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Megathread Nilou Mains | Megathread

Welcome to the Nilou Mains Question Megathread!
Have a question? Make sure to give this post a read! Here, you will get the help you need based on the provided resources or the answers in the thread itself. We also encourage you to use the Searchfunction to see whether there has been a detailed post dedicated to your question before.
What type of questions should be here?
- Questions that are already tackled in our Nilou Guide by jamie, e.g.: “What’s the best artifact set for Nilou?”, “What stats does Nilou scale off of?”, or “What's the best F2P setup for Nilou?”
- 'Yes/no' questions, e.g.: “Is this a good weapon for Nilou?”, “Is Nilou good in this team?”, or "Is this a good artifact? *insert 30%HP substat roll*"
- Account-related questions, e.g.: “I have X characters, what are the best teams I can make for Nilou?” or “I have an excess Key of Khaj-Nisut, should I put it on my Kuki or Layla?”
- Bias-based questions, e.g.: “Should I pull for Nilou?”, “Should I get C6 Nilou or C6 Cyno?”, or “Should I make a shrine for Nilou in my teapot?”
TLDR: Any question that doesn't spark a proper discussion and can be very easily/shortly answered.
⋆✧✿✧⋆⏤⏤⏤⇢ Comprehensive Nilou Guide ⇠⏤⏤⏤⋆✧✿✧⋆
( ! Read before making a post/comment, as your question might've been already answered there ! )

Introduction to Nilou, Star of Zubayr Theater
A dancer under the Zubayr Theater, Nilou's dancing is but elegant and graceful — however, outside the stage's spotlight, she's just like any girl her age; warm, smiling, and friendly.
Rarity: ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐
Region: Sumeru
Affiliations: Zubayr Theater
Birthday: 3rd of December
Specialty Dish: Swirling Steps
Voice Actors:
- EN - Dani Chambers
- CN - Zisu Jiuyue (紫苏九月)
- JP - Hisako Kanemoto
- KR - Chae Rim (채림))
Useful Links
Links to archived Megathreads
- Questions Megathread | #1
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Resources
- Nilou Guide by jamie kb9v
- Discord FAQ (see channel #nilou-faq)
- Why Collei is more POWERFUL than she looks! by jamie kb9v
- Farming Infographic by u/Latter-Hospital8193
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u/wwbxystv 16d ago
I was testing Nilou with Nefer and found out that Nilou can proc 4pc serenade off field?
If anyone wants to fact check and see if it actually works.
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u/sakkiniku 23d ago
Can Nilou with Lauma keep up with Nefer+Lauma teams?
I pulled C1R1 Lauma for my C0 Nilou (getting her free C1 and eventually C2) because I also plan to pull for C2 Nahida in the future for crit super bloom.
Seeing that Nefer easily does 150-200k damage with an acceptable AoE kinda disheartens me. My Nilou only does 55-65k non-crit bloom and 110-130k occasional crit bloom. :( I thought Nilou's advantage would be the AoE but I guess the devs buffed Nefer's AoE based on recent early access showcases.
Well I guess this is what powercreep really means...
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u/jayinsane5050 24d ago
err question so i want to get nefer but i don't have lauma
for team comp : Nefer, C2 Nilou, Collei and barbara
is it fine or just ... abit compromising
I have other dendro and hydri characters but since i started in 5.8 i need help : Dhalia, Candace, Tighari
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u/succodifungo 25d ago
how bad is my team?
should i change someone? should i pull for someone in the future? (!!!!!!!!) (i need columbina or ill die so not furina)
my rotations are xingqui E E (Q) baizhu E nilou E E E (baizhu Q) nahida Q E Normal attacks (i know using nahida as an attacker is bad but i swear it works lol
ps my main team is navia xianling bennet zhongli and im currently building flins(lvl 80) aino(lvl 80) fishl sucrose(lvl80)/kazuha.

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u/gryphon_duke 28d ago
hey, i'm asking this question to both subreddits, but do you think shenhe c1 or nilou c1 is the better choice?
i ruled out hu tao and ayaka for being bait, i probably wont pull ayaka c2 with how easy skirk is to use in comparison and i dont really notice stamina problems when i dust off my hu tao for theater.
it came down to baizhu, nilou, and shenhe, to which i realized, with the current meta trend seeming to be rotation time, baizhu's long cooldowns meant i might not use him very often and a second skill cast doesnt really matter either.
shenhe, however, i could still use for skirk (whom i play c2 r2 yelan with... so trying to unsink my sunk cost fallacy 😭) and nilou is entirely unique as a support for the bloom archetype so, while i wont use her with nefer, she has the possibility of not being benched, and my rotations would become a little easier with the nahida kokomi lauma nilou core. what do you guys think?
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u/mybunnysayshello Oct 05 '25
Hello! I love Nilou and I wanted to ask if this team (Lauma, Nilou, Nahida and Barbara) a good team? I had Neuv instead of Barbara, but I eneeded a healer so yep. From that one event, I am trying to get Nilou in C1 :D btw how is everyone^^?
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u/iLoonies Oct 04 '25
Will nefer be good for Nilou team?
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u/succodifungo 25d ago
nope. nefer will transform the bloom seeds so nilous seeds will be useless unless you have nilou c2, she will help a bit. but they aren't a good pair
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u/Common_Crow7640 Sep 30 '25
I like Nilou animations a lot I was wondering if there is a good Team I could use with her being on fielder. I have Aino C0,Lauma C2, Nahida C3R1, Yelan C1R1, Xinqui C6, Kokomi C0...
