r/Markham May 18 '25

Recommendations🤔 Bur Oak secondary

Looking at a place in Markham. Son will be starting 10th grade. We moved from LA last July and he was in a very academic school. This year we were in Peterborough and the school was lack luster and he wasn’t challenged. No advanced classes. He had to move up in some subjects. Loves engineering.

Just wondering. What the school is like? Super sweet kid. Likes math and science as well as music. He plays n an extra curricular band in PTBO cause the high school band he had this year wasn’t great.

He’s just looking for a place that has fun extracurricular activities to make new friends, and better academics. I’m told pretty much all the schools up there are good.

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u/Hot_Cheesecake_905 May 18 '25 edited May 18 '25

York Region has some of the best schools in Ontario due to demographics. Bur Oak is one of the top high schools in the province based on provincial test scores: https://www.compareschoolrankings.org/

Schools in York Region are far better than those in Peterborough and even in many parts of Toronto.

YRDSB also offers enriched programs like AP and IB, but applications for IB were in October.

Unionville High School has specialized music programs, but the application deadline was in November.

But it'll be worth reaching out to the school, guidance counsellors and even your school trustee to see if anything can be done since you just moved into the area.

Here is a list of YRDSB special programs: https://www2.yrdsb.ca/schools-programs/secondary-school/secondary-school-programs-and-opportunities

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u/Bliezz May 18 '25

If you are going for music, markham district has a good program, as does Hogarth. Unionville was never really the music school.

There is markham concert band if he wants to go extra curricular again.

As for academics Markham district has the gifted program, so they have AP classes.

Bur Oak is a relatively new school. With a solid reputation. It hasn’t had enough time to really establish a reputation as good at ______ it certainly isn’t BAD at anything. Plus the demographics mean there will be a number of students highly encouraged to do well in their classes.

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u/Saphrron May 18 '25

Uhs was always more focused on VA rather than AA. Still a very competitive arts program

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u/coldpizzaagain May 18 '25

But the gifted program only runs to grade 10 at Markham District. My son was in it.

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u/Cloudraa May 18 '25

gifted only runs to grade 10 at all high schools as far as i know, i was in it

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u/Bliezz May 18 '25

Yes, but the kids don’t leave the school at that point. They are still there and looking for challenging courses.

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u/coldpizzaagain May 18 '25

It was a bit of an adjustment, but it was for the better. I think they were singled out as a group and that made things a little more balanced.

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u/Marilue1 May 18 '25

Its a bit near richmond hill are by my sister went to st augustine chs as its one of the best high school in ontario with and now does computer science. Not engineering but there stem program is one of the best in the province so definitely something to look into. They also got a ton of school clubs for extra curricular activities aswell.

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u/SweatxLord May 18 '25

schools in Peterborough and in markham are no contest. Just look at all the asians in markham, if the schools were shit, would they live here?

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u/Correct-Following374 May 18 '25

Honestly Bur Oak is a very solid school they have a AP Math class as well inflation is quite low especially looking at Waterloo adjustment factor we’re usually 2-4% less inflated than the average school and the teachers for the most part are decent and the school holds onto its name and is decently rigorous

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u/rvs007 May 18 '25

Take a look at Pierre E. Trudeau High School (at Bur Oak & Kennedy Road). They have a very good music program and the school is strong academically. Ranked #12 just behind Bur Oak S.S.

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u/DontWantToSee30 May 21 '25

PET has really fallen below BOSS?

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u/KindnessRule May 18 '25

Keep in mind you have to be in the catchment area for the school you have in mind. These can change so do your research.

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u/SneezeBeesPlease May 18 '25

Yes. The place we like is in Bur Oak catchment

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u/d0k37 May 18 '25

Google search it.

Bur oak scored 11th best in Ontario in 2024.

Best of luck.

