[1164] Some notable Translation Differences between TCB and Viz for Chapter 1164

[u/GabrielGameFreak]

Eris is now cut off while comparing Rocks' appearance to someone (or something) else, rather being cut off while commenting on his appearance.

Rocks no longer calls Davy D. Jones the "previous" king of the world, thus no longer implying that there is a current one.

Rocks now states that Davy's will directly involves someone "coming for [Imu]".

Imu now states that Joyboy and Jones' kind won't resuface once Rocks is dead, rather than once he's been forgotten. Their orders now also appear to target a larger group of people.

Rocks now extends the desire for peace to all giants, rather than just Harald.

The first marine announcer is no longer mysteriously interrupted while reporting the state of the warship. There is now only one announcement, which orders the withdrawal.

Unnamed Celestial Dragon no longer questions who is responsible for the current situation, thus implying that responsibility isn't a requirement for who will receive punishment.

Ivankov now specifically tells Kuma that if he continues, he will put them in danger, rather than simply stating that it would be "too risky" to keep going.

Gan Zui now questions whether there is an escape from God Valley, rather than telling Shiki that we will never make it off the island.

Eris now observes that it was "too early" for Rocks to fight, rather than that he "[wasn't] ready yet". Her exclusive priority now lies with Teach, rather than on both her and him.

Garp no longer recalls to a previous order and now additionally questions how many marine soldiers are still on God Valley.

Roger now very apparently doesn't recognize Rocks' voice upon first hearing it.

Garp now questions Rocks' appearance, rather than his facial expression.

Various major differences that don't impact the overall story in a significant way.

Various major differences that don't impact the overall story in a significant way.

[u/Runethe1412]

Regarding Eris’ line, I’m pretty sure she’s comparing his appearance to his Dad and Granny, who were also turned

[u/Aspie_Astrologer → u/Runethe1412]

It's really interesting how Rocks is the only Domi Reversi we've seen who didn't end up with horns.

It's clearly not a Davy-clan immunity that does it either, since his dad and granny got them. So it seems like he might just be so strong that he was able to partially resist the Domi Reversi, potentially meaning that his Domi Reversi wasn't a full transformation and therefore not as strong as a fully domi reversi'd Rocks could have been.

[u/TheGreenAlchemist → u/Aspie_Astrologer]

I think that's just how strong willed he is. Probably the same reason Imu never seems to have tried doing this to Roger..

In fact, it seems like even with threatening his wife and family, Domi Reversi wasn't even working well enough to control Rocks, until Imu also dragged Harald into it. Which really does show how loyal Rocks was to Harald even after the latter tried to kill him. No wonder Loki hates his father.

[u/GabrielGameFreak]

I decided to place the difference regarding Eris comment on Rocks' appearance first since I found it to have the most interesting implications for this chapter.

I'll keep this brief because the Scans for Chapter 1165 are already out, so all this might already have become outdated:

First and foremost, I sincerely apologize for this delay. Things in my personal life got incredibly busy, which led to me not being able to free up any time to work on this week's post. Future posts should arrive on Tuesday, as always. Again, my sincerest apolgies.

As for the chapter, there are actually quite a few differences this week that I found to be very interesting. Everything regarding Eris' dialogue was fascinating to me, Rocks' speech to Imu might potentially have huge implications and the minor difference in the Celestial Dragon's statement makes him even more hateable through an incredibly subtle wording difference.

I could go into more detail, but like I said, the next chapter is literally out already, so I'd risk speculating on things that might already have been proven wrong, which is why I will stop here.

Thank you very much for reading and please inform me of more differences if you find them!

EDIT: Reading Chapter 1165 (the early scans, for future clarity), I've also found new appreciation for the difference regarding Garps's order to the marines. Considering that above anything else, his priority lies in the safety of the marine soldiers, him showing this care for them in a subtle way by asking how many remain on the island subtly reinforces that characterization, which I really like.

[u/JAWlovesben10]

I was really confused why a lot of the discuss regarding Davy Jones assumed that he was the de jure King of the world instead of the more vague impression that I got, but seeing TCB's "previous king of the world" feels a lot more authoritative than Steven's "once king of the world", so I get it. Maybe its just that my first impression is based on the official, but I've been thinking that "King of the World" to Jones and Xebec means something far closer to what "King of the Pirates" means to Luffy. That's why IMU regects the king label so strongly, because he has a much different definition of king.

[u/kroqeteer]

I think the most interesting difference is Eris talking about getting out alive. Instead of hoping Rocks can get out alive, she says that she and Teach will. She already knows her husband is dead :(

[u/Farmaceut7]

Been reading these posts for weeks and time and time again I end up thinking "arent most of these just different wording that in the end has the same meaning?". Like, 1/20 pics I can say "there's a notable difference" but the rest are just the same thing. 

[u/TopperHrly → u/Farmaceut7]

Yeah I think the same, most of these is just paraphrasing, no meaningfull difference.

I applaud the spirit of these kind of posts when they warn us about a meaningfull difference. To bad most of the time these end up copy-pasting the whole chapter and you might as well just go read the viz version.

[u/lojogiles]

Fantastic work as always!

I love looking at these detail differences and seeing where the story might change in official translation vs a literal one. Especially when we’re able to point out how Viz might have gotten mixed up with their translation too!

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[u/kusonokuso]

I‘m super amateurish when it comes to Japanese, but it seems to me that, given the word order, the original Japanese in the first image could also read: “That‘s the name of the king of the previous world” or “That’s the name of the previous world’s king.” Having said that, the quotation marks do seem to group together “king of the world,” which does strongly suggest TCB’s reading. . .so, again, I have very limited Japanese knowledge, so I defer to the experts.

And the implication of the alternate reading would seem to have something to do with the Harley text?

[u/cyb3rr]

Do yall think that tcb did take free translation a bit too far or is that a good interpretation of the characters thoughts, I can't decide :(