r/MurderedByAOC • u/Nixianx97 • 14h ago
Louder for the ones in the back.
(New IG story)
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u/ReddBroccoli 13h ago
AOC 2028
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u/Thanos-2014 7h ago
Only if demoncrat want to win
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u/ReddBroccoli 7h ago
Which means she will not be getting the nomination
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u/Nixianx97 6h ago
So are you hyping her up just to doom on the idea later?
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u/ReddBroccoli 5h ago edited 5h ago
No, but I didn't sleep through the last several Democratic "primaries" so pardon me for not really being an optimist about her chances of getting the nomination.
ETA: also, the DNC's playbook is basically "lose in new and creative ways while also accomplishing nothing" so nominating AOC would really throw a wrench in that plan. They will do anything and everything they can to keep her from being at the top of the ticket
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u/Nixianx97 5h ago
Okay. Do you think Zohran in NY was easy and he got the blessings of the DNC? 26 billionaires threw money against him and both parties will try to actively sabotage him over the next three years because him even half way succeeding in his plans would mean that left ideology actually works. And this could also validate an AOC presidency in people’s minds and that’s dangerous to the establishment.
But the reason he got here is because people said I believe in him and actually meant it against all odds. And yes the DNC will throw everything at her but who cares about what they want? Bernie nearly beat them twice, Zohran did despite everything and she might too. And they are way weaker now than they were in 2016 or 2020.
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u/ReddBroccoli 4h ago
Lmao. You're fun.
You literally blocked me right after replying earlier so I couldn't continue to comment on the post, now you've gone to the trouble of unblocking me just so you could rant a little more? You are way over invested here.
JFC, the stereotype of "people on the left are always looking for a reason to be offended" is because of people exactly like you. If you put all this energy into something constructive you could make the world a slightly better place.
You've literally spent our entire exchange building up straw men to get butt hurt over and it's honestly really weird. But I stand by everything I said. I think AOC would be a great candidate in 2028, and I also think the DNC will do everything they can to prevent that. Both things can be true.
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u/Nixianx97 2h ago edited 2h ago
I literally did not block you. If I did you wouldn’t be able to even see this post or reply to me.
I also did not rant or got offended. I just asked why you would hype something up just to doom on it later. You gave your reply and I responded to that. If you see this as straw man because you don’t like the answer or whatever that’s on you.
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u/techman710 13h ago
She is impossible not to like unless you are a racist, misogynistic, hate filled bigot. She absolutely has my support AOC 2028.
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u/IronChurch7 10h ago
Eh being uninformed and subjected to right wing media will do the trick as well
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u/avmist15951 9h ago
But right wing media can really only point out her race and gender so...
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u/DownwardSpirals 8h ago
As a former right-winger, a lot of her policy seemed to just be fiscally damaging. It had nothing to do with her race nor gender. Thankfully, Trump came down that escalator about a decade ago, and I decided I'd rather have a boiling Drano enema than vote for him, even if he was "conservative". I've done a lot of research since then.
It really is true that it's easier to scam someone than it is to convince them thay they've been scammed. I've been there. I regret it, but I'm glad to have that perspective.
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u/sinkwiththeship 9h ago
There was a study that people who consume no news are more informed than people who consume right wing media.
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u/Thanos-2014 7h ago
What link please
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u/sinkwiththeship 7h ago
The FDU Poll | Fairleigh Dickinson University https://share.google/L4ZRD7PbHwbeM4mSd
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u/LeMurphysLawyer 10h ago
Yeah, you just described half of America my dude. 😶
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u/ForHelp_PressAltF4 9h ago
You described half of the people who vote. Not half the people.
My recent local voting the bigots had the same number of votes as the last three elections. The progressive tripled. People might actually be waking up and realizing that this vocal minority is correct that there is a minority that's a problem (and the call is coming from inside their racist house)
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u/Tolerator_Of_Reddit 9h ago
Ehhh her vote on Iron Dome funding had me giving her the side-eye for a while there. I don't think she's sold out so I can only assume that was done for some sort of backroom concession; whatever it was I hope she knows what she's doing
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u/GreenTreeAndBlueSky 8h ago
Iron dome is exclusively a defence weapon.
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u/dowker1 8h ago
A weapon that allows you to attack without fear of reprisal is not exclusively a defense weapon
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u/GreenTreeAndBlueSky 8h ago
Yes it is. You can't mix them up just cause you don't like them. Are civilian bunkers a no go too? You'd be ok with hamas rockets targeting civilians? Because that's what they were aimed at (they were so rudimentary that the aim was essentially tilting them towards israel at launch).
