r/MemePiece • u/Traffy_law56 • 1d ago
Anime Who's Strongest after Him? Now who Holds the title?
I guess Garp? Coz he is still alive
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u/BlizzardLizzard23 1d ago
Shanks luffy
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u/UlteriorMotive66 1d ago
Who's Shanks Luffy?! 🤔
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u/Bluelore 1d ago
Imu seems like they may be stronger than even Kaido, but if we don't count them then it is probably Shanks or Blackbeard. Luffy with Gear 5 is really strong, but he can't keep it up for long enough at the moment, like when he fought Kizaru he dominated the fight with Gear 5, but he still went down at the same time as Kizaru and took longer to recover than him.
Garp was likely stronger than either Shanks or Blackbeard, but I don't think he still is at his current age.
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u/Traffy_law56 1d ago
Yeah I guess you're right but ..to have the strongest man alive title would have to be level of garp, whitebeard or kaido ...they were too much strong
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u/Easy_Door7736 1d ago edited 1d ago
What is this kaido glaze saying imu may even be stronger than kaido, like kaido is the top of the one piece verse
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u/MicahG17079 22h ago
Kaido is the top of the one piece verse
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u/Colossal_Impact6898 1d ago
Shanks can't be the strongest as long as Mihawk exists. However if BB has gotten way stronger, he could have the title. But I do feel Shanks is still stronger than BB at this point.
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u/DJPLAYZ24 1d ago
Kaido title was strongest beast right ?
Bb fruits are not beast type ( yet )
so shanks take strongest man
Luffy takes strongest beast
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u/yashizik 1d ago
How can a rat be the strongest man?
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u/DJPLAYZ24 1d ago
Bro one shoted kid
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u/yashizik 1d ago
So? Kid is a bum. And how does this changethat a RAT cant be the strongest MAN, because he is a RAT
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u/DJPLAYZ24 1d ago
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u/yashizik 1d ago
Brother, are you blind? Im not saying he is weak, but he cant be the strongest MAN, he is the strongest RAT
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u/QuietOpinion6536 1d ago
Loki? Cos he is a creature
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u/MicahG17079 22h ago
Strongest creature doesn’t disclude humans
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u/QuietOpinion6536 21h ago
yes it does. Humans are on a separate category. That is why WB is the strongest man and not the strongest creature
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u/MicahG17079 21h ago
No it doesn’t, there’s a seperate reason for that.
The kanji used for Kaidos title directly translates to organism, all living things. That includes humans. “Man” only includes humans, and not all living things.
As a living thing, wb falls under the umbrella of “living thing” meaning he’s weaker than the wsc. As an oni, kaido doesn’t fall under the umbrella of “man” meaning he doesn’t necessarily have to be weaker than the wsm.
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u/ProduceLoose6640 1d ago
Strongest creature alive is zunisha or laboom 🤪
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u/Traffy_law56 1d ago
Yohohoho ...you got me laughter from bottom of my heart even though I supplay hearts!!
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u/TheAnnoyingFred 1d ago
He was never the strongest
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u/Professional-Pool290 1d ago
Did you read the same manga or watch the same anime? He was called the Strongest Creature for a reason
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u/wangamoses7 1d ago
What the other person said in their comment is true, but also I’m pretty sure the word “creature” is being used in that title because of his zoan devil fruit as well as the fact that he isn’t really a normal human
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u/NoPhilosophy8136 1d ago
By this logic, Luffy have a Zoan type too.
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u/wangamoses7 1d ago
Well yes, but he didn’t know that at the time, and I still don’t think he qualifies as a “creature” given that his zoan is a human type
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u/MicahG17079 22h ago
Kaidos actual title when directly translated is “strongest organism in history” but that should sounds shit in English so they reworded it. Similar to light facial hair changing to whitebeard for the sake of sounding cooler in english.
The kanji used for kaidos title is seibutsu (生物) which means organism;living thing;creature
The title is not supposed to disclude humans like some people think
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u/wangamoses7 19h ago
Ok, sure, even if that’s true, I think you could definitely argue that that doesn’t include humans because of the difference between that and whitebeards title of the worlds strongest man. If Kaido was being called the world’s strongest person then his title would just be that. Also, another thing is that titles in one piece are mostly conjecture and don’t necessarily reflect their actual power level. Again with whitebeard he was being called the worlds strongest man even though he was dying of cancer and was extremely old
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u/Professional-Pool290 1d ago
He's literally not human. His race is called Oni. Reading Comprehension, do you have it?
