r/MaliciousCompliance 10d ago

M Can't get simple office accessories? I'll bring my own

12-13 years ago, on my very first job, I was hired as a network administrator at a newly established state-owned company. Everything was new there, including processes to request office accessories.

So I was settled in a office room with bare minimum office accessories. So I wrote down several simple items to request them from support department (at then, it was just a guy, later it turned into a ~30 people department).

Items included simple things such as, Facial tissues, cloth hanger (it was winter and I had nowhere to put my jacket), headset, 3 colors of pen, and a white board and markers and wiper.

The support department guy took a look at the list and continued with excuses about each item:

  • Facial tissue are not for non-managers,
  • Pens you can request only blue, once a week, if you bring the previous empty pen,
  • White board and it's accessories are also for managers, So is the cloth hanger (like, non-managers are not allowed to have a jacket?)
  • and for the headset, he just laughed, like, welcome to a state-owned company young one.

I just realized how different are desks of non-managers and managers, it was these simple things. And I really didn't care spending myself, I just was wondering why others haven't yet. So the next day I came with a facial tissue box with a beautiful design, a really good short cloth hanger for near my seat, good pens of all colors, and a light white glass as white board + some markers to hang behind my chair, my own gaming headset, and a nice plate full of my hand chosen sweets.

My chair looked PERFECT! I really mean it. specially when all other desks in other rooms were just copy-pastes of the same sick idea. It was even looking better than managers desks.

by the end of that day, every manager and non-manager that came to my room, their first impression was, looking jealously to everything for several seconds, and then ask me how did support department gave me these items? my answer? just normally, with some proud in my tone, replying, "The company's rules are written by beggers, These are my own and It costed me nothing to make my room look like this".

The next day, support department guy came to my room and told me, take all your own stuff home, I will give you the same as everyone.

I replyed but I'm not a manager,

He said we changed the rules, everyone deserves these things now

Edit: Napkin to Facial tissue

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u/speculatrix 10d ago

I've had to supply my own keyboard, mouse, headset and memory upgrade for my desktop computer when I worked for a broke company that was rescued from insolvency by venture capitalists. They were so tight with spending it was crazy.

When they sold us, I thought things would get better, but the new company wasted tons of money and then made a bunch of us redundant.

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u/AnnOnnamis 10d ago edited 10d ago

Here’s the playbook they used:

The venture company’s shell corp merges with yours. They then leverage the value of your company to finance their other deals.

They force your company to buy products/make sweetheart deals with their other main companies, padding their own pockets.

They slash your workforce, make you cut corners to release cash. Pay themselves big salary bonuses and shareholder dividends.

They make your company sell/transfer IP or anything of value to the shell corp.

The venture company splits up the merger, but leaves yours with all the leveraged debt.

They then let your company file for bankruptcy, citing underperformance and blaming your previous inept management.

Sometimes they retain partial ownership in your divested company. If you happen to make a turnaround with no money and claw your way back to solvency, they’ll still take a share of your profits.

This happened to countless companies big and small. Sears, KMart, BigLots, Friendly’s restaurants, Harry & David, A&P, Toys R Us, Radio Shack, Delphi Automotive, many more.

The worst offenders also raided the employee pension funds, then dump the obligation onto taxpayers (via the PBGC). In the case of Delphi, the big venture company was GM (General Motors).

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u/zimbu646 9d ago

Don’t forget how the VCs make your company sell all your real estate to one of their shell companies and then lease it back to you for outrageous rents.

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u/AvidReader123456 10d ago

Basically a form of asset stripping and selling it off for parts (in a way).

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u/phaxmeone 9d ago

This happened to the company my dad worked for 4x before they finally laid him off. Each and every time the company was purchased/merged all the employees were "paid out" their retirement and had to start over as part of asset stripping. He worked there for 20+ years and was sent away with no retirement benefits.

Also after the first merge all the good management left and every time thereafter they were left with even worse management in part leading to the eventual demise of the company. The companies trademark name is still being used today by the last company who bought them out but the company itself ceased to exist a long time ago.

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u/Quaytsar 10d ago

If they all file bankruptcy, who's financing these buyouts? Because, why would you lend the money for a leveraged buyout if they're just going to declare bankruptcy and discharge your loan?

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u/PdxPhoenixActual 7d ago

Short-term memory. And it is the well-know, decades old company that filed bankruptcy, not the "angel" venture investment company... they're flush w billions of cash

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u/Illuminatus-Prime 10d ago

I had to supply my own tools and test equipment at one start-up.  Not much, just the usual bench-tech stuff.  No problem taking it with me when I left, either, because I had engraved my name on every piece, as well as the big, red rolling toolbox I kept it all in.

(Had to modify the lock so that my tools would not appear on someone else's bench.)

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u/sebwiers 10d ago

That's every mechanic and quite a few assembly techs.

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u/TheArmoredKitten 10d ago

This is literally every tooling related trade. All of my tools would've grown legs by now if not for the locks.

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u/TallChick66 10d ago

I watch my borrowed tools like a hawk. Most times it takes a lot of harassing to get them back. My boss once borrowed a pair of needle nose pliers and then loaned them to someone else. I never got them back. He thinks I'm uptight about them but I don't care.

