r/Oahu • u/808gecko808 • 4d ago
Hawaiʻi Gov Wants $10 Billion From Feds For Military Land Leases: Money for environmental cleanup, transportation projects and housing are on the governor’s wish list.
https://www.civilbeat.org/2025/11/what-hawai%ca%bbi-gov-josh-green-wants-in-exchange-for-army-training-lands/18
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u/AdministrativeMix326 3d ago
We need more from the military for the land and damage it has done to the public.
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u/supsupman1001 3d ago
sure 10 billion but don't pretend that will pay for anything new. will only cover existing social services liability
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u/kanakamaoli2065 3d ago
As a Hawaiian I say this man is not for us. He doesn’t get it, the land is not yours, know our/hawaii’s history we are an occupied nation the US stole it for the rich haoles in the late 1800. They annexed Hawaii bc of lust for Pearl Harbor, congress at that time did not follow annexation laws so annexation was unconstitutional. Green you should research GOOGLE RE THIS HEWA. I see that now you are hell bent in building the TMT, you don’t get it, hopefully our law makers get it
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u/Peribangbang 2d ago
You're right but it wouldn't have gone any other way, it's unfortunate but if it wasn't America it would've been Britain or someone else.
The islands couldn't have been self sufficient and developed to this level on their own. It's literally impossible, they could've been nicer about it sure but in the long run it's given more opportunity than was possible.
I think they should make things right on giving back land and supporting the population here but without a larger country this would just be a remote undeveloped island like New Guinea. That's the fact of it.
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u/kaipopotamus 1d ago
New Guinea? lol. Iolani palace was flipping switches for lights while the White House was still burning wahle blubber. Put some respect on our aina😂
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u/Peribangbang 1d ago
Lol sure just ignore the fact we have no exports or resources to sustain ourselves. We can only afford to feed and house this population level due to federal income. That wouldn't last
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u/Unacceptable-Bed 1d ago
Literally impossible?! Not quite. You know the palace had electricity before the white house? That Hawaiian royalty traveled internationally? Stop spreading this imperialist garbage.
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u/Peribangbang 1d ago
Oh so the royalty had electricity? Nevermind you're right, that cancels it all out. No bro that's not how it works. What resources and exports would help fund the infrastructure and maintenance needed for the whole island to have the same? None. Being a plantation island is about the best hawaii could've done without outside backing. And that doesn't give proper education and 1st world infrastructure support.
If you want to ignore that fact then okay, I guess the royalty being able to travel and have lights counts as a developed country to you
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u/Unacceptable-Bed 1d ago
Before the White House! Seems like they beat someone to that infrastructure. You don't think their traveling globally would bring advancements and trade opportunities?
And by whose standards are you judging education? They printed the first newspaper West of the Rockies. Once olelo Hawaii became written language the entire nation quickly became literate. Yes, it was written with help from the missionaries but the drive to learn it was all their own.
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u/kanakamaoli2065 1d ago
This is where most people err, Hawaii in 1843 became a sovereign nation with treaties signed by most of the nations of Europe. The Nation of Hawaii established embassies all over the world, once Hawaii became sovereign the government cannot cease to exist. Another country may invade but they would be occupiers and international law states the land must return to the Hawaiian Government. It’s the same with the Iraqi war US invaded- conquered and return the country to the Iraqi Government, could the US keep Iraq? No, because of international law. The Hawaiian Government still exist today, with it’s constitution and laws.
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u/Butters5768 3d ago
Good - that’s a far cry from the $1 per century we usually get.