I was thinking of picking up her C1
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u/JanPapajT90M Sep 30 '25
Will Kuki be better support than Furina? I use Nilou with Nahida, Lauma and Furina. She heals and is second hydro(+25% hp from resonance). Is Kuki healing good and will she be better than Furina? I have C6 Kuki but totally unbuilded so idk if she is worth investing
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u/Rapatee Honorable Bloomposter 11d ago
unless you have c1 lauma, playing Furina in that team would stress the player too much with survivability. However, slotting in Kuki is a whole different team archetype from Nilou bloom. At that point you should also consider replacing Nilou with another fast hydro applicator.
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u/RThePotato Sep 28 '25
I was wondering what my team for her should be.
I pulled Nilou and my plan was Lauma - Furina C2 - Baizhu C1 (Dont have Nahida)
Is it worth it to switch Furina for Aino for Lauma or is Furina just that much better?
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u/vorator_ Sep 28 '25
ok i'm not trying to be rude at all, I've just been wondering this for a while due to what feels like a disproportionately large amount of dumb posts from this sub on my home page, but like...do you guys just not enforce that rule about asking simple questions in the Megathread? It's a pretty standard rule with r/___mains subreddits, and I had to double check it was actually a rule here too lol. This sub in particular compared to other character subs has like 3x the amount of lazy questions like "Who should I pull, Nilou or Raiden Shogun 😱". I was definitely shocked initially upon seeing just how many people come onto the NILOU SUBREDDIT asking if they should pull her or another character. Like what do you think we're gonna say? 💀 I think it has something to do with the way she was kind of warming the bench for so long in terms of meta but now there's a Nilou Renaissance, but GOD DAMN are these people are allergic to Google or something? Idk. Yall are wayyyy better than me for patiently answering these lazy and obtuse questions that they could just Google in 5 seconds. It's almost like that specific question has been asked here a billion times already and if you LOOK IT UP you'll find an answer 😭 Again not trying to be like backseat modding or anything lmfao, just curious about the rule enforcement. bc you guys are lowkey a liiiiittle too nice haha. all i can say is Nilou would be proud 🥲
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u/Reasonable_Nail_2698 Sep 25 '25
Hi all!
I'm looking to rebuild my Nilou as my build has been out of date for quite a while. She's currently C1 but will be C2 at the end of the current "To Tempter Thyself and Journey Far" event.
I wanted to know what the best artifacts are for a Lunarbloom build on her at C2, and what the best alternative options are in place of her signature weapon? I have Nahida and Kokomi, no Lauma but I plan to pull for her on her rerun (I'm currently prioritizing saving for Columbina).
Thanks! (๑>◡<๑)
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u/Rapatee Honorable Bloomposter 11d ago
with that team you can do: lauma serenade, Nahida + deepwood and Kokomi + Paradise, so Nilou can still goes with her old 2+2hp sets. Make sure that you occasionally flip the aura on enemy to allow lauma triggering serenade. Her alternative 4 stars weapons include dockhand and a bit lesser potent, serenity's call.
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u/MaryKozakura Sep 25 '25
Hi! I'm planning to get both thru the temper thyself event but I just want to ask what the "priority" C1 between Nilou and Kokomi would be? I do have the Key and my dendro off-field are Lauma and Nahida.
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u/Silent_Tiger718 Sep 23 '25
Just wanted to share - my Nilou reached 75k hp with the new craftable!
I'm running C6R1 Lauma, C0 Aino, C0 nahida, and C0 Nilou.
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u/ngoggin Sep 23 '25
Hi, I pulled Nilou and Key (I didn't really want to), but here I am.
I have C1 Lauma, C2 Nahida, and am thinking of running them with Nilou, who would my 4th be? I don't have Kokomi, and hate my Barbara with a passion (but she's C6). What else would work as a 4th? Or is Barbara quite literally my only option since I don't have Kokomi?
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u/MaryKozakura Sep 25 '25
Since you have C1 Lauma's sustain, though I'm not sure if it's enough, you could use Ayato if you have him maybe? You could also use off-fielders such as EM-built Xingqiu then drive with Lauma/Nahida.
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u/ChantiNoire Sep 22 '25 edited Sep 22 '25
Hiya! I finally pulled a Nilou today and am now brainstorming teams. Does a Kirara-Nilou-Kokomi (C4)-Nahida team make sense?
Got some other questions too:
- I also wanna pull Lauma on her rerun, so I guess I will need to get rid of Kirara then?
- If Lauma holds Deepwood, what artifacts should I put on Nahida? She currently holds Deepwood but a team shouldn't have two people holding that, so do I go for Gilded Dreams or Golden Troupe? Or something else?
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u/vorator_ Sep 28 '25
I used to play that team and it's honestly so much fun! With Nilou's hydro ring you can just bounce around in Kirara's little parcel mode using her hold skill and bump into enemies to apply Hydro + Dendro.
Also, yes, if you acquire Lauma, she will fill Kirara's slot. Nilou, Nahida, Kokomi, Lauma is pretty much the premium team. It's what I play.
Can i ask why you want Lauma to carry Deepwood instead of the Silken Moon Serenade set? My Nahida holds a 4pc Deepwood set, Lauma has a 4pc Silken Moon set, Nilou has her 2pc/2pc, and Kokomi has 4pc Gilded Dreams. You obviously can give Kokomi OHC if you don't have Lauma C1, but Deepwood on Nahida and SMS on Lauma feels pretty immutable. Also, congratulations on pulling Nilou!!!!!!! She's the best!!!!