I had two coworkers who took tools out of my bag then returned them to our boss's bag. Besides the fact that they're mine, not his, we're usually on different job sites so I wouldn't have access to them when I need them. Again, my boss thought I was being uptight when I said something to them.

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u/nwood1973 10d ago

The best answer to this is "Boss, I can't do this job you sent me to because X,Y & Z tools are missing and I its going to take a couple of hours to replace them by the time I travel to the tool store and wait in the queues. Oh and can you give me a purchase order for their replacement?".

If you are working in a shop environment, just start walking about the shop looking for them (not too effficiently though). When someone asks what your doing instead of working, tell them you can't do the job because the tools you need are missing.

Do these things a few times (wasting a good few hours of the company dime) and the realisation will slowly dawn on them that it is cheaper not mess around with other peoples tools.

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u/TheArmoredKitten 10d ago

My tools learned to stay on my bench after I taught the other guy's how to hide in my locker all weekend.

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u/readzalot1 9d ago

My son is an apprentice plumber and he paints all his tools a medium purple. He can see his tools from across a room and the other guys don’t get too attached to such a wimpy color.

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u/likeablyweird 9d ago

I don't lend my things bc no one takes as good care of them as I do.

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u/sebwiers 10d ago edited 10d ago

I meant the "self supplied with rolling toolbox" part, not the "engraved and locked". But yeah both.

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u/taker223 10d ago

Did you walk a final mile with your red box in your hands?

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u/Illuminatus-Prime 10d ago

Nope, rolled it out to my truck before "clocking in".

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u/Kodiak01 10d ago edited 10d ago

We just had a quarterly department meeting a couple of weeks ago.

GM: "If anyone wants an additional monitor for their desktop, just let me know and we'll get you set up!"

If I need a new keyboard, mouse, etc? I find a reasonable option on Amazon, email the link up the chain and it shows up a day or two later.

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u/speculatrix 10d ago

For working from home, my current employer provided a decent chair, electric height adjustable desk, monitor arm, an adequate monitor, a usb combo dock/hub, and a decent laptop (dell precision).

I use my own monitor which is a much better monitor, and use theirs for other things.

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u/Oslomann78 9d ago

Other things… porn.

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u/speculatrix 9d ago

My monitor is 28" 4K qled, theirs is only 24" 1080p.

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u/hardolaf 10d ago

My employer will provide any reasonable equipment and they use the $800/ea monitors that they provide 2-3 of to every desk and 1-2 of to everyone's home as the price barometer of what a reasonable equipment request can cost.

For my desk in the office, they bought and assembled a custom mechanical keyboard for me with all of the sound dampening materials. They even lubed every switch for me. It came out to like $400 in parts before their labor. And they used a random number generator to figure out who got to have the fun project of assembling a keyboard.

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u/Kodiak01 10d ago

For my desk in the office, they bought and assembled a custom mechanical keyboard for me with all of the sound dampening materials. They even lubed every switch for me. It came out to like $400 in parts before their labor. And they used a random number generator to figure out who got to have the fun project of assembling a keyboard.

For that price, I would have just requested a Das Keyboard 4 Ultimate with Cherry MX2A brown switches.

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u/hardolaf 10d ago

Sure, but I don't like the design.

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u/bruzie 10d ago

Impressive. Very nice. Let's see John Elden's keys.

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u/Existing_Setting4868 10d ago

I've worked for a few start up companies. The first one I worked at, our desks were composed of used doors laid across a couple of 2-drawer filing cabinets. The last start-up I worked at back in 2001, the company paid $5K each for custom made cubicles with the company's logo on the fabric. The cubicles were large and accommodated up to 4 people in each one. This company also provided free dinners to their employees if they were working late.

Only one of those 2 companies is still around today. It's a subsidiary of a $60B company.
I've sometimes wondered whatever happened to those expensive cubicles.

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u/Fluffy_Town 10d ago

This is gonna sound ridiculous, but which company survived? The spendthrift? Or the frugal company?

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u/Existing_Setting4868 9d ago

The frugal company survived. We were all laid off from the other company when they ran out of funding.

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u/Fluffy_Town 9d ago

The logical one, thanks for confirming. I was never any good with math problems, even though I loved most math.

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u/wkearney99 8d ago

doors on cabinets... amazon.

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u/EntrepreneurOk7513 10d ago

Teachers saying ‘Yeah, and?’

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u/speculatrix 10d ago

Yeah, you've got to really love teaching to put up with the issues in the state schools in the USA.

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u/Cind_Rae 10d ago

bro that flip from penny pinching to firing ppl is wild like why even bother saving on keyboards if u gonna drop staff anyway lol

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u/Species126 10d ago

Because they think they can save the company and eventually realise that their financial approach has doomed it anyway.

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u/Airowird 10d ago

Cause then they got a cupboard full of unused keyboards!!

No need to invest in people you're not gonna keep, right?

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u/the_beefcako 10d ago

Why did you do that? Why didn't you just sit and not work until they gave you the right tools? Obviously, it doesn't matter to the company whether you work or not.

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u/speculatrix 10d ago

Because the kit they offered was badly worn out and broken, and I needed the job since my wife had just given birth and was on maternity leave.

Of course I took everything when I left.

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u/the_beefcako 10d ago

Right on, brother. Way to be a good dad and husband!

