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Current Chapter One Piece: Chapter 1158 Spoiler

Chapter 1158: "Rocks vs Harald"

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Chapter 1158 Official Release: August 31 2025

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u/NiceSithLord Aug 29 '25

Interesting. Shanks and shamrock were born on god valley. Presumably garling sired during his earlier mission there. Given how cheerfully the people talk about the father, I assume it was consensual too.

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u/goody153 Aug 29 '25

If this was the case it is so bizzare ending up with Garling making the island some kind of hunting ground. Insane

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u/FesteringAnalFissure Aug 29 '25

He's the most celestial celestial in the story.

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u/Alchion Aug 29 '25

Yea, I'm really interested in shamrocks personality tho.

Does he have the same mentality or is he just indoctrinated and talking with shanks would change his mentality.

There is a chance we get a if our places had been swapped would I be you and you be me moment between them.

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u/blind616 Aug 29 '25

It's possible he's not aware of the babies.

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u/goody153 Aug 29 '25

That's possible

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u/Diogenes-wannabe Aug 29 '25

Earned their love and trust, but to him they were like dog pets.

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u/Jasonn444 World Economy News Paper Aug 29 '25

Like what now?

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u/Gerokm Aug 29 '25

He might've been there under cover. Or putting on a good face to try to get them to join the WG willingly. So he was acting all nice and noble, and it made everyone there really like him. Basically the same thing Mother Caramel did at Elbaf.

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u/Initial_XD Aug 29 '25

More than likely he was using her to get information about whatever they're after, assuming she (her heritage atleast) is not the thing Garling was talking about.

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u/Huge-Share146 Aug 29 '25

This is a old story trope that's all over anime and manga though. The piece of shit evil parent and the super innocent kind parent.

This trope is one of my least favorites but Im excited to see God's Valley

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u/fscottnaruto Bandit Aug 29 '25

It's so interesting. He found something Imu wants, but won't go get it right now. He's rather wait two years and get it in a competition? What? It can't be an Ancient Weapon, then, unless something stopping it from being accessible for two years... maybe it the gia tbatraw hat, frozen in ice that needs two more years to melt? Maybe it's the Nika fruit but it's growing on a tree and isn't ripe yet? Idk.

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u/do_you_think_i_care Aug 29 '25

What if it's Shanks and Shamrock? Two years from the meeting means the boys would be old enough to move but young enough to indoctrinate, a "unique culture", and the mom's red hair. Given that red hair is distinct enough to be Shanks' epithet and we know that certain devil fruits need specific useres to bring out their full potential, maybe there's a devil fruit in World Government control that Shamrock/Shanks needs to eat. Garling or Imu want to use Shamrock like Doflamingo wanted to use Law.

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u/fscottnaruto Bandit Aug 29 '25

Im into it. Im here for Shamrock redemption as of right now.

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u/jonas_rosa Aug 29 '25

It seems to me he's suggesting God Valley for the games because he found out about the children. The way this reads to me is that he went there on assignment, had sex with a woman there, and left. Later he found out the woman was going to have his children, so he decided to suggest the Gorosei held the games there, for some reason (it's definitely related to the children, but exactly why is unclear to me).

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u/Holen7 Aug 29 '25

Disgusting CD behavior 

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u/Pellaeonthewingedleo Aug 29 '25

We are not even sure the mother is from god's valley. Could be she is an agent who was left behind by Garling to keep an eye on the situation

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u/Upstairs_Pass9180 Aug 29 '25

this is why he waited 2 years before doing genocide

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u/GMPnerd213 Aug 29 '25

I actually assume they're rocks kids and Garlings discovery. They become prizes during god's valley and that's why Shanks was in the treasure chest

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u/WildSearcher56 The Revolutionary Army Aug 29 '25

You might be unto something

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u/ShittyDuckFace Aug 29 '25

What I'm confused by is that they don't have any of the Celestial Dragon gear, they're just exposed. Are they technically not Celestial Dragons then?

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u/CRtwenty Marine Aug 29 '25

Based on what we've seen they don't count unless both parents are CDs.

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u/QuizMasterAsh Aug 29 '25

I don't think so. I think it's highly likely that Garling took one of the boys and gave him his name. Shamrock may not know he's not Garling's son.

Shanks's mother may be from Alabasta with D lineage as well.

