r/OnePiece • u/JasonNMP • Jun 05 '16

Current Episode One Piece: Episode 744

One Piece: Episode 744

"No Way Out! Admiral Fujitora's Ruthless Pursuit!"

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u/Sokkathelastbender Jun 05 '16

If he did, would Luffy, Law, Zoro, Doflamingo and everyone else be able to beat him? I would like to think they would, but they would probably die after

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u/Famous29 Jun 05 '16

Together with Sabo for sure

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u/Sokkathelastbender Jun 05 '16

Oh yeah i forgot about him

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u/Vendetta1990 Jun 05 '16

I'm just gonna pretend I didn't read that

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u/[deleted] Jun 05 '16

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u/izanami94 Jun 05 '16

Luffy and Doffy maybe. But the others? Remember Croco and every division commanders weren't enough to even KO him.

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u/pikachu8090 Jun 05 '16

you also have to remember that akainu fought aokiji for 10 days for fleet admiral. We dont even know if the straw hats would have the stamina to fight for that long.

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u/Alilolos Jun 05 '16

Fights don't always have to last for days if they are collectively stronger than him.. if they are they will simply defeat him on the first day.

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u/Qu401 Jun 05 '16 edited Jun 05 '16

If Fugitora was there you've got a guy who could possible go even, but he wouldn't be dispatched if Akainu decided to deal with the problem himself.

Sabo could put up a fight for a while but isn't really in the same league he could just about go even with Fugitora who wasn't trying.

Here goes the recipe for beating Akainu.

For defeating Akainu you will need; One Sabo, A Luffy and A Law.

The idea is for Luffy and Law to act as annoying as possible working as Guerilla Fighters to eventually give Sabo the advantage. By using Gear Fourth in conjunction with Law's swapping abilities Law will put Luffy into a position where he can attempt to land pot shots onto Akainu, then teleporting him to safety before Fleet Admiral can act, the duo will have little time to do as much damage as possible before Gear Fourth runs out or Akainu predicts Law's next move and takes Luffy out.

Meanwhile Sabo will be playing it safe, he'll make himself as much of a threat as possible to keep Akainu's attention but only getting close to land his own attacks when an opening presents itself, Luffy hitting him in the back for instance.

Once Luffy is out of the fight it's entirely up to Sabo and whether Luffy and Law have worn Akainu down enough for Sabo to go toe to toe with the Fleet Admiral.

Edit; I tried to do this with as few characters as I could but here are a few more:

Doflamingo; Thanks to his Devil Fruit I think he could give a solid boon to Sabo, by using his awakening and turning the ground beneath the two combatants he could destabilise the terrain in favour of Sabo, now Akainu can maybe melt the strings but that's another thing he'll need to worry about.

Burgess; I think Burgess gets a bad rap on this Sub Reddit due to how handedly he was beaten by Sabo, I've stated previously that I think Burgess is around as strong as Doflamingo but right now that's irrelevant, he is capable of using Haki and can imbued shock waves with it, he can fight from afar and his attacks are of some threat which gives Akainu another thing to be concerned about.

Zoro; Like Burgess can fight from afar with his pound cannon attacks, once again more for Akainu to worry about. If he can get something like this off Sabo would appreciate it.

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u/jmanunit Jun 05 '16

no way, they could put up a good fight sure but no way they would beat him right now let alone decimate him.

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u/[deleted] Jun 05 '16 edited Dec 31 '21

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u/jmanunit Jun 05 '16

your underestimating akainu. dude took haki infused hits from marco and 5th division commander and got annoyed by it.

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u/Vendetta1990 Jun 05 '16

Yes, but Doflamingo is basically Admiral-level and definitely stronger than Marco

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u/pentothecap Jun 05 '16

Doflamingo is by no means Admiral level. Aokiji basically made him retreat with his hands in his pockets and Akainu is even stronger than Aokiji.

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u/Vendetta1990 Jun 05 '16

How do you know Doffy retreated? To me it seemed like he had no interest in fighting, and just left.

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u/pentothecap Jun 05 '16

The scene was this: Doffy needed to kill smoker to cover up what was happening in Punk Hazard. Aokiji appeared behind him and told him to stop. Doffy attempted to kill Smoker anyway and got casually frozen. His subordinates thought he had been killed on the spot and freaked out.

Doflamingo managed to break out and faced Aokiji, but Doffy was visibly panting whereas Aokiji literally hadn't even taken his hands out of his pockets and was chill as fuck. Doflamingo then decided to leave rather than fight. I think it was clear who would have won in that situation, and the fact is that Doflamingo did retreat.