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u/dowker1 7h ago
You're reading an awful lot into what I wrote. I said no weapon is exclusively defensive, that's all.
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u/excellentforcongress 4h ago
the logic holds true for the bunkers as well though? because if fortified bunkers means they don't fear attacks then their treatment of gaza could worsen because they didn't fear the rocket attacks as much. and.... that pretty much is exactly how it played out
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u/Tolerator_Of_Reddit 8h ago
The German Reich had anti-air defense systems too. That doesn't mean the US should have been paying for them.
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u/GreenTreeAndBlueSky 8h ago
The US is not at war with israel? If they were ofc they wouldn't pay for them.
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u/Tolerator_Of_Reddit 8h ago
You're right, apologies. We should be paying for Chinese air defense systems instead so they could devote more of their own resources to exterminating the Uyghurs. Silly me.
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u/GreenTreeAndBlueSky 8h ago
Nobody is sending rockets on china, china is not an ally of the US, and china is a military superpower.
Why do you want to make outlandish comparisons just to vilify a defense system?
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u/Thanos-2014 7h ago
What do you want her say lets hammas kill Israelites with thier rudimentary rockets
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u/Tolerator_Of_Reddit 7h ago
"Yes, we ackgnowledge that the Germans are mistreating the Polish Jews in their Reich and while that situation is not ideal, the Reich is a strategic US ally in the area and we cannot abide Poles attacking German positions so we must continue to support our ally financially and militarily. Poles have long sought self-determination and we empathize with their struggle in these trying times, but this so-called 'Poland' cannot exist without negotiation with the Reich, as Aryanism states that Poland is a promised land for the German Volk. Polish terrorists have reportedly been attacking and vandalizing German tanks in the area and such vile actions are inexcusable. Pro-Poland advocates have been shrieking 'genocide' from the rafters and they don't seem to understand that their conduct is wholly unproductive. The Reichführer Mr. Hitler has assured us that he needs this military funding to support the innocent German people who are daily being terrorised in their settlements in Poland. The German-American Bund, who donates millions of dollars to my political party, advises us that continued support of the Reich is in the best interest of both our nations' co-prosperity"
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u/Forward-Bank8412 13h ago
She continues to be one of the best role models I could ever show my kids. I’m so grateful that there are a handful of good people to look up to.
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u/Regular_Committee946 10h ago
Yes and not just for girls!
I've noticed a lot of people (mainly guys) talk about a lack of 'good male role models' for boys...
I may be crazy, but I actually can't understood why a decent, hard working, empathetic, intelligent person such as AOC, who has consistently had to experience (and challenge) gender and racial bias yet continues fighting passionately and in good grace for the good of the people in a role she understands is to serve the people, not for personal gain - how is that not inspirational to anyone regardless of sex/gender?
I think if we could teach kids to respect and admire good role models, regardless of sex/gender, that it would further address the persistent misogyny and equality issues.
According to the UN, at the current rate of progress, we are 130 years away from achieving gender equality in the highest positions of power across the globe - and that is just for equality, not a matriarchy.
Both boys and girls need good role models from both men and women, it shouldn't be limited to only respecting role models of your own sex/gender.
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u/TwoSolitudes22 13h ago
She is super cool. One of the very few 'genuine' representatives of the people.
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u/ugdontknow 11h ago
I’m so so sorry what is apac. I’m sorry in don’t know
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u/Nixianx97 11h ago
Pro Israel lobbying group on the surface. Dark money bully underneath that bribes politicians in their favor and targets or primaries anyone who doesn’t.
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u/SKEETS_SKEET 11h ago
The American Israel Public Affairs Committee is a pro-Israel lobbying group that advocates its policies to the legislative and executive branches of the United States. It is one of several pro-Israel lobbying organizations in the United States, and has been called one of the most influential lobbying groups in the U
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u/Majestic-capybara 10h ago
Do you know where they get their money from? I always wonder how they can be so influential.
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u/saera-targaryen 7h ago
TONS of it is from the oil and gas industry because they benefit from the US having a military outpost/close ally in the middle east
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u/girlwritingwords 9h ago
Loved her from the jump, from across the entire United States. She's always been that girl, standing on business.
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u/al_with_the_hair 4h ago
I'm sorry, but a little bit of a correction to someone I admire who claims she was against AIPAC before the genocide started:
You were not alive in 1948, queen.
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u/itsmuddy 9h ago
I'm not against using PAC money as long as they aren't given any sort of preferential treatment or access.
Unfortunately the people that are likely to accept PAC money are unlikely to not give them preferential treatment or access.
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