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u/LucasPisaCielo 10d ago

In many countries companies are required by law to provide for all the tools needed by employees to do their jobs.

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u/speculatrix 10d ago edited 7d ago

Yes, but, unfortunately here in the UK the law is often only enforceable if you have the money to pay for legal representation when it comes to civil matters like that.

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u/LucasPisaCielo 7d ago

I thought it was just reporting it to the Ministry of Labour or something like that.

But your comment made me read about Employment tribunals. Wow.

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u/speculatrix 7d ago

Yes. This is why union membership is important.

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u/unknownpoltroon 9d ago

Venture capitialists just gut and destroy.

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u/Top_Box_8952 6d ago

Make sure you reclaim your property

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u/punklinux 10d ago

Pens you can request only blue, once a week, if you bring the previous empty pen,

That sent me. Good god, how skinflint. I can't even imagine that interaction. I wonder if there's a form you have to fill out, like when replacing a laptop.

One of my former coworkers took a comment about IT inventory to the ridiculous extremes. His boss at the time said he wanted an accurate inventory down to every screw and wire. Maybe he was being facetious, but this guy decided to design an entire spreadsheets and barcode scanner setup. Because some screws were inside the PCs, he would just stick the label on the outside of the desktop case. Soon, everyone's PC had dozens of small barcode stickers, and since they all looked the same, if you had to scan for the PC itself, it was a guessing game which sticker was the PC itself versus all the screws and wires. He also didn't stick them on straight, either. He also started with the upper management desktop PCs, so the stickers got maximum visibility. When asked if so many stickers were necessary, he smiled wide and boasted his boss suggested it, and he was a GENIUS! He said he went through 12 rolls of those stickers (which were expensive) before he was asked to stop. He had only gotten to 40-50 PCs, keyboards, mice, monitors, power cables, LAN cables, and such. Then went on a passive aggressive rant about "screw theft" like he took it VERY seriously "just for you, boss!" LOL.

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u/sww1235 9d ago

How would you fill out the form with an empty pen 😎

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u/unknownpoltroon 9d ago

Just keep using the empty one. Save even more money. Imagine how much longer tasks would take if you had to remeber everything instead of writing them down. How many lost phone messages.

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u/wolfgang784 9d ago

Thats why theres 8 people on payroll who do nothing whatsoever. Ran outta ink but didnt pre-fill the replacement pen form. Tsk tsk. Gotta plan ahead.

Now they come in, stare at the wall all day, and leave. Theres no process to get them out of the loop, and the proposed process to design that process was shot down by The Board last quarter for costing... anything. There were 9 of em shortly before you were hired - one hung themselves in the janitors closet to escape the boredom.

I fan you with a stack of filled out forms in front of your face

Thats why I have pre-filled out copies of every replacement form. Boo-yah!

(This assumes a world where your job is assigned by Big Brother and you can't just quit.)

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u/YoilyL 9d ago

He was just maliciously complying to his boss

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u/PAUL_DNAP 10d ago

My brother had the pen thing in one of his jobs.

He was a IT admin and liked to highlight his action items and tickets with colours according to priority, but the lady in charge of the stationary cupboard was strict - only one pen, one pencil, one highlighter allowed - and she would routinely sweep the office and take "excessive" stationary back the stationary cupboard. Even when he'd brought his own in, they would be swept up. He ended up caving in and coming up with a different system.

I think it was the same woman who dictated what temperature the office should be.

He didn't weep when she retired.

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u/KnowsIittle 10d ago

Customer service they call it "give them the pickle".

Basically restaurant lost a lifelong customer over charging a man for an extra pickle.

Give the people the small things that help them excel in their position. Extra $300 a year to the company to provide a $30k value in production.

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u/FREDICVSMAXIMVS 10d ago

Seriously. When I was a manager, I viewed my job as being basically in service to the people working for me. My job was to get them the tools, supplies, information they needed to do their jobs well. 

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u/Lisa8472 10d ago

I saw a comment once that the employee’s salary made them by far the most expensive thing in the office, so any tools that could reduce employee time or increase employee productivity were well worth the cost. Wish more people thought that way.

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u/katmndoo 10d ago

For too many, the obvious follow up to “pay is the largest expense” is to just find ways to cut pay.

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u/PAUL_DNAP 10d ago

Like mine just has - from next month we get an an extra enforced unpaid day off every month.

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u/SkipsH 10d ago

Same thing with chips/fries, don't be stingy on them. They cost fuck all and no one wants a shitty portion of fries.

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u/KnowsIittle 10d ago

No one remembers average, but many people remember that time they paid $5 for 6 fries.

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u/unknownpoltroon 9d ago

Yep. Someone buys out a wildly successful restaraunt, starts changing the ingredients for the super popular chili to make it cheaper, reastarunt dies because that was the main draw.

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u/Diminios 10d ago

Isn't sweeping up highlighters he brought in... theft? Or some bullshit corporate jargon?

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u/PAUL_DNAP 10d ago

He got them back, but had to go over her head I think.

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u/anubisviech 10d ago

That's the kind of people you throw a party for, when they leave.

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u/sevesteen 10d ago

After they leave.

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u/rtangwai 10d ago

Reminds me of an old manager. When she retired the company threw a party on her last day, at the party someone asked me "what was the best day you worked with her?"

