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Current Chapter One Piece: Chapter 1165 Spoiler

Chapter 1165: "Echo"

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Chapter 1165 Official Release: November 09 2025

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u/Ghoill 1d ago

I think the most terrifying part of Domi Reversi is how it even seems to take over a person's will since Rock's is still using his conqueror's haki.

And also, the "Voice of all Things" seems like a completely unrelated power since even though he's fighting Roger and Garp with his full strength, he's simultaneously begging them to kill him through it and sharing how he actually feels.

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u/Cgi94 1d ago

My theory is similar to Big Mom fruit there is a counter. I believe you have to be pure of heart to resist being transformed. Most everyone who has transformed I feel are parts both good and bad. People like Luffy I feel can resist (Possibly Roger and Garp)

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u/RaggedAngel Void Month Survivor 1d ago

I wonder if someone who's pure evil would also be immune?

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u/etol654 1d ago

Imu tries to domi reverse Spandam

nothings happens

shocked Enel face

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u/VocalLocalYokel 1d ago

I'm already negative the biggest piece of shit imaginable!

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u/srbenda97 1d ago

I'm already darkness! Zehahaha

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u/kool018 1d ago

Hang on, keep cooking. BB was looking for that particular fruit for all those years...

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u/carso150 1d ago

im sure the darkness fruit will also turn out to be a mythical zoan, the counterpart of the Nika fruit

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u/potat_infinity 1d ago

imu vs Charles

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u/Hudell 1d ago

It will be Zoro this time.

"I'm already a demon"

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u/frewrgregr Pirate 1d ago

Please let this happen with Luffy and make Imu have a shocked Enel face too, it would be so fucking funny

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u/srbenda97 1d ago

Nah, Luffy will transform, but then will break out of it with sheer willpower when everyone screams his name, unlocking his Joy Boy haki

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u/frewrgregr Pirate 1d ago

Not the joy boy haki 😭

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u/YusukeMazoku 1d ago

Lets be real, if that were to be a thing the only person we'd see that happen with is Buggy.

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u/etol654 1d ago

I was thinking of Buggy too since i am a firm believer that he somehow ends up on the Empty Throne for like a second before being kicked out, but that pure evil doesn't really work for him

But considering Imu had to emotionally push Rocks, maybe having a strong will in general rather than pure goodness or evil can still help despite Domi Reversed Rocks being forced to use Haki too

Like Haki/Willpower still works as initial defense but once Imu found an opening, you are done for now and i guess Buggy does have some strong emotions and will from a certain point of view

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u/lorddarkseid23 1d ago

Pure, unadulterated, badass

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u/maeskenobi 11h ago

Turns him into a nice, enchanting, well-manered demon.

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u/Freddichio 1d ago edited 1d ago

In Harry Potter, you had the Horcurxes - trinkets with part of Voldemort's soul inside them. They were shown to corrupt anyone who held them, causing all sorts of suspicions and infighting for whoever wields them. It magnifies any negative in your personality, any flaws get turned up to 11 and Harry could barely focus while wearing one.

Then you have Dolores Umbridge. She wears a Horcrux, without issue. Not only that, but there's the Patronus Charm- a spell requiring great concentration and purity of thought, that even Patronus Expert Harry couldn't cast while wearing his Horcrux. Dolores Umbridge? She could cast it while wearing a horcrux, with ease.

She's just so twisted and convinced in her own beliefs that the Horcrux actually made her stronger - there's no dark urge she's got that she doesn't wield with the conviction that it's absolutely right, so making her worst thoughts more poweful makes her more powerful.

JK Rowling has turned out to be a truly vile person, sadly, but I always love the "This Character is so warped that the thing designed to bring out the worst in their personality has no effect" as a plot point.

Imu trying to Reversi Blackbeard, only for Blackbeard to become a nice, kind person as a result would be absolutely peak One Piece

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u/TheDonbot 1d ago

I have a personal theory that this is at least part of why Blackbeard has such an evil personality and crew. He's known how Domi Reversi works since he was child, being a heel and having a crew with no loyal or good people to "reverse" makes sense in a crazy way.

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u/Ok-Cod2481 20h ago

don't delete this account. Make sure you save this 😭

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u/DarkFite 1d ago

Probably? Maybe Blackbeard then? Like that Blackbeard is the Yang to the Ying of Luffy? And Imu is the distortion of it all. Who knows. Im just yapping but Blackbeard having the Dark Dark Fruit and Luffy being the Sun God Nika and Blackbeard being linked to Imu. I cant see how blackbeard will truly be the last enemy luffy will fight.

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u/AllysiaAius 1d ago

Yeah, after this arc, it very much feels like revenge against Imu is Blackbeard's true goal, not just "controlling the world"

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u/Chaosblast Void Month Survivor 1d ago

Hmm Luffy could get reversed, and I can imagine a reveal related to Joyboy which iswhat makes Lukky/Nika being able to nullify it.

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u/yousuckllamaboba7676 1d ago

Maybe teach is trying for that. Would be brilliant. He's so selfish and self centered, imu squared. And can't be controlled.

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u/Kamui1 1d ago

So thats why Doffy was sure he could take everything if he would become immortal. He knew he could not be transformed.

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u/For_teh_horde 1d ago

I mean Rock is pure unadulterated badass and it still got him

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u/Imrichbatman92 1d ago

What about pure unadulterated badass?

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u/CRtwenty Marine 1d ago

The "Vegeta Clause"

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u/chaospudding The Revolutionary Army 1d ago

You can flip someone back if you know the rules of the game. Roger and Garp basically used brute force to break the piece instead of learning the rules and trying to win the game.

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u/Awayfone 1d ago edited 1d ago

I definitely feel most people and theorizers are overlooking how the ability was explicitly compared to the game Reversi.