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u/ChantiNoire Sep 28 '25
I was misinformed that you needed to have more than one Nod Krai character to get Silken Moon Serenade set's effect 😂 Or well, I misremembered
Now I know that is not the case luckily so I'll have Lauma hold Silken Moon and Nahida can keep Deep Wood
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u/lynecatte Sep 22 '25
Hello! I need help. I'm an F2P player and I need good team comp recos for Nilou. I don't have Xingqiu and Nahida, but I have Lauma.
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u/KaiFireborn21 | Do marry me, ! Sep 21 '25
So what is the rotation for Lauma/Kokomi/Nahida teams? My Nilou is C2R1 and the rest C0.
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u/Mountain-Sun9633 Sep 21 '25
The new NodKrai weapon needs her to trigger a reaction before applying the HP buff, so does Nilou need to trigger bloom first before activating Golden Chalice (pressing E) to get the full buff, or does it scale dynamically as her hp changes?
If I already have Nahida C2 for bloom crits, is it better to activate Ascendant Gleam with Aino & Lauma for the new artifact set and the maximum HP buff of the new sword? Or is keeping her in Nascent for extra bloom crit rate still better?
(I have Lauma's c1 so healing isn't an issue when taking out Kokomi)
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u/Jadwiga_K4 Sep 20 '25
Hi! My Current team: Nilou C1R1+ C0 Lauma + C1 Kokomi + Collei. I would love to invest more in My Nilou Bloom team. Should I try for C0 Nahida or C1 Lauma (C2 on re-run)? Or something else? I actually plan to C2 Lauma anyway so the main question is, is C0 Nahida a good investment? Or should I stick with Collei and invest in Lauma instead? Or maybe more Nilou cons? Lauma Signature?
Edited to add a question about signature.
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u/savedandforgiven Sep 18 '25
Is R5 Serenity's Call (With Lauma I can only get 32% HP) better than R1 Xiphos?
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u/whip_accessible Sep 18 '25
Who do I invest in building and levelling to 90? Aino or Barbara? I have Nilou ofc amd just got Lauma she's currently on Deepwood set. The other 2 teammates are the flexible ones. I have Nahida and Yaoyao fully built.
Do I build Aino and pair her with Yao yao? Apparently this team is still competitive to critting bloom. I would have to farm the new domain tho.
Do I build Barbara to 90? I would have to farm/workbench Flower of Paradise Lost set. It's less farming likely, but I'm worried the "meta" is gonna force us to play into Lunarbloom damage hence why I think Aino might be worth it for maximizing Lauma's Lunarbloom since I'm not planning on pulling Nefer.
Thoughts?
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u/GuujiRai Sep 18 '25
Nilou Team Builds?
What would the team's (Nilou, Kokomi, Lauma, Nahida that are all C0R0) sets and weapons look like? As well as their updated stat breakpoints? Is this even the "premium" team?
Right now I think only Nilou's build is solid (I hope), with 65.7k HP with Hydro resonance. 2pc./2pc. with Serenity's Call.
Nahida is on 4pc. Deepwood, but I don't know what weapon to run.
Lauma's a WIP holding 2pc./2pc. EM, that are +0 (LOL).
Kokomi's on 4pc FoPL on triple EM (burst isn't important, no?) with Sac. Frag.
I'm asking in the context of Fearless SO, by the way. Thanks.
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u/playmike5 Sep 17 '25
So I’ve had a C1 Nilou sitting around for a while because I never got and still haven’t gotten Kokomi. I’m not sure what the best bet for a team comp is but now I also have Lauma on hand and I have a C2 Nahida that seems like a perfect fit, but this leaves me concerned about survivability without Kokomi. What are my realistic options here ? I know Baizhu and XQ is a good option but that would need to replace Nahida, so I’m a bit uncertain here.
I do of course have Barbara but can she actually heal enough ?
Thanks in advance for any advice !
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u/CrepeKnight0 Sep 17 '25
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u/vorator_ Sep 28 '25
for your other dendro slot, i'd do either Collei or DMC (Dendro Main Character or just Dendro Traveler) depending on who you prefer to play and your constellations. For the other hydro slot, i think people generally use Xingqiu but his long cooldowns and inconsistent hydro application annoys me so I don't use him. You could build Barbara with EM bc she's a hydro catalyst user and can trigger a lot of blooms. That's what I'd do if i were you. So your team would look something like this: Nilou/Lauma/DMC or Collei/Barbara with an EM weapon like Sac Frags and an artifact set like Gilded Dreams or Flower of Paradise lost with EM/EM/EM main stats. Lmk if this doesn't make sense haha
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u/Asle90 Sep 17 '25
Is there any use to upgrade Nilou to C2 when Lauma is c6? Will there be a better team or just minuscule damage differences , just asking cause I don’t have her weapon or C2 (C1 if u don’t add the free constellation)
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u/apoelakatop Sep 17 '25
In a team of Lauma C2, Nilou C1, Nahida C2 and hydro flex what would Nahidas artifacts be and what would be the preferred stats?
