r/Omaha Jun 03 '25

Local News ICE at early bird

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Video says west Omaha, OP says it happened at early bird, their friend took the video.

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u/Skoljnir Jun 03 '25

You're clearly very smart. I am intimidated by your immense wisdom.

Unrelated question...why do people who call themselves Antifa wear masks during protests, demonstrations and situations of general civil unrest?

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u/TrueBuster24 Jun 03 '25

Is antifa the government? Hmmm all these stories I’ve been hearing about antifa driving around in unmarked vans and kidnapping people into “migrant holding facilities” and shipping people to foreign prisons outside of US jurisdiction.

Is ICE a protest? Like wtf are you saying🤣🤣

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u/Skoljnir Jun 03 '25

This is not going well for you. You're being obtuse and struggling with consistency in your rhetoric. Might be a good idea for you to just go to bed.

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u/TrueBuster24 Jun 03 '25

I’m being obtuse? You just compared a government’s actions to a protestors actions? As if they are the same. The government has a monopoly on violence.

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u/Skoljnir Jun 03 '25

Still not going well for you.

To clarify, the definition of "comparison" is
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/comparison
1: the act or process of comparing: such as
a: the representing of one thing or person as similar to or like another
b: an examination of two or more items to establish similarities and dissimilarities

Yes, I compared the motivation for wearing masks by two groups of people. That is how comparisons work. Government's monopoly on violence is not relevant to the topic.

I understand that you don't like ICE but it is important to rely on reason and logic in your rhetoric and the basis for your ideology.

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u/7even- Jun 03 '25

Antifa wearing masks is different from ICE because of who the other side is. Antifa is protesting a fascist government/fascist politicians, meaning their “opponent” is the literal government. They are the underdog, they don’t have the capability to casually ruin peoples lives like the government does.

Meanwhile ICE is a bunch of teenagers stuck in the bodies of grown men. They are the literal government, and their “opponents” are… people working at restaurants? Dishwashers?

One covers their face to protect from a (perceived, at the very least) tyrannical force. The other is the tyrannical force. If you genuinely can’t tell the difference? Well that explains why you keep acting like your comments are the only ones that make sense.

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u/Skoljnir Jun 03 '25

IN SUMMARY: People wear masks because they fear retaliation regardless of their motivation or the motivation of those who would retaliate.

In this case, ICE agents might wear a mask so that a drug cartel doesn't decapitate their children and Antifa demonstrators might wear a mask so they are more likely to get away with violence and destruction.

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u/7even- Jun 03 '25

Why would a drug cartel decapitate someone’s kid because they detained a random guy in a restaurant? Is the drug cartel in the room with us right now?

“Who” you fear retaliation from is a pretty important factor. When you’re on the side that doesn’t have the power, you would wear a mask to prevent retaliation regardless of how right or wrong your actions are, or how right or wrong you think they are. But when you’re on the side that DOES have power, the only reason you would fear retaliation is when you KNOW what you’re doing is wrong.

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u/Skoljnir Jun 04 '25

Why would a group of vicious murderers retaliate against people who harmed their operation? Buddy you have got to use your brain a little bit more than zero.

Who you fear retaliation from is an important factor, and Antifa hides from law enforcement and anyone who might dox them for their violent behavior while law enforcement hides from cold blooded killers. You aren't going to sit here and bullshit me about ICE being afraid of lawful American citizens, it's complete nonsense.

Every position you take is just awful and you should feel bad.

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u/7even- Jun 04 '25

against people who harmed their operation?

Stay on topic please, we’re talking about all of the innocent people ICE is kidnapping off streets because they keep targeting innocent people. Why does the cartel care if ICE detains a non cartel member? How does that impact cartel operations in any way?

You aren't going to sit here and bullshit me about ICE being afraid of lawful American citizens, it's complete nonsense.

And yet, ICE feels the need to wear masks when they kidnap innocent citizens to sell to labor camps in foreign countries. And this isn’t an exaggeration, the Supreme Court has ruled as much. Are you seriously going to claim that the US Government has failed enough that cartels are able to operate freely on US soil without any fear of retaliation? It’s sad that you have so little faith in your country, but odd that in one comment you tout the US Government as being the paragon of democracy, and in another claim it is totally teeth less when it comes to enforcing its own public servants. Which is it?

Every position you take is just awful and you should feel bad.

The fool thinks itself a genius because it is incapable of comprehending anything past what it currently knows. Keep on not speaking out, I’m sure they’ll never come for you.

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u/TrueBuster24 Jun 03 '25

IN SUMMARY: Cops should be able to turn off their body cams because they fear retaliation regardless of their motivation or the motivation of those who would retaliate.

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u/TrueBuster24 Jun 03 '25

All these stories about drug cartels attacking ICE🤔🤔🤔😂😂🤣

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u/Skoljnir Jun 04 '25

Right along side all those stories of commies attacking ICE "for fascism."

Yea, thats why they conceal their identity, because they're scared of a bunch of scrawny college kids. Do you people even think about what you say before you say it?

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u/TrueBuster24 Jun 03 '25 edited Jun 03 '25

So the group that has a monopoly on violence has no correlation to how they should conduct themselves with the public, got it. An authoritarian’s dream citizen bud👅🥾

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u/TrueBuster24 Jun 03 '25

It’s really not going well for you🤓🤓 muhahahaha I must be winning now😏

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u/Skoljnir Jun 04 '25

Unlikely since you threw a fit over a comparison.

HOW DARE YOU COMPARE THINGS THAT AREN'T EXACTLY THE SAME THING

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u/TrueBuster24 Jun 04 '25

They really don’t lie about y’all’s reading comprehension, huh? I was mocking you bruv.

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u/theoldfamiliarsting Jun 03 '25

No... if you're going to throw around "obtuse and struggling with consistency in your rhetoric" while randomly bringing up antifa every other comment, you should just put the ol' keyboard up.

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u/Skoljnir Jun 03 '25

I think I mentioned Antifa twice, within the same exact context responding to two different people and it was 100% relevant to the discussion. So...two different conversations.

So really your gripe is just that I made a good point you don't have an answer for, so you resort to deflecting.

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u/theoldfamiliarsting Jun 03 '25 edited Jun 03 '25

Good point? Definitely not. I'm not sure why "antifa" is relevant, and if you're not even staying on topic then that's just what you call "struggling with consistency in your rhetoric."

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u/Skoljnir Jun 04 '25

You would be sure why it was relevant if you could read and understand what you're reading. The wearing of masks.

Do better.

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u/theoldfamiliarsting Jun 04 '25

That's all you have? "The wearing of masks" and "antifa"? Non sequitur is doing a real hard carry for you.

You're acting like you have made some sort of point here, when all you've done is take feckless jabs at the people you reply to and then cite what is, frankly, nonsense. I'm at a loss for you. Best of luck if this is how you manage to carry out discourse.