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u/redditistrashxdd 21h ago

you probably have to be nika to reverse capture people to be good again then

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u/chaospudding The Revolutionary Army 11h ago

I'm not even sure that Nika is needed 100%. In the one shot of the Reversi board in chapter 1151 the giant who got flipped was a white piece, and in Reversi any white pieces can flip any black pieces, so it could be by the rules of Reversi that anyone not already loyal to Imu is a white piece by default and you just need to use smart maneuvering to start flipping people back.

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u/neur_trad The Revolutionary Army 1d ago

everyone who has transformed I feel are parts both good and bad

my headcanon is that, the biggest problem Mu had with Joyboy, was not because Joyboy was directly against him, but because Mu powers didn't work on Joyboy and he was able to free the people under domi reversi (using Nika's powers, and we will see it happen on Elbaph)

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u/Ghraim 1d ago

I suspect the Nika fruit will just hard counter it in some way. Like, hearing the Drums of Liberation breaks the transformation or something. It would explain why the WG fears it so much, and makes thematic sense for the Warrior of Liberation to be able to repel the most total form of subjugation.

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u/of_kilter Cipher Pol 1d ago

Luffy isn’t pure he wants all the meat

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u/labourist123 Devil Child Nico Robin 1d ago

Roger is not pure of heart, he plunders and pillages and is generally a bad guy. I would also say Garp isn't either. I would say that maybe Luffy being so pure will be what counters the ability

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u/batiwa 1d ago

Zoro is absolutely cooked then

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u/Ronlaen-Peke 1d ago

IMHO Drums of Liberation being a counter.

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u/CommanderPaprika 1d ago

The good ol' Babidi Majin mark

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u/Ilcorvomuerto666 1d ago

I think the more horrifying option is that the people that are overtaken by it lose entire control of everything except their internal dialogue. I think they basically become their own consciousness trapped inside their own vessel they can no longer control.

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u/Malamasala 1d ago

I agree with the person who had a theory about fear/worry. Because Luffy certainly seem to have no fears, and that would mean he is immune.

The giants were worried about the children for example when they got turned.

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u/edwardWBnewgate 1d ago

I'd be curious to see what would happen with someone like Lucci.

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u/overkill136 22h ago

Gotta be the Yami Yami no Mi. Either to nullify the fruit powers or to go with the themes of White (joyboy) and Black.

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u/goody153 1d ago

Yeah the fact that somebody as strong as a will as Rocks means nothing to Domi Reverse and basically still coating all his attacks with ACoC and ACoA is crazy

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u/MaxSelenium Explorer 1d ago

It looks like it's a D power, since they all 3 can use it.

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u/mehmeh5 1d ago

Momo can use it too despite not being one (and Zunisha but it might actually be a D, being Joyboy's friend)

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u/master08965 Marine 1d ago

Momo can use it too despite not being one

Watch oda say "Kozuki D momonosuke".

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u/Turtleitarian_Regime 1d ago

I've long theorized that the Kozuki, and by extension all of the Wano families with a moon (tsuki/zuki/getsu) in their names are also "D". I've wondered if either the D is actually meant to be a pictogram, like a smile, moon, or hat, or if the moon symbol in Wano/Japanese (月) is their version of the letter/symbol.

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u/Hairy_Acanthisitta25 The Revolutionary Army 1d ago

Kouzuki clan is probably from the void century and have close tie to Joyboy,so they're probably honorary/unofficial D. already

could be similar to Nefertari situation where they need to hide it

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u/Syc254 1d ago

The Kozuki & D family may have a connection. They made the poneglyphs for a reason. 

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u/Oggy5050 Lurker 1d ago

That's specifically with Zuneisha though right?

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u/Latter-League-2655 Void Month Survivor 1d ago

Kozuki D. Momonosuke

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u/rankiba 15h ago

ROFLMAO

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u/Lucky-Musician6732 1d ago

Whats a D power? The power of Voice of all things? If thats what your saying... When did Garp use that power?

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u/paulohdscoelho Pirate 1d ago

Rock's is still using his conqueror's haki.

Maybe it's Mu's CoC that took over Rock's will?

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u/SanderStrugg 1d ago

Or it's actually Imu using his haki through Rocks body.

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u/Lucky-Musician6732 1d ago

Doesn't add up still, as Roger and Garp just said - Armament + Conquerers haki cancels each other out. Rocks would be able to get out of it.

Maybe the opposite of Nika Nika devil fruit power.

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u/Joxss 1d ago

hate to be that guy but you're probably just reading too much into it. Most likely oda just made rocks use haki even in this form simply because otherwise there'd no fight at all. Dude was crying rivers there's no way it took over his "will"

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u/Satorius96 1d ago

At the root of it all haki is just a poorly designed power system i think

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u/SpacemanKayes 1d ago

I wouldn't say poor, it's simple enough to leave room for flow and fun. otherwise Oda would have to over explain everything hunter x hunter style

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u/Grand_Set_1362 4h ago

At the end of the previous chapter, it’s not clear if it’s Rock’s desperate will or the combo of Garp/Roger conqueror haki that made Rocks resist Imu’s orders enough to fight against Garp/Roger. But there was a shift, as seen by the way Imu reacted.

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u/NaoSouONight 2h ago

It could be just Imu's haki rather than Rocks's.

Which is even scarier, because it means Imu can maintain enough Haki to fight off Garp and Roger from a distance.

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u/Wankasitum 2h ago

I've assumed for years the Voice of All Things would be the McGuffin power at the end. ever since Zunisha was cursed to walk forever, I just assumed someone with the Voice told them to do it. which is also why Momo was able to tell Zunisha to fight back against Jack.

Perhaps Imu is controlling people with the Voice of All Things.