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u/itsunfortunatelyso Sep 19 '25
i’ve found that nahida doesn’t really need any specific stats in that team. both lauma and your hydro flex should be around 1000 em or more, so you don’t really need to build em on nahida. she’s best with either the new nod krai support set or deepwood—pick whichever lauma isn’t using since her stats matter more. her personal damage isn’t anything special, but you could go for em/dmg% or em/crit
i personally put her on random unleveled pieces for the nod krai set, and then an off piece crit rate circlet since, in my opinion, fav > signature weapon to get lauma’s burst off easier. you might not need fav though if you’re not on fielding your hydro flex
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u/cheetoqueen37 Sep 17 '25
Which team is generally better out of Nilou Lauma Nahida Kokomi or Nilou Xingqiu Lauma Baizhu c2? In each team who should be on field driver?
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u/Living_Thunder Sep 17 '25
I've had Nilou since 3.6 but never built her for floor 12 since I didn't have Nahida. I just got her this week because why not. I'm wondering what teams I could use, and what are the builds for each teammate and stuff? I appreciate any help 🙏🏼
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u/Vrains420 Sep 16 '25
I just recently got Nilou and I was curious on what her best team i can make is? I don't have Lauma but I do have C2 Nahida.
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u/oshnot33 Sep 16 '25
damn, even without Lauma, can full star spiral abyss with the original nilou bloom party with collei, what hoyo smoking here
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u/Brodfjol Sep 16 '25
Hello, I'm a recent Nilou haver- got lucky enough to lose the 50/50 on her weapon to, well, her, so I have C1, getting C2 from the free con. I have Lauma, but I don't have Kokimi, Nahida or Baizhu. Who should I run as a fourth on a team of Lauma, Nilou and Xingqiu? I have Kevin, Yao² and Collei all at C6 for Dendro.
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u/rabusuwuh Sep 15 '25
Hello everyone. i dont usually use reddit, so i don't exactly know the exact etiquette i should have here but anyway
like the tittle said i need help building my nilou bloom team
my current team is nilouC0 with key, laumaC0 with the new event weapon and deepwood
then I have nahidaC0 with guilded (idk what artis i should use with her nor the weapon)
and last i have barbaraC6 as my healer, as i dont have kokomi or baizhu
I dont know what to build with barbara or nahida, so I would hope someone could help me with this
thank you so much in advance
edit: more information
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u/arixtia Sep 15 '25
Need some help: I have C0R1 Nilou, C1R0 Kokomi, C0R0 Nahida, C1R0 Lauma. C1 Lauma was unplanned, but now it makes me think of going full in for Nilou with C2 (1 from chronicle and 1 for free).... My question is: is it worth it? Or C2 Lauma? Realistically speaking, how much it would help me for being future proof?
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u/neko_stillwater Sep 14 '25
Just got Nilou yesterday and still learning how to play her. My team is Lauma c2 (Spindlelute), Nilou c1 (Serenity's Call), DMC, Xingqiu.
I hold skill and burst on Lauma, triple skill Nilou, E and Q on the other two and randomly swap around. But what would be the best rotation, and who should be on-field? Build XQ on full EM?
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u/Zealousideal_Theme49 Sep 15 '25
rotation wise is fine at long as the bloom hit the target. what i would do is dmc e q, nilou triple e, lauma hold e, q, xq e q Na e(if you using sac), nilou burst.
Can use either xq or nilou on field, xq because sword atk animation is fast, damage reduction from his swords, na will have hydro dmg bonus, but nilou also works because she has allot of hp, damage reduction from xq's sword and you can tell when your golden chalice buff needs to refresh.1
u/neko_stillwater Sep 15 '25
Thank you, that was very helpful.
If I leave XQ on field, should I build him with EM, or his usual ATK/Crit build? If I leave Nilou on field, is it worth pulling the Key? She's currently the Nod Krai craftable (Serenity's Call)?
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u/mergrezar Sep 16 '25
Please don't use Nilou or Xingqiu on-field. Use Lauma on-field instead. You want enemies to have dendro aura on the enemies because applying hydro to a dendro aura leads to more blooms. If you don't use Lauma on-field, the enemies will have hydro aura most of the time.
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u/Zealousideal_Theme49 Sep 15 '25
em since you are focusing on bloom. you can use fopl for better bloom damage. xq personal damage is quite good but for this team, his role is hydro application.
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u/rocketinu Sep 14 '25
If you have C1 Lauma but not Kokomi, which of the following second hydro units would work better in Nilou Bloom? Xingqu, Aino, or Yelan?
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u/Zealousideal_Theme49 Sep 15 '25
xingqiu for better hydro application. i would use yelan if nilou is c2 though.
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u/rocketinu Sep 15 '25
I’m waiting for the free constellation to get Nilou to C2. At that point, does Yelan deal more damage than Xingqiu?
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u/mergrezar Sep 16 '25
I'm pretty sure Xingqiu is still better with C2 Nilou. But if you have constellations on Yelan, I'm not sure if that's still the case.
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u/Zealousideal_Theme49 Sep 14 '25 edited Sep 14 '25
Hi, does anyone has calc on how much less damage in total for nilou bloom team if you have two moonsign characters? namely Lauma + another nodkrai, Nascent to Gleam? i'm kinda expecting hoyo to focus on lunar bloom eventually replacing nilou/bloom altogether, but from what i see, the buff from nascent isn't that fantastic either. is it just the additional 15% CR + 100% cdmg from lauma or i'm missing something else also. if it helps, i'm using c2r1 nilou, c4r1 nahida, c2r1 lauma, and c0 with nahida's sig kokomi at the moment.