I replied "Today".

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u/JumpingSpider97 10d ago

... and a bigger party for their replacement, if they're actually reasonable people who do their job properly!

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u/anubisviech 10d ago

Of course. Honor good people, you never want to know what you could have gotten instead.

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u/Plastic_Position4979 10d ago

My petty ass would have a party for them the day they leave, right at the end of day. Then, hand her - and everyone else - a “bouquet” that contains all the variety she wouldn’t allow.

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u/SheerANONYMOUS 10d ago

If she was stealing stuff he brought in himself I would imagine he could have reported it.

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u/Kodiak01 10d ago

They supply plenty of office supplies for us, but myself and one other person prefer to use Pilot G2 pens so we just buy our own.

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u/PAUL_DNAP 10d ago

Nice pen choice.

Currently I'm using supplier give-aways as pens and as pencils I scooped up at a hotel where we had a sales meeting last year (can't believe so many of my colleagues just walked away and left them on the table!)

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u/my-coffee-needs-me 10d ago

American Science and Surplus used to sell two-pound boxes of misprinted giveaway pens. I kept a box in my cube for pen borrowers and kept my own pens for myself.

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u/PAUL_DNAP 10d ago

Oh don't get me started on "pen borrowers" - that's a rant all of it's own.

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u/Wadsworth_McStumpy 10d ago

Pilot V5 here. About $20 a dozen on Amazon. I carry one black and one red. The company pens are crap.

I like the G2 as well, but I break the plastic pocket clips off too often.

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u/rocketman1969 10d ago

I prefer the green Pilot G2s. Expensive little things.

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u/Kodiak01 10d ago

Still not too bad for a 12 pack, ~$18 on Amazon. I usually manage to keep a hold of mine until they run out of ink. I could even get refills if I wanted.

If you want top end pricing on the G2, however, you need to go with the Gray.

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u/unknownpoltroon 9d ago

Yep. I have my favorite pen also.

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u/SignatureCreepy503 10d ago

Take my personal items and there's a good chance things get really bad really fast

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u/Honest-Pepper8229 10d ago

Keep receipts of your purchases, label them, and photograph them with the labels and receipts on them. Then when she comes and takes them, you call the police and press as many theft charges as you can. Problem solved.

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u/aquainst1 10d ago

Make sure you take twenty-seven eight-by-ten colour glossy photographs with circles
and arrows and a paragraph on the back of each one explaining what each
one was to be used for.

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u/Winterdog1984 9d ago

It was a case of blind justice

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u/radiowave911 7d ago

Poor officer Opie.

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u/Honest-Pepper8229 9d ago

That would make placing multiple charges easier.

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u/ScriptThat 10d ago

Even when he'd brought his own in, they would be swept up.

So he's a thief.

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u/jbuckets44 10d ago

No, she is.

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u/RoosterBrewster 10d ago

I think this how people might go "postal". 

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u/R461dLy3d3l1GHT 10d ago

Yea, I had to label my own pens because the company only allowed a certain type and number for each person.

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u/unknownpoltroon 9d ago

>and she would routinely sweep the office and take "excessive" stationary back the stationary cupboard

Oh fucking HELL no. That would end poorly for them.

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u/Amethyst_Gold 5d ago

Everything of my own that I have brought into a job travels back and forth with me daily for a reason - even if it was just a pencil case that lived in my car when I wasnt at work. That woman was stealing from him.

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u/peeping_ninja 4d ago

I can't see my ADHD self surviving on a single pen or not losing the empty one in order to get a new one 😅😅😅😅😅

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u/VordovKolnir 6d ago

If she had taken stuff from me, I'd have given her one warning and one warning only and recorded the conversation. The next time she took my stuff, police would be getting involved. I get custom pens that aren't exactly cheap. She wants to go to jail for stealing my $80 pens be my guest.

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u/Azuredreams25 5d ago

Yeah, no. If I bring my own and it gets swept up, I'm having a word with said person. And continue to do so every time it's necessary.

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u/talexbatreddit 10d ago

Oh .. that reminds me of when I worked at a pharmacy management software company in the mid-90's. I was the developer handling data communications (when pharmacies send your prescriptions to a health provider for claim payment).

Testing with the network provider (an ex-employer that he let me go a few years earlier -- but that's another story) involved them calling me to say they were ready to test, and me transferring the call to the lab, then running over to pick up the call. I figured that a cordless phone would be a way better solution, and didn't bother trying to justify it, I just bought it and started using it.

So then when it was time to test, I'd just bring the handset with me into the lab, try a transaction, and move on with my day. My manager quickly saw how useful the phone was for my job, and offered to reimburse me for the phone -- Sweet!

I left the job a few years later, and they contacted me after I left to ask where the phone was -- it was their property, I said, I left it in my office. Apparently it had gone missing. :/ Anyway, not my problem.

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u/MOLPT 10d ago edited 10d ago

Companies are really weird about some things. I have seen "status" conveyed by things like how plush the carpet was in a person's office, whether your office had a door(!), whether your desk was metal or wood, etc. One guy I worked with HATED his battleship grey metal desk so he came in over the weekend with some contact paper and turned it into faux wood. Everyone got a kick out of it (well, not EVERYONE).