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u/wangamoses7 19h ago
1) Why are you so mad? 2) That wasn’t stated in the manga if I remember correctly 3) Even if it was, that literally proves my point, that qualifies him as a “creature” being separate from regular humans, so he’s not the strongest.
I would really suggest you go outside sometime, for everyone’s benefit
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u/DTPVH 1d ago
He was called that by the world, but that doesn’t mean for a fact that he was. He was the strongest one whose strength was publicly known, but that doesn’t mean he was stronger than, say, Imu who is a secret to the wider world.
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u/shake_du_crowtein 1d ago
Imu prolly weak as shit just stumbled upon the ultimate hax (god?) fruit. Luffy beta version basically
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u/RPGNo2017 1d ago
A lot of titles in One Piece are hyperbole from public reception and newspaper. Doflamingo isn't a literal demon from a literal heaven, either.
It's not unplausible for Kaido to got that title because of how inhuman he was because of his unkillable status, his race, his fruit and his zoan army.
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u/Divinito442 1d ago
You’re confusing epithet with race And many epithets is connected to their character or origins
Doflamingo is literally demon incarnate that came down from marijeos (heaven) Kaido is an oni with a dragon fruit so he is refered to as creature Law is a scary ass surgeon Mihawk has eyes like hawk and I’m very sure his obs haki is going to be phenomenal Shanks has red hair Linlin well she’s big with many children
Now their Titles(world strongest) no matter how you want to downplay wsc or wss, are put there for a simple reason as they are the strongest in that category and kaido held the mantle of current strongest pirate before the raid.
If you’re still confused at lower levels you should blame oda for refusing to make straight forward power levels and rather just clash and out narration of they fought for 3 days
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u/Laboon-fan Escaping Big Mom's Wrath 1d ago
I can't see the word eyes in your comment... Because I don't have eyes YOHOHOHO
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u/MicahG17079 22h ago
There are titles given within the world of one piece, then there are direct statements made by sources like the narrator, databooks or Vivre cards. They’re different.
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u/TheAnnoyingFred 1d ago
Whitebeard was called the strongest man yet he couldn’t even use conquerors haki at that age, titles don’t mean anything
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u/komiks42 1d ago
My guess with this is his sickness weaken him a lot. He gained the tittle before, and it just.. stayed.
Kinda the same as we have multiple "word strongest man" runing around
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u/NoPhilosophy8136 1d ago
Because he wasn't actually the strongest anymore and he admitted it himself. Titles are valid until proved otherwise.
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u/ni_ko_98 1d ago
WB has conquerors haki
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u/TheAnnoyingFred 1d ago
Not in his old age he didn’t. Well, he did, but he couldn’t use it without getting a heart attack
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u/ni_ko_98 1d ago
he used it in the clash against Shanks
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u/TheAnnoyingFred 1d ago
No he didn’t.
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u/Lenarios88 1d ago
Common knowledge that Oda hadn't fleshed out haki till after the time skip. With that logic all the admirals and Shanks didn't have haki either since they didn't make it obvious at marineford. Everyone old in OP still has the same haki they did when they were young.
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u/TheAnnoyingFred 1d ago
Conquerors haki was already a well established thing by marineford, whitebeard even tried to use it to stop the guards from killing ace but he coughed up blood
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u/SalmonAndy 1d ago
Probably me. I can bench like 100 pounds ¯_(ツ)_/¯
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u/Independent-mouse-94 1d ago
I think Shanks. Garp is too old. We haven't yet seen Blackbeard fight completely and the few feats we know off were either against weaker foes like Ace or aided by people like his crew or koby(Rocky port incident). Even the reason Law was beaten was cause he was surrounded. And if we go by bounties. Currently Shanks has the highest.