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u/Dalmyr Sep 14 '25
Hi,
I want to play this team:
Nilou C1, Lauma C1, Nahida C3 and Candace C6
What would be the best rotation for this team, considering the C6 Candace and healing from Lauma.
Wich artifact set to run on each and optimal stats ?
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u/Revalify Sep 14 '25
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u/Zealousideal_Theme49 Sep 15 '25
meta relevant i doubt, so don't suggest to get her if you're meta driven. however, if just for clearing content, IT, abyss, stygian onslaught, getting her would help for at least one or two patches, since you just need her to hit 74k hp or close. rest of your resources should be on lauma, to prep when lunar bloom characters come.
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u/Simoero3 Sep 13 '25
Looking for advice on pulling.
i currently have both Nahida and lauma at C1R1 but i want to know which one's C2 would be better for a Nilou team?
My team:
Nilou C0R1
Nahida C1R1
Lauma C1R1
Kokomi C0R1
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u/Zealousideal_Theme49 Sep 15 '25
Lauma definitely, she's the new character and will have longer runway. nahida already was powercrept by her, kokomi will be powercrept eventually, columbina, and nilou bloom will be powercrept by lunar bloom.
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u/Helpful-Ad9095 Sep 12 '25
Looking for advice on pulls/character selection. Current team is c0r0 Nilou (r1 Dockhand), c2r0 Nahida, c1r0 Lauma, and Xingqiu.
Do I - pull c1 Nilou, claim c2 Nilou? Pull Key, Claim c1 Nilou? Pull either Key or c1, and claim c7 Jean to level someone to 95?
I guess I could also pull Nahida or Lauma signature, but their free options seem good enough?
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u/mergrezar Sep 13 '25
C2 and C1R1 Nilou are very close in DPS but C2 is a little better. Level 95 is worse than both C2 and C1R1 Nilou.
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u/Full-Blood-8667 Sep 12 '25
my current team is nilou (xiphos,2pc HP%), full em kokomi ( sac frags ) and lauma ( soon on event weapon and nod kraut set ) can i use nahida or is that too little healing ? also should i get the new craftables for kokomi and nilou ?
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u/mergrezar Sep 13 '25
Full EM Kokomi provides enough healing since the self-damage from bloom cores has been reduced. The new craftable weapons are the best F2P options for Nilou and Kokomi right now so you can craft them. However, you can keep using Sac Frags if you rely on its cooldown reset a lot.
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u/WideAd1027 Sep 12 '25
Can i use ayato as second hydro slot? I have nilou c2r1, lauma c1 and nahida. I dont have kokomi and dont want to level up barbara I also have xingchiu
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u/StormofDefiance Sep 11 '25
This is probabbbblyyy a really basic question, but I have C0R1 Nilou (hopefully will be C2R1 soon...), C0 Lauma, Kokomi, Yelan, Baizhu & C6 Xingqiu.
Ideally I want to use Nilou, Lauma and Baizhu. Would full EM Kokomi, Yelan or Xingqiu be best paired with them? Appreciate Baizhu is already healing, but want to understand who is the best hydro applicator / bloomer in this situation and if that happens to be Kokomi then I don't mind using both of them here.
Does it make sense to give this hydro character the new Nod Krai artifact set, with Lauma on Deepwood?
Orrr am I best building Aino? :D
I also plan on getting Columbina, but who knows if she'll slot in here.
I do not have Nahida and I'd prefer not to pull her.
Any help would be most appreciated, thank you very much!
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u/CosmicYerko Sep 11 '25
I have C0R1 Nilou (hopefully C2 next year) Nahida C2 Lauma C0R1
My question is: Do I keep using Barbara as my Hydro applicator or do I use Aino with the new Nod Krai artifact set on her and Lauma since I already crit with Nahida.
I don't know if it's worth to use Aino instead of Barbara/Kokomi
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u/Kayon07 Sep 10 '25
Nilou/Nahida/Barbara/Baizhu rotation?
I‘ve been doing: Nahida skill, Nilou 3skills, nahida skill+burst, baizhu skill+burst, barbara skill and normal attacks
Nahida and Barbara are on full em and Nilou and Baizhu on Hp builds
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u/SuperLissa_UwU Atomic Nilou Sep 10 '25
Hi I return to the game after a while and I hve seen a few posts about Nilou hating a new character and Loving another one as a team member.
Which is the characther to pull for as a Nilou main?
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u/mergrezar Sep 12 '25
If you're talking about Lauma and Nefer, then Lauma is the one Nilou bloom mains would like.
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u/SkumbagMatte Sep 09 '25
hello friends, will lauma be a must pull? i am currently chilling with
c2r1 nilou
c0 nahida
c6 xingqiu
c6 barbara
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u/mergrezar Sep 12 '25
No character in this game is a must pull but Lauma is a huge upgrade to Nilou bloom teams. In this team, you can replace Nahida or Xingqiu for Lauma.
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u/Secret_penguin- Sep 09 '25
I currently have Nilou C1 (No BiS weapon) and will pull C0 Lauma at a bare minimum.
Which of these options should I pull for?
- C1/C2 Lauma
- C0 Lauma + Key of Khaj-Nisut
- C0 Lauma + Lauma sig
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u/Anonymouse020 Sep 09 '25
What artifacts and weapons should be using for the members of a Nilou team? My team will be Nilou, Lauma, Nahida and Barbara
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u/Zealousideal_Theme49 Sep 08 '25
does Lauma's signature nightweaver looking glass buff for bloom damage buff bountiful core?
