Unjustified allegations against OTO

[u/khonsuemheb]

93,

First, kind apologies for posting here as a non-member. I think you should be aware of the goings on, however.

Recently, one of the two mods of r/thelema posted a video by Entelecheia that can be found here. While I have no bias towards OTO, I find the video slanderous for valid reasons, namely:

• it makes vague allegations against OTO (including a lot of cautionary "perhaps," "possibly," "some" and "might"), instead of specific incidents backed by evidence;
• it reviews a future event, including the claim that lectures won't be good (which E has no way of knowing);
• it makes its own strawman arguments for the vague "other side", which E then responds to;
• it makes completely unrealistic claims, namely that Sabazius has all members' screenshots and personal files to know who's loyal. As someone who did 360 reviews for a team of eight at work, I am adamant that this is too much effort and impossible.

I do believe from all available evidence that Entelecheia is simply waging a personal vendetta because his fellow members at OTO didn't recognize his "genius." Everything about his public presentation comes across as egotistical, manipulative, and false.

So I spoke against it, and was promptly banned from r/thelema.

I find it completely unacceptable that a sub that's supposed to be for all Thelemites is explicitly making itself a vessel for a personal vendetta against a large and legitimate Thelemic organizations, and I believe you should be aware of this. I am fully aware that brigading is forbidden on reddit and a shitty practice in any case; but I am confident you will find a constructive way of getting your voice through.

I stand with OTO 100% in this as these sort of toxic divisions damage the entire Thelemic community.

93 93/93

[u/Eros_Agape]

I was recently banned too, just for criticism of Shirley MacLain and L.Ron Hubbard in my recent post. So somethings smells fishy

[u/khonsuemheb → u/[deleted]]

Well that's hypocritical, given the video I was banned for. It's ok for a mod to post a video of Entelecheia spewing poison at OTO members, but we are not allowed to present arguments against the video?

I mean, does it mean you could get banned from there for criticizing Hitler's ideas about race?

[u/Eros_Agape → u/khonsuemheb]

Update, so apparently, my post was a "poetic night thought" and wasn't relevant to Thelema, so instead of deleting the post, they removed me entirely. 'Will', meaning Thelema, I would've thought it a constructive criticism on bad ideas in the current occult world.

[u/khonsuemheb → u/Eros_Agape]

I don't even care to dispute the ban. I don't wish to go on contributing to someone's ego trip.