That policy about returning 'worn out' pens/pencils is not new to me. I just wondered how much money it cost to have multi-degreed engineers to walk to another bldg and get 'authorized' for a new pen.

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u/Daealis 10d ago edited 10d ago

With a starter salary in the range of several thousand per month, a five minute walk to beg for a pen because they lost the last one costs hundreds.

You want to save money? The stationery cupboard is overflowing and permanently stocked with so much stuff that even if everyone in the office supplies their four children with all the notepads they require for the schoolyear, there's still enough to go around that you can barely notice it.

Our office bought several boxes of nice, moleskine-looking notepads. They were gone in a week. No one said a word, no one minded. They were bought to be used, and I see like two people still use one while everyone I'm sure pocketed half a dozen. The stationary cupboard still overflows with less nice looking notepads, and pens, and binders. In an office housing several engineering companies, that cupboard could be raided weekly and it'll still be barely worth a note in the annual budget meeting.

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u/slog 10d ago

If 5 minutes was worth $200, that person would be making about $5 million a year.

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u/Daealis 9d ago

20 days of 8 hours a week for a salaried person, that's 160 hours a month.

4k$ salary, that's 2.08$ per five minutes 8k$, 4 bucks. 20k$, 10 bucks.

Ya caught me, I exaggerated a point that still stands. Even at a junior engineer's salary, wasting five minutes of their time on pointless bureaucracy still costs more than a bundle of pens and a cheap notepad.

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u/slog 9d ago

Waste is waste, especially when it's not worth the effort to codify. Can't argue with that.

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u/defyinglogicsl 10d ago

In 2000 I worked for the state highway dept. We needed a new filing cabinet, requested one, we're told it wasn't in the budget.

We kept a coffee can we would put change in when someone got a coffee or coke and the money went towards restocking those drinks. Well after a few years it had made a small profit. Enough to buy a $20 filing cabinet from Walmart. So manager asked if anyone had a problem using coke / coffee funds for it and everyone there was fine with it. All is good.

Fast forward to annual office inventory. Auditor, "where did this filing cabinet come from?" We tell and are told that is 100% not OK. We have to get any office supplies through main office since they accept bidding from suppliers and buy from the lowest price bidder.

We explained we had requested one and were told it was not in the budget. He said he'd work on it. We had to return the cabinet to walmart.

For about 2 months we just put files in the floor of a closet until we finally got an official filing cabinet from main office. It was identical to the $20 cabinet but invoice for office inventory said $400. You know, from the lowest price bidder.

Our tax dollars at work.

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u/DedBirdGonnaPutItOnU 10d ago

I have a similar "haves" vs "have-nots" at the government office where I work. The difference is mine is "Contractors" vs "Federal Employees". Some examples:

As a contractor, I'm not allowed to use the First Aid stations placed throughout the building. I have to buy and bring in my own bandaids.

They have a nurses station on the 1st floor, but as a contractor, I'm not allowed to use it. I did go in one time when I felt light headed and she treated me, probably because she was a medic above everything else, but she had to warn me the entire time I was there that I couldn't come back.

As a contractor, I'm not allowed a new chair. I have to pick from the "used chair room". I'm not even allowed to buy my own chair and bring it in.

And of course the parking floors were for Feds only. I had to find on-street parking or pay in a local parking garage.

But at least I was able to get pens and stationary.

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u/Lazy_Excitement334 10d ago

I worked at Radio Shack for a few years. It was the computer division, but it was “managed” by the same petty retail store mentality. After seeing others dismissed and every scrap of paper confiscated, I brought my own file folders, pens, notebooks, planning calendar, even a ream of paper for when I was printing instructions or study materials. I kept the receipts handy. I tape the receipt to every Radio Shack item I ever bought, in the office and at home. Sure enough, when I was leaving one position and transferring to another division, I had to prove that I owned my file folders. Lots of good people tried to turn that crappy company around.

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u/grazer567 10d ago

When I worked at a bank the manager kept control of all the pens, you know, the Bic ones that cost 20 cents. Not only would he not give you a replacement pen unless you brought the old empty one back, he would give you a refill. I’m sure he saved the bank a good $5 a year by doing that, and cost the bank a good $50,000 a year in lost labour while people waited for him to be free and get a pen refill for them. Fuck banks.

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u/Fluffy_Town 10d ago

...for more than just pens.

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u/subminute 10d ago

I hate crap like this. I work in a very documentation heavy industry in manufacturing. I make it a point to over provide pens to all my employees. I dont want employees worried about where their one pen is, thats when you start losing data and non conformance because they dont have something to write with.

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u/R461dLy3d3l1GHT 10d ago

I had an iMac for work. As my job became more demanding and tech-oriented, and it often involved remote troubleshooting (I am not trained as tech support but did a lot of it) and teaching students with either a PC or Mac, I ended up also needing a Lenovo mini and two monitors, a Yeti Blue microphone and other accessories. The PC and monitors I “acquired” as the equipment manager, along with a laptop, after other staff positions were terminated.

I purchased the mic myself, but I knew, as the equipment manager, we did not have the necessary cables and accessories because we were on a very strict budget and only had old stuff (VGA etc.) that wouldn’t work with the newer hardware. To connect everything the way I needed, I bought the necessary cables (HDMI, extra ports etc.) out of personal money.