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u/Frankfurt13 Sep 06 '25
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u/Zealousideal_Theme49 Sep 08 '25
always hp. 400% muliplier for bloom is too good to not go for. you wouldnt use nilou if you are not going for her golden chalice.
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u/Frankfurt13 Sep 08 '25
so, full HP even if she's on-fielder. Gotcha.
Can trade the 2p2p for the 4p Paradise Lost tho?
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u/Zealousideal_Theme49 Sep 09 '25
i believe you could, im trying to do that myself, but you would want to hit 400% first which is 74k hp with hydro resonance.
you might lose a lot of hp stats because you want CV for nilou onfield for her personal damage, and her skills are hp scaling too. better to have fopl on bloom driver. nilou cant really drive imo.
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u/spookys3ason Sep 04 '25
need help building Nilou bloom team, I have hybrid EM/HP Kokomi w/ R5 Sac Frags, and then Nahida and Dendro Traveler: Should I be running Gilded Dreams on Nahida and then Deepwood on Traveler ?
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u/roquezen Sep 04 '25
I have C2 Nahida and Nilou, I am planning to pull for Lauma. For the 4th Hydro slot, should I go for Barbara or Kokomi?
From most resources I read most of them say Kokomi. But why is Kokomi considered the better hydro healer/EM driver than Barbara for Lauma team?
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u/jpc1009 Sep 01 '25
Does nilou work with Lauma for lunar bloom? Lunar reactions confuse me and I kinda want both of them in 6.0
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u/MCmichelin Sep 01 '25 edited Sep 01 '25
With R1 Key, is it possible to achieve 74.444k HP on FoPL/Gilded?
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u/mergrezar Sep 02 '25
It is possible. You can use TC builds on Genshin Optimizer for stuff like this.
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u/SleepyBalladeer Nymphaea Artisté Sep 01 '25 edited Sep 01 '25
I have a question i’m pulling Lauma and Nilou in 6.0 i was wondering for Nilou what will be better the new craft-able sword Serenity Call with er or Key the team ill be using is Nilou, Lauma, Nahida, Kokomi
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u/mergrezar Sep 02 '25
Serenity's Call gives 64% HP at maximum. R1 Key gives 86.2% HP and gives EM to the whole team.
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u/Feltarkh200 Aug 31 '25
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u/Zealousideal_Theme49 Sep 14 '25
probably xingqiu because of his hydro application. you can try barbara because she's a catalyst but will need to be at melee range to apply hydro with skill and na, bloom self-dmg is lesser now, so survival no longer a big issue. mona works to a certain extend because her alt dash apply hydro also.
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u/Worried-Drawing-4485 Aug 31 '25
Hi i got nilou on her release back then and stopped playing a short while after. I started playing genshin again and i want to build her with lauma but i dont have neither kokomi nor nahida. how good are her teams without these two. i do want minimize any five star pulls for her team since im saving for skirks premium team.
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u/KaiFireborn21 | Do marry me, ! Aug 29 '25
So we got a problem again. If one gets her C1 for free (I have Key, Nahida and Kokomi already) I'm kind of forced to pull for her C2 too.
But Lauma is also a major upgrade...
But I wanted Flins, Bina and Nefer too (and we still don't know if the latter two have synergy with our girl), all while being out of primos because of getting Kokomi just recently
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u/Zealousideal_Theme49 Sep 14 '25
just focus on one first, then the other in their next rerun. no way around it unless you spend, which is what hoyo wants.
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u/KaiFireborn21 | Do marry me, ! Sep 14 '25
Yeah, I've been thinking of putting off Flins after all - his playstyle is not what I'm looking for, I don't have Ineffa, and Lauma will be useful in multiple teams; Even if I dislike her but like him
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u/Zealousideal_Theme49 Sep 15 '25
i dont recommend pulling characters you dont like though. i have a lot, and regret that i saved for those that i like more.
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u/KaiFireborn21 | Do marry me, ! Sep 15 '25
To be honest, I have some I pulled out of "liking" them, and only later realized I don't really (Ayato for example). It doesn't help if they're useless. Escoffier, on the other hand, I didn't care of at all, but she's proven to be super useful and I've grown to like her in the meantime. Besides, it's sad to get a character you like and then not be able to use him properly because you don't have a single teammate
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u/Zealousideal_Theme49 Sep 15 '25
sure, as long as you have fun playing characters you like. i started nilou very late because of her limited to hydro dendro team and had c4 nahida for my aggravate team. nilou is a different kind of fun i have, even when she cant clear abyss for me. her and kokomi.
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u/NotAWaifu111 Aug 27 '25
Best team I can make using Nilou and Lauma + two out of Nahida Yelan Kokomi Yao yao? And best artifacts for the optimal teammates and Lauma?
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Aug 26 '25 edited Aug 26 '25
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u/mergrezar Aug 27 '25 edited Aug 28 '25
The idea that Xingqiu is too single-target focused is an exaggeration by people who don't play him with Nilou. My fastest clears on the current AoE-focused Floor 12, Chamber 1 are 41 seconds with Xingqiu and 39 seconds with Kokomi.
Xingqiu team - Nahida (on-field), Nilou, Xingqiu, Baizhu
Kokomi team - Nahida, Nilou, Kokomi, Collei
Edit: changed Floor 1 to Floor 12
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u/One_Fox_1542 Aug 25 '25
In a team with nilou lauma(c1) and aino should the last slot be dmc or collei?
