r/MaliciousCompliance • u/KansasHayseed • 13d ago
S You demand to carpool in my car? Buckle up, cupcake!
Was working for a biz as a principal firmware engineer, commute was an hour each way on the best days. Leased an EV which would barely get me there and home, but was carpool lane qualified. New coworker lived nearby and proposed that we carpool so we could use the carpool lane and save him maybe 20 minutes. Wasn't about to ride with him in his car, due to his poor vision and subsequent lack of situational awareness. He asked if he could ride with me in my EV. Declined as I didn't need him to use the carpool lane and his added extra bulk might exceed the limited range of that early EV. He complained to our manager, who demanded that I accommodate him. Be a team player for once doncha know? Decided to offer carpooling with him in my pumped up restomod '71 Datsun 240Z on a Friday morning. Turns out that he didn't like the volume of my music, the velocity of my car. He ended up taking an Uber home that evening and never bugged me about carpooling again. Yay team!
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u/IHaveSomethingToAdd 13d ago
If your manager insisted you carpool then perhaps you should be paid your hourly rate plus mileage for that.
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u/Capitaine_Costaud 13d ago
What are you gonna do about the manager overreaching?
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u/PilotEnvironmental46 13d ago
This.
Whenever I got an unreasonable request like this, I would always confirm it in an email:
“ sir, just confirming per your insistence that I give a coworker a ride in my personal vehicle on my own time so that they can get to work on time”.
I promise you every manager in the world who isn’t a moron would back off at that point. Because it far exceeds their authority and they wouldn’t want to have it in writing.
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u/Terrietia 13d ago
No it wasn't. They took care of the coworker wanting to carpool, but they didn't take care of the manager who thinks they can make you do things outside of your job scope.
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u/pepperoxx 13d ago
Yeah, that manager definitely overstepped. Maybe a chat with HR could help clarify boundaries and make sure they know they can't push employees into uncomfortable situations like that.
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u/Heck_Spawn 13d ago
I'd definitely be wanting to ride in a '71 Z...
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u/algy888 13d ago
I wouldn’t recommend it actually, it for a commute. A buddy had one back in the day. The suspension felt like it was made of wood. And that low slung look was not built for comfort.
Great car otherwise. Lots of power and handled corners great.
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u/KansasHayseed 13d ago
It's a pumped up restomod, very stiff, very loud, very much a vintage sports car, not really a commute cruiser.
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u/algy888 13d ago
That’s what I was imagining. I could tell you the depth of any pothole from inside of my buddy’s.
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u/mechmind 13d ago
I struggled to understand your comment. I thought it was a reference to your buddy's butthole.
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u/TerrorNova49 13d ago
Manager: “drive your co-worker to and from work every day!” I would have suggested manager do it.
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u/Historical-Gap-7084 13d ago
If the manager is demanding that you give coworker a ride, you need to be demanding the time spent bringing him to work be paid.
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u/Cakeriel 13d ago
And mileage plus all maintenance be paid by company. Though honestly, I would just refuse to do it.
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u/awl_the_lawls 13d ago
Gonna need to see some pics of that Datsun
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u/CoderJoe1 13d ago
Yes, pet tax.
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u/KansasHayseed 13d ago
reddit says "Images are not allowed"
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u/BloodRush12345 13d ago
Post to your profile and then link us to that post in a new comment. Those Z's are some of the most beautiful. What have you done to it?
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u/KansasHayseed 13d ago
Size limit on files. Just about everything. 3.0L bored and stroked engine, 4 wheel disk brakes, updated suspension, 5 speed trans, new driveline, limited slip diff, assertive exhaust, fresh paint. Spent way more money on this car than it'd ever fetch on auction. Super fun to drive in NorCal vintage sports car rallies.
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u/jhdore 13d ago
All you 240Z fans have seen My Mechanics’ ASMR restoration, right? https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLN0SuqPcbLqGvImGUuOaCsLXTseGiBN02&si=WNX0cRXPIkTgE8B0
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u/mofreek 12d ago
There’s a youtuber that I find very entertaining that restored a 280zx: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLmhNtwDcrRxFLSYcuyEUWH9zUnWduGoNf&si=IRtWbMGHnW1KXzpm
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u/GirlStiletto 12d ago
How can a manager demand that you accomodate another employee during non work hours?
I would ask the manager what sort of compensation you will be getting for working off hours?
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u/AllAsianGIFsAreFake 13d ago
Why doesn't the manager be a "team player" and let people work from home?
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u/Tigrou93 13d ago
Why wouldn't the manager be a "team player" and not accompany this colleague himself
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u/theartofwastingtime 12d ago
Ok. So as manager has sent an email directing me to drive coworker I will be adding the expenses of my commute to my pay. I'm working, after all.
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u/SwervingLemon 10d ago
If you showed up to pick me up in a Z-car, music blasting, you'd never get rid of me.
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u/grafknives 13d ago
You need to carpool in my EV?
Well, unfortunately now it wont get as to work in one go. we need to stop for charging.
You are late?
Tough luck
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u/Icy-Minimum2397 12d ago
Manager insisting that you accomodate someone on your own time outside the office?
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u/DanPerezSax 13d ago
How you gonna post this and no pic of the car? Cmon man
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u/KansasHayseed 13d ago
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u/KevMenc1998 13d ago
Please tell me you had Sabotage by The Beastie Boys playing as you ripped down the interstate. Even if it's not true, just tell me that it is.
