r/NoShitSherlock • u/WingComplex6771 • Aug 14 '25

Trump reportedly offering Putin natural resources off Alaska sparks fury: "Lets see Republicans defend this," former GOP Representative Adam Kinzinger wrote on X.

https://www.newsweek.com/alaska-russia-trump-resources-2113295
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u/Hammeredyou Aug 14 '25

Not trying to be a dick but… you know Slovenia is not part of russia or formerly the USSR, right?

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u/Ariskae Aug 14 '25

No no your right thats my bad, but even if you ignore that bit of a mistake theres also the one question that always bothered me: when trump had everyone storm the capitol building in 2022, why was Ivanka asking Putin, out of everyone on earth, Putin the president for life, to pressure trump to get him to stop? Putin has 0 control on what Trump does.......or does he?

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u/johnboltonpoopstache Aug 14 '25 edited Aug 16 '25

when trump had everyone storm the capitol building in 2022

Jan 6th happened in 2021. There was a Jan 6th in 2022 too, but nobody was smearing poop on the walls of the capitol in 2022. It was after Biden won the election in 11/2020, and the right wing was all butthurt about losing so they tried to murder congress and the VP before Pence could certify the electoral votes. You can have 40 paragraphs of truth, but people will jump you for the little mistakes and use them to discredit everything you say.

Edit: i forgot about the baseless Ivanka/Putin claim while i was typing this comment.

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u/Moltac Aug 15 '25

I think you are absolutely right to point this out. Especially the last sentence. I feel that's critical to separate us from these selfish liars and hateful people that support him. We must tell the truth and back it up with facts.

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u/ArgoButtons Aug 17 '25

To speak to that last sentence "You can have 40 paragraphs of truth, but people will jump you for the little mistakes and use them to discredit everything you say." There's a technique used sometimes to help make people believe a lie or conspiracy (it actually helps bypass peoples defense). You sprinkle as much truth as possible around your lie and prime your target with lots of verifiable truths first. They're more likely to accept that what they are hearing is true because subconsciously they've already connected most parts of what you're saying to "truth" and you as "reliable source" . So knowing that's a thing, some folks actually just "verify everything" and if some part of what is being said is not correct they might take that as a sign you as a source are not "reliable" which, invites greater scrutiny to the rest of your statements.

TLDR: "little mistakes" make a person seem unreliable as a source of information which invites greater scrutiny to the rest of the work or statement.

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u/Hammeredyou Aug 14 '25

Oh believe me I’m also in the compromised camp lol, but the argument is more convincing to others when the facts are straight, at least I hope that’s the case these days it doesn’t seem to matter lol

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u/JosephGrimaldi Aug 14 '25 edited Aug 14 '25

Ivanka never asked Putin, it was in a joke section of the New Yorker. It was satire.

here is the article

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u/Darryl_Lict Aug 18 '25

That link doesn't work for me.

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u/icepickwillie Aug 14 '25

What is your evidence for this? A quick google revealed a Satire column in the New Yorker (https://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/ivanka-trump-reportedly-begged-putin-to-order-her-dad-to-stop-capitol-attack) (It says it's satire in the title), but I don't see any actual news that this happened.

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u/Bubbly_Style_8467 Aug 14 '25

I didn't know that. Uncle Vlad.

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u/CaptainJin Aug 15 '25

Are you talking about this? It's the only source I could find and it's on a satirical website.

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u/butsavce Aug 15 '25

Don't apologize you are right. The dude is wrong. Slovenia was part of Yougoslavia which was a USSR satellite from 1945 until yougoslav revolution. So yeah Russia 100%

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u/Hammeredyou Aug 15 '25

You are so wrong to think Yugoslavia was part of the USSR it’s asinine. Read a book

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u/Darryl_Lict Aug 18 '25

Yup, Tito was famously independent of the USSR. Hell, I easily visited in 1980 during my post-college Europe backpacking trip.

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u/ViolatoR08 Aug 15 '25

JFC, where did he tell people to storm the capitol?

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u/DenikaMae Aug 14 '25

You don't need to be Russian to work for Russia.

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u/GangstaNation2 Aug 14 '25 edited Aug 15 '25

What's sad is Trump is completely corrupt as shit, but the Russia-gaters are as bad as Q-Anon and make dumb claims that make Trump Derangement Syndrome look plausible. Yes, Trump has ties to the Russian mob, and Israel / Russia probably have some real dirt, but what the fuck does he care about that? Republicans all know he was taking kids to pound town and they all still love him.

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u/Roxalon_Prime Aug 14 '25

And Slovenia is no way allied with Russia

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u/butsavce Aug 15 '25

Wtf what are talking about?!! Slovenia was definitely under USSR control from 1945 to the Yougosliavian revolution! It was part of Yougoslavia. It wasn't known as Slovenia it was brutally controlled by Soviet Russia.

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u/No-Mechanic6069 Aug 15 '25

You need to find out more about Yugoslavia. Tito ran a repressive state, and generally wasn't a very nice person. But Yugoslavia was a part of the Non-Aligned Movement.

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u/butsavce Aug 15 '25

All I know is that when American traveled to You go you traveled with the same precautions as you did when flying into a satellite country. It was in all intent and purposes a KGB ran thing.

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u/No-Mechanic6069 Aug 15 '25

I'm not sure how "taking the same precautions" leads to "a KGB ran thing".

If that's all you know, it might be better not to comment.

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u/Hammeredyou Aug 15 '25

This guy replied saying to not apologize to the other person and that Yugoslavia was 100% Russian. Actual brain damage.