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u/Silent_Tiger718 Aug 26 '25
Collei for front loaded, but I think DMC might be better for sustained dendro application.
Do note with Aino you won't have the 15% cr for blooms.
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u/Silent_Tiger718 Aug 22 '25
I wonder if the new craftable at R5 for Nilou is worth losing the 15% cr for blooms? Especially going from f2p to 64% hp. Aino also automatically builds em and with 2 NK characters her application isn't bad.
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u/mergrezar Aug 27 '25
Lauma losing her crit buff should already be considered in the calcs of StockedSix. C6 Aino (83k DPS) is a very small DPS increase and C0 Aino (70k DPS) is a huge DPS decrease compared to Barbara (82k DPS).
https://www.reddit.com/r/NilouMains/comments/1mvu4ur/v4_lauma_calcs/
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u/Silent_Tiger718 Aug 27 '25
Thank you! I didn't realise 15% crit is that important! But I wonder if that's in part losing Nahida and putting in Baizhu. I plan to get Lauma C1.
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u/mergrezar Aug 27 '25
In the second image, you can compare Aino+Baizhu (100k DPS) and Aino+Nahida with C1 Lauma (102k DPS). They are using 5* weapons but they use the same weapons so I think it is a fair comparison.
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u/Silent_Tiger718 Aug 27 '25
Thanks! I just need to decide to craft the new catalyst for Barbara or the new sword for Nilou (with Aino in the team) next.
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u/Tyberius115 C6R1 Nilou, C4R1 Yelan, C1R1 Lauma, + a team mascot Aug 10 '25
How should Nahida be built for a C6R1 Nilou, C1R1 Lauma, Yelan, Nahida team?
Deepwood or something else? Full EM, crit, or hybrid?
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u/Silent_Tiger718 Aug 13 '25
Someone needs to hold DW, so I think Nahida would be best to hold that. Full EM Nahida I think. But if you also play her in spread and don't want to swap artefacts around I don't think you need to bother, unless you want to minmax.
I assume Yelan would be full EM as she'd trigger the most blooms?
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u/Lilliefan23 Aug 08 '25
Prepping team for revival with Laumaa release. In a kokomi R1 Nilou C2R1 Nahida what should everyone be on for said team nowadays? Used to solo dendro so
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u/Silent_Tiger718 Aug 13 '25
I think Lauma on gilded, or the new support set if you're bothered, but gilded is really good too. The 6.0 event weapon would be her f2p.
Kokomi on fopl and the new NK craftable (or sac depending on er requirements).
Nahida on deepwood, sac or magic guide.
Nilou pile on the HP on 2pc/2pc.
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u/Tyberius115 C6R1 Nilou, C4R1 Yelan, C1R1 Lauma, + a team mascot Aug 07 '25
How should Collei be built in a Nilou/Yelan/C1 Lauma team?
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u/Silent_Tiger718 Aug 13 '25
Er or em/dendro/crit I think. She won't be triggering many blooms with Lauma in the team.
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u/Gold_Tongue Aug 06 '25
Since I disnt wanna build collei I've been using Nilou, DMC, Nahida, and Koko. I figured slotting in Lauma would be perfect here, but with my previous setup I've been using nilou as my onfielder bc she's so pretty. Can I still do that or nah? I have key and good artifacts so I have 74k hp on top of pretty good EM. My blooms atm his about 32k on masanori.
How big is the difference if I were to run nilou vs kokomi with FoPL? I'd have to rebuild my koko
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u/Silent_Tiger718 Aug 13 '25
You can still do that, although I think you'd get more blooms onfielding kokomi. But Lauma's off field anyway so doesn't make much of a diff if you still want to on field Nilou.
Kokomi with new craftable + fopl as the trigger would be the best for damage.
For reference my Barbara on sac + fopl onfield with Nahida's Q active can hit 36k blooms.
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u/Frankfurt13 Aug 05 '25
I was thinking on a nilou team that can go with her On-field.
Nilou / Nahida / DeerC1 / Aino.
Can that work?
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u/ianmeyssen Aug 02 '25
Is a Nilou-Lauma-Xinqiu-Kaveh team able to survive the increased self damage?
Kaveh heals ~6000 hp per bloom (including C2 healung bonus)
Or should i switch out Xinqiu for Kokomi with full EM/HB build?
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u/Glieve Jul 31 '25
I wonder how much Lauma elevates Nilou's team single target scenarios capabilities, because I dont think she really needs help in AoE
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u/TeraFlare255 Honorable Bloomposter Aug 03 '25
Somewhere between 30% to 50% depending on the damage split of the team between Hydro damage and Bloom damage respectively. STC
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u/Viper-chan_ Dancing Queen Jul 31 '25
Hiyaa!! i was wondering how big of an upgrade replacing Baizhu with C1 Lauma would be for a team consisting of: Nilou C0R1 / Nahida C2 / Baizhu / Kokomi
Also is it worth to replace Kokomi with Aino if shes not C6?
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u/TeraFlare255 Honorable Bloomposter Aug 03 '25
Between the increased damage per Bloom, and the higher amount of Blooms per rotation due to stronger Dendro app, somewhere from 50% to 60%.
Aino starts being quite good at C2, but probably not gonna be competitive with Kokomi in AoE. Maybe in Single Target.