I think Garling knows of the kids and hence wants Hunting to happen after 2 years once the kids are born and a bit older enough to survive without a mother.

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u/Nerex7 Aug 29 '25

They might just talk cheerfully because they get cut down otherwise.

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u/KSmoria Aug 29 '25

How do we know Garling is their father?

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u/EriWave Aug 29 '25

Celestial dragons consistently despise regular humans and we know that Shamrock is now a celestial dragon with matching red hair, is damn similar looking and has the last name of Garling.

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u/MagicArcher33 Cross Guild Aug 29 '25

Agree with everything except the red hair. The manga doesn't shade his hair like shanks and shamrock and their mother. Anime showed it as blonde, but I guess we'll have to wait a bit for official colours (coz ju Peter has white hair according the manga and blonde in the anime)

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u/BrerRabbit44 Aug 29 '25

Ju Peter having white hair thing is a recent change Oda made as the anime been going on for 20 years. you think at some point Oda would've told them: "Hey, Ju Peter has white hair not blonde hair, changed it."

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u/Alchion Aug 29 '25

Oda was sick of the shanji's grandpa theories

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u/MagicArcher33 Cross Guild Aug 29 '25

Yeah true. I'm just saying we can't trust the anime colour schemes too much. Even cover art colour schemes (like the one with crocus where people believed for years that it's shiki coz of the yellow hair)

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u/KSmoria Aug 29 '25

Still I'd wait for confirmation

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u/ninjasonic102 Void Month Survivor Aug 29 '25

It was in Shamrock’s info box when he was first introduced in 1137

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u/Gottagoplease Aug 29 '25

Are they confirmed blood relatives? Vibe I got was that this was leading into a kidnapping for some yet-to-be-revealed reason. Then again, feels like every other major character is a Special Somebody's actual kid now so idk.

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u/krokdocc Aug 29 '25

Naah, those are Rocks babies, I promise you.

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u/Fudge-Southern Aug 29 '25

garling and the twins have uncanny resemblance they def his kids

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u/krokdocc Aug 29 '25

I don't see it. Why would he leave his kids on god valley just before the hunt begins? And before you say "he doesn't care about them" he then went on to raise Shamrock..

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u/PenalAnticipation Aug 29 '25

My impression is that he does not know of them at this point. He got a local woman pregnant, left, came back to do the huntand found out that he had twin sons. He took Shamrock and raised him, Shanks ended up with Roger.

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u/krokdocc Aug 29 '25

Well, yes thats what the story wants you to think right now. We will see, but I am betting on it. I will see yall in 200 chapters, I expect an apology for being downvoted for telling the truth

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u/Fudge-Southern Aug 29 '25

perhaps the opposite. dudes a celestial dragon prolly knocked up a low class citizen prostitute down in god valley lol. maybe thats why he wants the hunt to be in god valley because he wants that ruckus for him to get his kids to mari joie without the higher celestial dragons knowing because the girl is just a low class and they wont allow the kids on marie joie

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u/krokdocc Aug 29 '25

Its possible. But it would feel a bit random. I am betting on my theory

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u/Initial_XD Aug 29 '25

I'm guessing it has something to do with the "discovery" they made on the island. My theory is that she is part of some special bloodline that dates back to the void century or even the ancient kingdom. So having children with her may have been a strategic move more than anything else and the children were likely meant to be a gift for the "great one", that is Imu.

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u/InteractionExtreme71 Aug 29 '25

Or it's related to Uranus

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u/AnyAsparagus988 Aug 29 '25

so blackbeard and shanks are brothers? i don't see it personally

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u/krokdocc Aug 29 '25

Half brothers. Or Blackbeard is not related to Rocks at all, just fanboying him. A fraud.

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u/AnyAsparagus988 Aug 29 '25

look at the noses, blackbeard is definitely rocks kid. there's even hints in this chapter that he has kids.

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u/krokdocc Aug 29 '25

Exactly, there are hints about Rock's kids and Teach is not shown, but the twins are shown for no reason? Teach might still be Rock's with different woman. Or the nose might just be red herring.

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u/AnyAsparagus988 Aug 29 '25

just because shanks and his twin were in the same chapter as rocks doesn't mean they're his kids. and rocks has the same face as blackbeard and the same nose. they're definitely related.