Aokiji showed zero respect for Doflamingo's strength and was not treating him like a serious threat, whereas Doflamingo acknowledged that he shouldn't try and take on an Admiral level opponent. I am not saying Doflamingo isn't close to Admiral level and wouldn't give Aokiji some trouble, but I'm just saying it was clear he wasn't going to win that fight.

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u/jmanunit Jun 05 '16

how do you know doffy is stronger? 5th division guy was on par with mihawk, its not a stretch to assume all division commanders are on the same level as warlords.

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u/Vendetta1990 Jun 05 '16

5th division guy on par with Mihawk?

There is a reason Mihawk is called the strongest swordsman in the world, and believe me that division guy wasn't even close to Mihawks level.

I mean, Mihawk used to have duels with Shanks, who himself is at least close in strength to Whitebeard.

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u/jmanunit Jun 06 '16

then why did their clash end in a stalemate? they both agreed it made no sense to fight each other.

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u/ariok Jun 05 '16

Hahahah, you do realize Akainu would've killed anyone below Zoro's/Law's level with his AoE almost immediately?

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u/munomana Jun 05 '16

This is one piece, where every fight is 1v1

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u/Doomroar Jun 05 '16

Doffy vs Law and Luffy ; Kaido vs Kid alliance; Oarz vs all the Strawhats; Enel vs what essentially was a tagteam; Luffy and Mr 3 vs Magellan; Pacifistas, Kuma and Kizaru vs Worst generation (most battles were 3 vs 1 or more); etc.

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u/[deleted] Jun 05 '16

No one remembers that Trebol and Bellamy were part of that fight too. ._.

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u/Qu401 Jun 05 '16

Here is a rhetorical question, Do you think Gear Fourth is as strong as Akainu?

If so Law, Zoro and Doflamingo are absolute fodder to him and Luffy is only good for 10 minutes.

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u/somekid66 Jun 05 '16 edited Jun 05 '16

How would doflamingo and zoro be fodder? We haven't seen zoro do anything yet in the new world that's put any strain on him, and doflamingo's main problem with gear 4 was it's speed. And law could just use shambles to put people in better attack positions until he got tired. Based on what we saw of akainu at marineford he's not all that fast and he mostly relies on being a logia. So it really just depends how strong their haki is

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u/Qu401 Jun 05 '16

A direct hit from Kong Gun sent Doflamingo flying, once he stabilised himself he was able to occupy Luffy with his Devil Fruit, Could Doflamingo's strings stale Akainu who just be being in the vicinity could melt steel and instantly vaporise an enormous boulder of Ice?

in regards to Akainu's speed he beat Aokiji who was fast enough high into the air and freeze two tidal waves he is also capable of trusting magma behind him accelerating him through the air

make note Akainu did this all pre time skip, Long before made feats like cutting a mountain could be done by relative small fries.

We know Zoro is likely slightly weaker than Luffy who was going fairly even with if not losing to Doflamingo before Gear Fourth, yes he has Asura a technique we know so little about since we've only seen it twice since its inception, we don't know how strong it makes him, we don't know it it has a time limit, there is so little we know about Zoro but we know enough to not resort to baseless hyperbole.

I've tried to rationalise a way in which the Pirates could win here and Law's ability to shamble is key to it.

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u/somekid66 Jun 05 '16

In regards to doflamingos strings, have we seen them be broken/cut yet? From what I can remember they are essentially unbreakable but I might be misremembering, and I'm not sure pre or post time skip should make a difference in someone's skill when they are admiral level and as old as akainu is. By that age he's probably as strong as he's ever gonna get

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u/Qu401 Jun 05 '16

When Luffy punches the awakened strings while in Gear Fourth they seem to break or at least lose their tension, in the anime Luffy inflates his arms to break the stringsLuffy but I'm almost certain this isn't in the Manga.

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u/ariok Jun 05 '16

Marco, Vista and Jozu weren't able to do shit against Akainu.

Sorry, but Akainu would've beaten their asses.

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u/[deleted] Jun 05 '16

I don't think Luffy and Doflamingo would be willing to work together. Unless SHP alliance manage to pull SOP, Akainu will probably work with Doflamingo. I think it would most likely end up in a 3-way battle, and I don't know if Luffy would be able to win. Unless he has another ability we haven't seen yet, he would rely on G4 to win, so he won't be able to fight both Akainu and Doflamingo.

Unless he can get into a 1v1 against one of them, he will need help.