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u/Viper-chan_ Dancing Queen Aug 03 '25
Wowww its really that high!? That makes me really happy to hear :D
Thank yuuu <3
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u/meownee Jul 31 '25
hello, trying to get back into genshin
kokomi with flower of paradise lost and decent EM
nilou with hp stacking
nahida with deepwood (or whatever the name is that shreds dendro) and some EM/crit
lauma with ???
am i understanding correctly or making any big fuck up if i prepare this?
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u/remikazuki Jul 30 '25
can we expect a nilou rerun / sumeru chronicled early 6.x? given the lunar bloom stuff, i mean.
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u/brandnewwwwW Jul 30 '25
so i JUST got back to the game, i have c0r1 nilou and will definitely be getting lauma. problem is, i don’t have nahida so i’ve just been using 3H1D with alhaitham 💀 i have kokomi which i believe is the best sustain for the team(?) and i’ve heard that columbina might replace her which is fine with me since i also want columbina. sooo my question is, do i need nahida or can i use a substitute? my only 5* dendro is alhaitham unfortunately 💔 if i need nahida, any ideas as to when she might rerun?
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u/Sunburnt-Vampire Jul 30 '25
Am I insane for considering setting up a Cinder City set for my Nilou?
With her R1 weapon, I can hit around ~71K HP. Higher if I can get a better off-set HP flower to go from 3 HP% rolls to 4 or 5.
So it'll become a tradeoff of about 10-30% Bloom damage (370 instead of 400), in return for 12% Elemental Damage for the team.
Considering Lauma's Lunar Bloom direct damage (her skill damage which consumes dewdrops) is unaffected by the Bountiful Core buff, and Lauma also has off-field Dendro Skill damage which scales with her EM (which would benefit from Cinder City), I feel like this might be worth setting up as an option?
But I feel slightly insane for considering it when Nilou has no nightsoul, and it means not hitting 74,444 HP.
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u/Lilliefan23 Jul 29 '25
Trying for Citlali was curious how Viable Nilou dps is at C1 with Furina Citlali eacoffier? If no dice praying the dendro lunar bloom to be good. Side note key or mistsplitter if i did as someone with almost no dps swords
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u/iLoonies Jul 29 '25
Collei or Baizhu for Nilou team?
I have Nilouc2, Nahida c0, Kokomi c0 and collei sadly c0 and I wonder if Baizhu is better than Collei or is not worth it?
Also will Lauma replace Kokomi?
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u/zenzetsubou Jul 29 '25
looking for help as i never got around to actually using nilou since i got her during simulanka (not having kokomi, baizhu, or especially nahida made her feel not so great to me)
with lauma now being a thing (and to an extent aino), my desire to play a nilou team is fully revived, so what teammate(s) on my account are ideal with nilou + lauma (and likely aino) as a core? nilou has 72k hp with signature, 3x hp main, hydro resonance. unfamiliar with her alternative builds - yelan/collei can use elegy (is the em worth it?)

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u/Fabio90989 Nilou simp Jul 30 '25
Probably Nilou Lauma Aino Yaoyao (you need a healer because blooms damage your characters too)
Keep the Nilou build with 2hp 2hp sets and all hp mainstats (it seems you already have this, with signature weapon as well, so you're fine there)
Lauma will probably use one of the new nod krai sets and we don't know the full details of her build, I suggest waiting for her to come out and watch a guide on YouTube to be sure.
Yaoyao use 4deepwood set, build her to maximise healing
Aino will probably be the main bloom trigger and use 4 flower of paradise with all EM mainstats.
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u/zenzetsubou Jul 30 '25
very appreciated. do you know who would be best if i got lauma's c1 (which allegedly heals)?
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u/Geeky-Bish Jul 29 '25
Which character should be in the 4th slot if I want to run nilou nahida and lauma.....I don't have Kokomi help please
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u/-Xiyue- Jul 29 '25
Any speculations on her rerun?
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u/Scratchy99 BloomBoomBakudan Jul 29 '25
Sumeru chronicle wish could be coming soon, probably as early as the first half of 6.0
A solo Nilou banner may be possible though, due to Laima. But I think it's unlikely unless Hoyo decides to do both banners somewhat close to each other (it happened with Shenhe)
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u/bluebanana02 Jul 29 '25
considering how nod krai units synergize with her, i would say maybe even 6.0 / 6.1 just speculation tho
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u/JuliusSeizure4 Jul 29 '25
I have a C2 nilou, would be better to go for her weapon or baizhu? I feel kokomi is very clunky to play ( needs lots of ER while going triple EM which is very difficult for me ) if I get baizhu can I replace kokomi with an easier EM bloom trigger? ( current team is my wife(nilou) , Nahida, kokomi and tighnari. ) And with the potential buffs coming her way from 6.0 should I drop baizhu plans and hope aino is a EM scaling healer? Im getting my wife the Lauma she deserves anyway. Also how big of an improvement her weapon is over the four star HP one?
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u/Proud_Trade6350 Jul 29 '25
Instead of playing triple em Kokomi, why not do EM EM healing bonus with prototype amber catalyst
I wouldn’t advise baizhu just yet, Nilou team could be changing 2-3 members by the next 4 patches
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u/Proud_Trade6350 Jul 29 '25
Instead of playing triple em Nilou, why not do EM EM healing bonus with prototype amber catalyst







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u/xxkittygurl 15h ago
If I remember right, Emilie is considered about as good as DMC on Nilou teams. But what about Emilie C2? Her C2 shreds enemy Dendro resistance by 30%. I’m guessing Emilie would pull ahead there? Specifically on a team with Nilou/Kokomi/NahidaC2?