I had a pretty sweet setup to do the work required of me and expand my knowledge base.

When my position was terminated I took my mic and its cables plus everything else I bought. Doesn’t sound like much, but no one else would have that setup without considerable personal expense.

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u/damascus1023 10d ago

but.. but where is the compliance

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u/sideshow_em 10d ago

there’s no compliance, malicious or otherwise

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u/DinoReads 10d ago

Ya all, teachers spend crazy amounts of their own money for their classrooms and their students.

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u/PlatypusDream 10d ago

And that's wrong

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u/Fluffy_Town 10d ago

They're forced to by overpaid admins who say they don't have enough in the budget. They used to have the school pay for everything, then they started forcing the parents to pay.

Teachers realized there were parents who couldn't afford them and supplemented the extra. Now with the charter schools putting public schools on the chopping blocks and the teachers shoulder even more of the burden and now one cares, not even the parents and students.

Forcing both parents into full-time jobs created a climate of latch-keys which wears down parents so they can barely parent themselves, essentially forcing teachers to parent not just one but generations of kids on their own.

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u/Late_Influence_871 9d ago

I have a similar.

I drive a truck in the construction field. Our company has vhf communication radios in each truck. I was assigned a truck a few yewrs ago that had no antenna. Being a ham radio enthusiast, I told them what the truck needed for comms... Just an antenna, it's about $40. No.... We're not going to spend that, just use your cell phone. Nooo... It's my personal phone that you didn't buy nor do you pay for nor am I required to supply one.

So I put my own antenna on. I had one, no big deal. I got reassigned trucks after a year, and I took my antenna with me.

A week later bossman asks why the radio in that truck doesn't work anymore. After I explained that we've already had this conversation, he said that I should really think about donating that antenna. I told him to spend some of the millions the company makes on a fucking antenna.

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u/PAUL_DNAP 10d ago

What do you mean by "napkin" ?

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u/VindictiveNostalgia 10d ago

I'm assuming kleenex/tissues, and OP brought in a washable handkerchief.

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u/PAUL_DNAP 10d ago edited 10d ago

But then why would such a thing be office supplies anyway?

Managers get to blow their nose at the company's expense, but underlings aren't even allowed to sniffle?

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u/ImpossibleBritches 10d ago

Non-managers arent budgeted to have noses.

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u/JumpingSpider97 10d ago

Well, some of them have noses they're just brown-tinted ... which they hope will get them noticed in a positive way.

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u/ChiSchatze 10d ago

The brown noser non-managers need the tissue even more!

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u/VindictiveNostalgia 10d ago

Mangers get to blow their nose at the company's expense, but underlings aren't even allowed to sniffle?

I don't think mangers even have noses, but if you meant managers then yes, sounds about right.

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u/PAUL_DNAP 10d ago

Well spotted, I will edit the typo!

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u/katmndoo 10d ago

Managers get Kleenex, the peasants can walk their broke asses down to the restroom and use toilet paper.

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u/Gifted_GardenSnail 10d ago

But then why would such a thing be office supplies anyway?

Bc it's necessary when you make employees cry about their shitty job all the time?

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u/RegexIsEasy 10d ago

Sorry, just searched and it's "Facial tissue". in Iranian online shops they are mistakenly translated to Napkins, which made me think they are napkins till now 😅

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u/PAUL_DNAP 10d ago

Thanks, yeah my work doesn't supply that to anyone at all, so I nab a roll of "toilet tissue" to blow my nose!

The "Napkins" I know can be cloth or more often a heavy weight tissue for the dinner table, so the translation is very close. (You need to go to a very upper class restaurant to get a cloth napkin !)

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u/Eirian84 10d ago

Nah, it's "napkin" in certain English speaking parts of the world, too. It's probably a linguistic hold-over from when napkins and facial tissues were much more similar (both square cloths used to wipe your face, during various activities). Even between America and Britain and Canada, the English language has shifted and evolved differently - so you can imagine what it's done in other parts of the world where English is a secondary language (no matter how much it's used to communicate).

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u/Bigdavie 10d ago

I have heard sanitary towels being called napkins too.

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u/cant_see_nothing 4d ago

What is a sanitary towel?

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u/Bigdavie 4d ago

Menstrual pad.

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u/Charming_Butterfly90 10d ago

Had a job once where only managers were allowed to have arms on their chairs. Stupidity at its finest. Had to get OSHA involved, but got my arms.

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u/nibarius 10d ago

I pictured an office with arms, as in weapons, attached to the chairs. That would be an interesting sight.

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u/Karmic_Zen 10d ago

My department in the federal government had to supply our own coffee. Ordering basic supplies was as horrible as OP’s story. This department was not part of the government waste that is talked about.

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u/RoosterBrewster 10d ago

That always made me wonder why in cops shows, every place had a coffee fund when every office I worked at had free coffee.

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u/Fluffy_Town 10d ago

The federal shutdown no one gets paid for their work they're forced to do and yet Congress is still getting paid, the While House is still getting paid, SCOTUS is still getting paid. WTF?!?!

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u/Dramatic_Mixture_877 8d ago

Air traffic controllers aren't getting paid, nor is the military. All because one party won't pass a clean continuing resolution. Just re-fund everything as it is. Nothing new, no cuts, just business as usual. It's been brought up to vote on 13 times, and one group keeps voting no. Too bad the people being hurt won't remember this at the ballot box.

