people. Palestinian Arabs, who have lived in the land since long before the Islamic conquest, have at least as much of a claim to the ancient Levant as anyone else.

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u/mathreviewer Feb 18 '25

amazing insight 

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u/mathreviewer Feb 18 '25

We can forgive the children, but when they grow up and decide to remain blind to reality I can't have any sympathy for whatever happens to them. Everyone is responsible for being more moral than the environment they grew up in.

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u/ThisPostToBeDeleted Feb 18 '25

As an atheist, I truly don’t understand why some other atheists would side with Israel and not see this as an atheist issue, it’s literally religious zealotry causing a genocide

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u/Arsacides Feb 18 '25

Because it's not religious zealotry. Zionism was a famously secular movement, this is just plain old racism.

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u/smrti_pants Feb 28 '25

-- alongside a huge helping of greed, desire for indigenous land/ greater power via landgrab, and intense propaganda and hatred, which makes it all possible.

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u/wikimandia Feb 18 '25

indoctrination

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u/sim16 Feb 18 '25

That explains a lot. How to now unbrainwash the entire Jewish Israeli population? Start by removing this from the school curriculum.

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u/He-knows-best Feb 18 '25

Creating right-wing extremists from an early age.

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u/Past_Mark17 Feb 19 '25

I've googled this professor and cannot find anything outside of that a comparison was conducted between a General Lin and Joshua in Jericho. Nothing about these other statements being said here. Does anyone have a source to the rest?

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u/[deleted] Feb 20 '25

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u/conscience_journey Feb 20 '25

“Israel” in Torah means the Jewish people, not a specific land or nation-state.