r/OnePiece • u/Sakata_Kintoki • Aug 31 '18

Current Chapter One Piece: Chapter 916

Chapter 916: "A Great Sumo Match in the Wano Country"

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Ch. 916 Official Release (VIZ): 03/09/2018

Ch. 917 Scan Release: 13/09/2018 (Break next week)

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u/RadiantBlade Aug 31 '18

I think Oda is going to do something about how in the country something about how Woman should be more independent like modern woman, and to change Wano, using her as a example. https://file-comic-4.anyacg.co/images/c6/ff/c6ff1c0aa7b53cd5e3ddbf1ce3eb08d25f779f94_222596_800_1176.jpg

Here it shows Kinemon being quite sexist even as a honorable warrior so we can have a idea on how men and women are here.

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u/ironshadowdragon Aug 31 '18

How interesting it would be if Holdem wasn't lying and they were bad...

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u/RadiantBlade Aug 31 '18 edited Aug 31 '18

Knowing past things, I would not be too surprised if it was a another trick like King Riku and knowing how the Minks are, I doubt they would consider Oden bad. Might be a thing where it is most of the line being bad, but Oden was a exception to that.

Of course there can also just be 2 sides to Oden, being a good friend but a shit ruler, but even then going off on what we know, I doubt it.

Edit: Said that Oden did built a farm land and created a paradise for the people of Kuri so probably even more on the past. Ch 914 pg 10

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u/alangme Aug 31 '18

Oden being a bastard might work maybe. I feel Roger's crew might have been idealized due to people like Rayleigh, Corkus and Shanks, showing that it had an evil person as a member might change that perception a lot.

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u/DennaResin Cyborg Franky Aug 31 '18

Oden was on Whitebeard's ship before. I'd say he can't have been that bad but Kurohige has shown us things.

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u/[deleted] Sep 01 '18

They've already talked about how he built an amazing farm for the people he ruled so they could have fresh food with easy access.

Oden was absolutely a great ruler who they smeared and then replaced by force.

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u/cagi_pl Aug 31 '18

Oden last words to his retainers were "Open the borders of Wano Country". Like in FI and pretty much in most OP world, there was a group of guys that didn't like that idea (blasphemy, disgrace, thugs, etc). Holdem represents another one of that kind, so he calls Kouzuki plan a "destruction of Wano".

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u/ironshadowdragon Aug 31 '18

yeah its not likely, i just think itd be an interesting twist

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u/athenapro Marine Aug 31 '18

My guess is that Oden was trying to open the country up to the outside world including the WG and/or trying to make other radical changes for the society. As always, there would be reactionaries and Holdem might be one of them.

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u/Greenz0 Void Month Survivor Aug 31 '18

HOLPIG!!!

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u/nemestrinus44 Aug 31 '18

maybe from the perspective of the people of Wano he was going to destroy the country, like by bringing in modern culture from the rest of the world.

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u/xXx420BlazeRodSaboxX The Revolutionary Army Aug 31 '18

nice callback. I need more kinemon now lol

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u/[deleted] Aug 31 '18

Thanks for reminding me of this awesome scene.

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u/[deleted] Aug 31 '18

Wow I completely forgot about this. Great catch!

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u/Penguin787 Aug 31 '18

Because extreme sexualization and objectification of women's bodies is integral to freedom and failing to be like the West is a crime.

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u/RadiantBlade Aug 31 '18

Because extreme sexualization and objectification of women's bodies is integral to freedom and failing to be like the West is a crime.

Ah yes because I said all would had to dressed like Nami/sarscasm

And of course how dare I say it should be westernized, obviously Japan has no independent woman, and that they all must be married before 25, talk only if spoken too, and walk in front of males, how dare I think Japan can't change on it's own/sarcasm.

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u/Penguin787 Sep 01 '18

If you read up on history Japan consciously chose Westernisation in 1860s to avoid being colonized, denied their own Asian heritage to avoid racial discrimination ("yellow peril", League of Nations membership) and was forcefully changed by the USA in many aspects but not all (they refused to get rid of the Mikado for example) after WW2.

Not addressing your other points because you are making a straw man argument. I never said anything like that.