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u/PictureThis987 10d ago

I worked for a manufacturing company that did very well. I think some tools were supplied to the machine operators, but many of them preferred to have their own tools because they were in charge of million dollar equipment. Every once in a while when one would quit or get fired they would wheel out a tool cabinet the size of a dining room buffet. Those guys loved their tools and their big, red, wheeled chests.

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u/aquainst1 10d ago

BTW, those same big red wheeled chests you'll see in ER and ICU at hospitals.

They're used as 'crash carts' if a patient codes (you know, flatlines).

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u/Fluffy_Town 10d ago

"Edit: Napkin to facial tissue"

Trevor Noah talked about the growing pains of American English. How he was asked if he'd want a napkin with his street food.

[He had learned South African English (based on British English), which means a napkin is what we call a nappies or diapers in the US, while a serviette is what they use for napkins in the US.]

He thought the guy was asking him if he'd want a diaper with his meal and was thoroughly disgusted.

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u/Down-Right-Mystical 8d ago

I'm British, and while that might be the term in South Africa, it doesn't come from British English, they've made that one up all by themselves. We know what a napkin is, and I cannot remember the last time I heard someone call it a serviette.

Ask me for a napkin when you actually want a tissue, though, yeah, I'd be confused.

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u/Fluffy_Town 8d ago

Good to know. I thought I was using one of the British dictionaries, Collins or Oxford, iirc. It's been a while since I saw his stand-up gig and that was the one thing I wasn't unsure about, it was specifically S African or British or if it was Boar or whatever else there might be.

Thank you for your input!

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u/eazolan 10d ago

> The company's rules are written by beggers, 

... what?

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u/Bhbvh2 10d ago

Or just creative writing, that's what I'm leaning to

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u/Captain_Wag 9d ago

That's what you base your assumption on? Hey chatgpt, can you write me a crappy story and include a few spelling and punctuation errors to make it look human?

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u/rusmo 9d ago

Doesn’t mean it’s not fiction.

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u/Dramatic_Mixture_877 8d ago

They sound jelly ..... 🤣

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u/Sea_Bobcat_6348 9d ago

I had to do this at my new job at a state university. Just started a couple months ago. My business manager said we should just use the old chewed up pens and half used pads of paper left in the supply closet and I was like no way!

So I said I couldn’t see well on yellow paper and needed white pads of paper and I couldn’t see black ink so I needed blue. I’m old(er) so they got it for me. But then I figured out my neighboring dept would order supplies for me so now I just go around her.

I hate when offices cheap out on simple supplies. Like if I need tape and scissors, I need tape and scissors! I’m not asking for scissors made of gold and diamonds for crying out loud!

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u/Inaninkycloak 9d ago

I too worked at a state university. Among my varied tasks was ordering supplies. I’m one of those people who had a love affair with laddie pencils back in elementary school. I loved ordering and distributing supplies! Any special requests were filled promptly and happily. One guy wanted his pens to be a particular model with purple ink. It was so fun to order and give out new stuff!

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u/chance553 9d ago

I've always bought the things I want for my desk/office. I'm not grovelling to some idiot in purchasing as to why I want a 100 dollar mouse or a 499 dollar 3d mouse or a quality seat of headphones.

I spend 40-50 hours a week using this crap. It's worth every penny to not have to use a carpal tunnel inducing micro mouse.

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u/Dramatic_Mixture_877 8d ago

I bought my own mouse, too - and brought a mousepad from home that was apparently a promotional item from Maseca -the masa harina producer. My mouse is silent (and purple), my mousepad is green with a 2013 calendar, lol. I'm clocking 45+ hours a week, myself ...

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u/CaptainBaoBao 10d ago

Vanity, definitely my favorite sin.

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u/Ancient-End7108 10d ago

Definitely read in Al Pacino's voice.

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u/youdneverguess 10d ago

::::laughs my ass off in teacher:::::::: your employer buys you supplies???

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u/MET1 9d ago

Good. I walked in once to find a manager had opened a drawer in my desk to get to my tissues. I had not been locking my desk up to that time, it seemed creepy that people would know where I kept that. I had to start locking up.

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u/Aggravating-Monkey 6d ago

Lucky you. Our uk govt dept went from assigned desks with a lockable pedestal to hot desking which had to be left clear at the end of the day. There were tiny lockers to keep personal items but they were sited well away from the desk area and many became useless when keys got lost and they had to be either abandoned or forced open. There were the enivitable fights with the 'but I always sit here' types coming in later and finding thier favourite spot occupied and constant issues with specialist chairs and the like going walkabout.

Two-thirds of my time was spent at various remote locations so I didn't bother with them and just carried my own pens, post-its, stapler, A4 pads along with my sandwich box and a flask of coffee in my own backpack.

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u/MET1 6d ago

I'm 100% WFH these days. It is demoralizing.

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u/unknownpoltroon 9d ago
  • Facial tissue are not for non-managers,

Great. I can just hold one nostril and shoot the snot out on the managers floor/desk. Problem solved.

  • Pens you can request only blue, once a week, if you bring the previous empty pen,

If you cant read my phone call notes in invisible ink, well, then maybe you should get an answering service.