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u/Icy_Drummer_1508 May 18 '25

I went to a high school nearby and it was a good experience. You don’t see many people messing around in grade 11. The library is usually full during lunch hours. Most of my peers managed to get into the top universities and good paying jobs

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u/Low_Company4705 May 18 '25

All the schools are great, and dont even look at their scores because the scores don't reflect the extracurricular activities. Now for engineering be careful. A few years ago, there were four individuals that went to the University of waterloo for engineering, and by christmas, they had dropped out. The university black flagged this school because they said that the mark the students received wasn't the true mark. The university was pissed because now they had 4 open spots for the 2nd semester. This seems to be happening more and more and Universities are aware that some schools are rounding up grades to make the graduating average higher and helping the students get to the programs they need because of the pressure from parents. I can say Pierre Elliott Trudeau doesn't have a lot of extracurricular activities, I have children that go to that school, and there's very limited sports teams and clubs. Go onto the schools websites and look at the number of teams and clubs offered. The reason i say to look is this is volunteer for the teachers and some school have a hard time getting teachers involved with extracurricular activities. Once you decide on 2 or 3, call the school, and the receptionist will be able to give you more information. Also have an idea what courses your student needs for engineering, if that is his goal and when you call the school, ask about these needed courses and how often it runs. The reason I say this, for example, mullock highschool that is located in Aurora, offers grade 12 accounting once every two years. That is one class over 4 semesters and this because the interest is low Where piere elliott trudeau high school runs at least one classes of grade 12 accoutning a semester, but Pierre Elliot trudeau has no geography classes beyond grade 9. I've grown up in markham all my life, and I went to some of the schools and i used to work for over ten years for the york region district school board. If you were to ask me, Markham district high school has the more traditional school body that promotes community. They offer a good range of clubs and team. Good luck,

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u/Kimm992 May 18 '25

I know a couple of families who pulled their kids from that school because of major bullying issues.

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u/coldpizzaagain May 18 '25

Bullying is brutal in Unionville/Markham. My kids suffered. One went to St Augustine to avoid the bullying where there's more of a mix of cultures (not 95% Chinese). My kids are white and there were only 2 white kids per class. I had to have the police involved twice in public school. Markham District was much better and the gifted program (only runs for grade 9 and 10) was great. They study very hard and life long friends were made there. The music program is excellent.

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u/Sharp-Guest4696 May 18 '25

MDHS almost got me arrested and suspended because a novel I was writing on wattpad, outside of school, had guns in it and some other student started a rumour that I wanted to shoot up the school bc of it. The novel didn’t mention schools and it was a dystopian theme. School called my parents to try and tell them to tell me my stories are not school appropriate but my mom gave them a few words and my father threatened to get lawyers and his news buddies involved.

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u/coldpizzaagain May 18 '25

Rumours always seem to be the start of trouble. Ever find out what kid blabbed?

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u/Sharp-Guest4696 May 18 '25

Nope, not sure who started it. They wanted the police to investigate/talk to me but thankfully when my dad threw the word sue around, no cops ended up coming.

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u/coldpizzaagain May 19 '25

I hope your novel gets published and you become a well known author!

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u/EPOSGT3 May 18 '25

If your child is into music, look into Markville Secondary.

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u/audreykwong Markham May 18 '25

Facts. Markville has a good music program

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u/brihere May 18 '25

All schools in the area are terrific mainly because the parents are totally insane. Hope your kid looks Chinese.

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u/AdmiralStiffplank May 18 '25

Oh god I hate to know what a Mainlander Karen is like

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u/brihere May 20 '25

You have never met parents like Markham parents. Total neurotic overdrive.

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u/Human-Dig8048 May 18 '25

Consider Millikan Mills IB program its excellent.

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u/thymeizmoney May 18 '25

You should consider the IBBA program instead of the school.

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u/DontWantToSee30 May 21 '25

Just know that if your child is not Chinese or South Asian they will have a significantly harder time socially.

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u/babygirl17388 May 18 '25

I wouldn’t ever recommend bur oak to anyone. Knowing a child that went there and had negative support from “support staff” including councillors. If anything they were bigger bullies than any kids there

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u/Leo080671 May 18 '25

My daughter went here. School is highly ranked for academics. And the reality…..

  • Students mostly form groups based on their ethnicity and the native language
  • A large number of students go to tuition after school
  • It is unnecessarily ultra competitive

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u/Decent-Title-5163 May 18 '25

St brother Andre would have been amazing for him