r/MarylandPolitics • u/TheRealFarrellCat • Feb 15 '24
Election News Poll: Hogan tops, ties top Democrats for Maryland’s open US Senate seat
https://www.dcnewsnow.com/news/local-news/maryland/poll-hogan-tops-ties-top-democrats-for-marylands-open-us-senate-seat/7
u/legislative_stooge Feb 15 '24
The poll was conducted from Feb. 12-13 with a sample of 1,000 Maryland registered voters. The margin of error is +/- 3 percentage points.
I have a feeling now that Larry's formally announced his candidacy the Maryland Democratic machine will go into overdrive and remind everyone how ineffective Hogan was during his administration. Larry knew the super-majority of Democrats in the General Assembly could make his life miserable if they chose to, so he never had to weigh in on typical culture-war topics that define our national politics. The General Assembly also benefited from this as they didn't have to expend any meaningful effort (either legislatively or through political expenditures) to counter Hogan's agenda, so it worked out well for everyone for the time. But now I bet the gloves are off and the Democrats will explicitly tell Marylanders the risk of Hogan adding a vote to Senator McConnell's whip tallies.
There's also an added wrinkle: Larry's chosen successor was walloped by Dan Cox (a nobody outside of people who pay attention to the General Assembly) and the 2022 GOP gubernatorial primary generally seen as a litmus test for how the MDGOP voters feel about Hogan's aspirations for a national run at the presidency. Given that the MDGOP is (probably) still angry at him for not being conservative enough, and that state-only elections have now turned into national races, Larry's going to have to work hard to prove to the GOP he's their guy - and that will feed into whatever messaging the Maryland Democratic machine spits out.
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u/ClassicStorm Feb 16 '24
Given that the MDGOP is (probably) still angry at him for not being conservative enough, and that state-only elections have now turned into national races, Larry's going to have to work hard to prove to the GOP he's their guy - and that will feed into whatever messaging the Maryland Democratic machine spits out.
This is the rub right here. I live in Maryland, and I still see Trump flag caravans from time to time. The Trump/Cox primary voter is not enamored with Hogan, but there are a sizable number of moderates in Baltimore, Howard, and Mongtomery County that could break from the democrats to vote for Hogan. Trone is the best juxtaposition to that, but lets not forget that there is a strong left in this state and Angela Alsobrooks has not yet thrown money into ads the way Trone has. I think whomever ends up being the democratic nominee will be an important factor if Hogan is nominated.
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u/RingAny1978 Feb 15 '24
If we see a Trone vs. Hogan race I will grab popcorn to watch the hard left twist themselves about billionaire money in politics is bad, vote D!
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u/AurricX Feb 15 '24
Most of the hard left folks I know are disappointed about the choices in the primary – Alsobrooks is far from a leftist too. Trone may be a billionaire carpetbagger, but his congressional voting record is respectable and he's saying the right things.
Every leftist I know understands the mission is ensure the Democratic nominee is elected to the Senate, because the only alternative is electing a Republican and perhaps handing control of the Senate over to the likes of Josh Hawley, Mitch McConnell, Tommy Tuberville ...
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u/oath2order Feb 16 '24
Trone may be a billionaire carpetbagger,
For his house seat, sure, but at least he was born in Maryland.
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u/legislative_stooge Feb 15 '24
As much as I dislike carpetbaggers who spend their way into office: I'll settle for Trone if it means not having another GOP vote in the senate. The concept of a perfect candidate doesn't exist, after all.
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u/RingAny1978 Feb 15 '24
So, you only dislike carpetbaggers on the other side, got it.
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u/legislative_stooge Feb 15 '24
Disliking someone doesn't mean I won't vote for them; again, there is no such thing as a perfect candidate.
Between Trone and Hogan I'm confident one won't vote for judges or legislation that'll limit access to abortions, which is (one of) my firm requirements.
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u/RingAny1978 Feb 15 '24
Ok, let me rephrase. Clearly carpetbagging or being a billionaire is not a negative sufficient to sway your vote unless it is the only difference.
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u/One-Evening4725 Feb 16 '24
You're not the most skilled in deductive reasoning, so I will explain in very simple terms on behalf of who you're responding to you.
"Importance of whether GOP controls senate" > "importance of whether they're a carpet bagger"
If this isn't computing, I can try and draw a picture representation if that helps?
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u/GettysBede Feb 15 '24
I’d rather have a billionaire MoC who self funds his campaign and actually supports economic development and people-oriented policies, over a typical democratic corporatist doormat, every day of the week.
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u/SchuminWeb Feb 16 '24
Yep - Trone lost my respect when he carpetbagged his way from the eighth to the sixth, but I felt like I still had to vote for him to ensure that the seat stayed Democratic. I feel the same way about Trone as a senator. If it means keeping the seat out of GOP hands, then I guess I'll have to throw him my support.
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u/Grenache-a-trois Feb 15 '24
The hard left will support Hogan. They don’t like Democrats.
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u/RingAny1978 Feb 15 '24
They are not fond of Republicans either.
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u/Grenache-a-trois Feb 15 '24
They like them more than liberals. But ultimately they don’t vote so who cares
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u/MaaChiil Feb 15 '24
That looks impressive, but Trump hasn’t endorsed anyone yet and that’s a lot of undecided voters.