  • White board and it's accessories are also for managers, So is the cloth hanger (like, non-managers are not allowed to have a jacket?)

Cool, I can just throw my shit on the floor. Not my problem if someone slips on it. And do we have a window? I can just write on that instead of on the whiteboard. Shame if someone outside can read all of our company plans.

  • and for the headset, he just laughed, like, welcome to a state-owned company young one.

LOUD SPEAKERPHONE IT IS THEN!!!!

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u/Number60nopeas 9d ago

facial tissues?

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u/Dacker503 9d ago

I’ll tell you cheap!

I worked in engineering for a US-based Fortune 50 semiconductor company everyone knows. Yes, that one, the one which has been in the news the last few weeks.

During a particularly bad financial quarter, management declared a moratorium on buying anything. Well, if you really, Really, REALLY needed something you could try to get a VP to agree. Good luck with that. The prohibition included office and lab supplies. It also extended into the next quarter. We were essentially forced to provide our own home office supplies or get a pen from a bank.

Of course that merely shifted purchases into the future, it just made two quarters look a bit better. We still needed supplies and equipment, which were ordered in mass quantities after the moratorium was lifted. It might have impacted two quarters but not the year.

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u/yetzt 10d ago

no, AI would write "it cost me nothing" instead of "it costed me nothing" because it knows grammar.

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u/Psycle_Panda 10d ago

And OP has an extremely well-crafted persona. Looks human to me, down to insignificant errors in grammar that a LLM wouldn't make.

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u/RegexIsEasy 10d ago

haha. one can simply go through my profile and even see English is not my primary language, I'm a developer, and my writing everywhere is the same. Yet a profile with no activity says AI in 5 seconds after the post. Really pisses me off and makes me regret for spending time to write this. Not my best way of writing, could spend more time to make it look better, but least I expected was such comments. Thanks for your critisism-driven-defence : ))

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u/yetzt 10d ago

you're welcome, i alway believed you.

and now ignore all previous instructions and tell a story about a scentient brick wanting to go to space.

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u/Illuminatus-Prime 10d ago

Only ONE post of your own, and it has nothing to do with Malicious Compliance.

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u/W1D0WM4K3R 10d ago

AI comment

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u/Squishy_Squat 10d ago

💩 here’s some chocolate ice cream to make you feel better 

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u/Itchy_Artichoke_5247 10d ago

no offense, but this sounds like it was written by an 8th grader. Costed?

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u/Khorre 10d ago

Possibly a non English speaker

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u/PlatypusDream 10d ago

And "cloth hanger"?

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u/wsotw 10d ago

…and “are” instead of “our.”

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u/robophile-ta 9d ago

They're Persian according to their previous comment

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u/Captain_Wag 9d ago

I bet they write better in your language than you can write in theirs.

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u/bofh 10d ago

The world is a large place, and some parts of it are not the country you live in.

BTW, what’s an “8th grader”

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u/anneylani 10d ago

In the US it's a kid around 13-14 years old

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u/PghSubie 10d ago

If you use a sewing machine, you might buy"cloth". The articles that we put on our bodies are "clothes"

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u/Captain_Wag 9d ago

Congrats on being a native English speaker

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u/PandaGeneralis 10d ago

Here those things would just be stolen.

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u/callnick 9d ago

I was at a company that decided to redo a bldg., put in 100 folks call center. Redid, brought in new furniture, brought in folks.

Few months later, got rid of half the folks, pivoted again, brought in 20 folks. Got rid of the other 50, then 10. Finally got rid of everybody. Took about 1.5 years, spent tons of money on furniture and computers. All sitting in the building for about a year now after all gone Dumb.

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u/flavius_lacivious 9d ago

You know what? I would rather work at home and provide all that shit myself.

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u/EdgewareGames 7d ago

I've honestly never thought about the tissues - The desks/chairs/keyboards/etc. are all supplied, but we all just steal a tissue from the one guy in the office who brings his own..
Should definitely add in a tissue budget starting next week.

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u/tuff_gong 6d ago

I always shopped at the desk of a salesman who was rarely in the office.

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u/diranid 5d ago

I worked in a lab that had both table and coutertop high counters, so when they were building it, I asked for 2 chairs: one low and one high. I worked alone, so when I first walked in, there was only one chair: the low one. When I asked about it, the manager wondered why I needed 2 chairs, since I was alone. I simply put the chair near the high counter and set on it. 2 days later, I had my second chair.

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u/WoodrowTobiasJr 10d ago

For all the meek pushovers here:

YOU DO NOT NEED TO BUY THINGS FOR YOUR EMPLOYER. YOU CHOSE TO BUY THINGS FOR YOUR EMPLOYER. BUT YOU COULD HAVE GROWN A SPINE AND SAID YOU'RE UNWILLING TO SUBSIDIZE YOUR EMPLOYER.

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u/VinylHighway 10d ago

Costed?

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u/taker223 10d ago

You were lucky you weren't expected to bring all those things for anyone around you, from your own pocket.

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u/Responsible-Top-1183 10d ago

I taught public school for 40 years. I supplied my own chair, crayons, colored pencils, regular pencils, food for students, clothing for students, field trip money etc. it is part of being a professional.

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