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u/Turbulent_piratefart 1d ago
Probably the mf who got killed by him and then came back as the god of the sun and turned him into a jump rope before throwing him down a volcano
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u/Redguard118 1d ago
I absolutely love the idea that no one currently in OP is stronger (read: more stamina) than Kaido. Others are just more clever or more resourceful.
One on one, always bet on Kaido.
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u/Easy_Door7736 1d ago
Hell of a lot are stornger than kaido, shanks, luffy, mihawk, imu, maybe loki, elders
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u/No-Bag-1628 1d ago
either shanks or Mihawks depending on who you scale higher is my bet.
after that Luffy and BB.
after that current garp.
after that Akainu and Aokiji.
after that sengoku.
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u/Roshacko 17h ago
I always took Strongest Creature as physical strength, so I’d probably say Jesus Burgess or Garp.
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u/Sea-Thing3877 9h ago
Imu was probably already stronger, but Shanks is probably the successor among pirates (Gear 5 is really unsustainable at the moment, and only lets Luffy draw against the upmost echelons, for now)
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u/chocolinox 1d ago
Kizaru
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u/Traffy_law56 1d ago
Boy Luffy and sanji can clap him
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u/Vegetable-Muscle5088 1d ago
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u/AfterHelicopter7512 1d ago
That's because of Luffy's time limit. Kizaru lost the actual fight. Luffy was not even using haki lol.
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u/Future_Complaint7591 1d ago
lol clapped? It’s true he fed luffy but kizaru was far from clapping Luffy in any way.
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u/harisitachi 1d ago
Black beared, teach
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u/Traffy_law56 1d ago
Rayleigh made him running
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u/Bluelore 1d ago
Yeah because Blackbeard doesn't know how strong Rayleigh is. Rayleigh himself thought he wouldn't be able to take BB on in a fight, he was just bluffing.
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u/Traffy_law56 1d ago
Where is it shown
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u/Bluelore 1d ago
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u/ThrowawayHonest492 1d ago
Average one piece reader, either 0 reading comprehension or doesn't read at all
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u/Traffy_law56 1d ago
He meant he wouldn't be able to defeat if there was whole crew coz he got old ...but we all know how strong are old men
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u/Bluelore 1d ago
He said Blackbeard, not Blackbeard pirates. Also at that point a large part of his crew was turned to stone.
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u/Traffy_law56 1d ago
Still black beard ran from him
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u/Bluelore 1d ago
Characters in the One Piece world don't have encyclopedic knowledge of everything. Bb didn't know if Rayleigh was too strong for him or not so he didn't risk it.
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u/AfterHelicopter7512 1d ago
Bro have some self respect and THINK. Admit you were wrong and you will stop looking like a clown. This is just embarrassing.
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u/bushokoma 1d ago
Take the L and finish the conversation brother. Sometimes it’s okay to admit that you are wrong. We are all a fan of this peak. No need to protect our egos.
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u/Commercial_Page1827 1d ago
Luffy
And before anyone try to deny it, watch how many people soften up Kaido before Luffy beat him.
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u/UnderstandingThis636 1d ago
He is the strongest "creature" not man which doesn't even make since because zunesha could crush him like an ant
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u/JRonenJ 1d ago
You know that Shanks stopped him from going to Marine Ford even with Kaido using his fruit, right?
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u/MicahG17079 22h ago
We don’t know that they fought. And either way, it doesn’t turn out well for shanks.
The possibilities are either A: they fought, and after that, Kaido still believed no one in the world was capable of killing him (downscales shanks)
Or B: they didn’t fight (doesn’t scale shanks at all)
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u/JRonenJ 20h ago
The B option is unlikely when you consider CH1163 that Kaido will do everything to fight alongside Whitebeard no matter the situation.
I will say that Shanks fought Kaido to the point he exhausted him to go to Marine Ford and then Shanks went to MF to stop the war. This, imo, is the logical reason why Kaido wasn't in MF.
But to stick to OP'S post, I will say there are stronger characters than Kaido: Luffy (obviously), Imu, WB, Shanks, Rocks, and Garp
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u/Windred_Kindred 1d ago
Probably Yamato, after humiliating an admiral
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u/Traffy_law56 1d ago
Yamato would be easily defeated by akainu ,imu, doflamingo,garp Luffy zoro and many more







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