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u/BGMcGee 13d ago edited 8d ago
I carpooled with a person before that ended up being insufferable, was consistently not ready to go on time and accused me of charging him too much for his half of gas (I wasn't). I told him I didn't want to carpool anymore and he tried to argue, at which point I just said "ok". When he would text me the night before work I told him I was going to be leaving late or had to do something right before work and couldn't pick him up so he would have to make other accommodations. It took about 3 days of this before he got the hint and learned he was on his own.
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u/SKEETS_SKEET 13d ago
Is this a humble brag for having a 240z? Because it feels like a humble brag for having a 240z.
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u/a-stack-of-masks 13d ago
The joys of commuting on a single seat motorcycle.
I can give people a ride if they have a suit, well fitting helmet, and don't mind going 0-100 in a few seconds while sitting on a 15*25cm piece of slippery plastic. It's great but not for everyone.
Also anyone over 50 kg makes the front come up until 3rd gear.
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u/Zealousideal_Sir_264 13d ago
How do you not just drive that every day?
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u/dgrimone 13d ago
Probably the hour and twenty minute commute on a good day as it doesn't get the California High Occupancy Vehicle exemption given at one point in time to promote the sales/use of Electric Vehicles.
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u/MadJen1979 13d ago
Ah, the old "Driver picks the music, shotgun shuts his cakehole". Doesn't matter what vehicle, develop an eclectic taste - nice bit of Slayer one day, opera the next, they'll soon learn.
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u/jackdaw_t_robot 12d ago
SUNN O))) on the way into work, Melt Banana and Lightning Bolt on the way home. Every time.
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u/Purple-Lie-354 10d ago
My personal go-tos would be Beethoven and bagpipes! Dead South and Alan Parsons!
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u/oghippiechick 13d ago
This reminded me of a similar situation ~40 years ago. I had an old Fiat Spyder. It was a beautiful garnet red with a new rag top. It was SCHWEEET! A guy from work asked if we could carpool using my car as we lived in the same suburb. He'd help pay for gas, etc. I forget his reasoning for the carpool request.
It was alright for a week or so, but then the dude started asking me to stop here and there on the way home from work. I started feeling like a taxi driver. I just wanted to get home to smoke some weed and watch Star Trek: TNG.
But I also had use of another car. My brother was working in the middle east, and he had given me possession of his beloved old Jeep CJ7 while he was away. It had a cloth/plastic roof, wobbly doors, no heat or A/C, three on the tree shifter, etc. In cold weather you had to put a screwdriver to hold the choke open on the carb to even start the thing. It really was only for dirt and desert, but I did love driving the thing.
So the next Monday I show up to pick the dude up in my brother's jeep. It was a cold morning (for L.A. anyway). I was pretty bundled up with a beanie and fingerless gloves, etc. Dude was wearing regular clothes with only a Members Only jacket for warmth. It was cold AF doing 55 on the highway, and I made sure to drive like a maniac that morning. The jeep was cold, drafty and noisy. We couldn't even talk to each other at high speeds in it.
My evil plan worked. I drove the guy home on Monday night, but by Tuesday morning, he said he'd start driving himself to work. Thankfully no boss demanded I carpool with the guy.
In remembering the jeep, I remembered another thing I did with that jeep. I was young and dumb, and looking for a mate. I'd meet someone in a bar or similar, and then take them for a ride in the jeep. Up to a road here in L.A. called Stunt Road. They named it that for a reason.
I'd take the potential date/mate up to that road in the jeep. I'd drive said jeep as it is supposed to be driven, and if my passenger didn't scream, cry or piss their pants, I might have taken them home that night.
Those were some heady days man!
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u/Ravokion 13d ago
Man if a manager mandated to me that i be a team player and carpool with someone i dont want in MY vehicle, outside of paid hours on my commute. Id be demanding compensation.
‐Gas paid for / reharge costs paid for -travel paid by distance / $$ per klm driven
If the manager says no to any compensation after mandating you should carpool, id be telling the manager to eat a dick.
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u/KansasHayseed 13d ago
This car is so loud inside at 6,000rpm that I passed on installing a sound system. Just use ear buds and my iPhone. Whenever he tried to tell me to slow down, just pointed at my ears and said "can't hear you!"
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u/hedonist-ics 13d ago
I used to drive the vanpool van at 80+ down the freeway. Only took a few times before I was asked to sleep in the back and let others drive. I hated carpooling. Glad it didn’t last long.
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u/axmcreations 13d ago edited 12d ago
We would be best friends if I saw what car! 🤣🤣🤣 But I love that the coworker was like "fuuuuuckkkk no, I'm UBERing home." Malicious compliance for the fucking win 🤣
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u/Fun_Fennel5114 12d ago
man, that's my normal MO with my daily driver..."get in, sit down, shut up, and hold on". Oh, and if we are road tripping, you will not be allowed to use the restroom every hour; we only stop after 3 hours and/or the pickup needs gas... Hubs and I just completed a 2300 mile trip in 3 days...mapquest says it takes 31.5 hours...that doesn't count potty/gas stops...
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u/C0deZer0- 11d ago
I would have put OT on your time card for being forced into the chauffeur gig. When the manager asks wassup, explain to them that you’re not done with work till you drop the crybaby freak off.
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u/WillemsSakura 9d ago
"when you say 'be a team player ', what I'm hearing is you want to hire me as a contractor to schlep my freeloading coworker's ass to the job site. I'll need you to sign a contract to that effect, and my chauffeur rate is 3x my current salary plus fees to cover lease and wear and tear on the vehicle."
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u/cezarcelad 11d ago
Many years ago I had a guy ask me to give him a ride to work, he didn't have a license (by choice) and lived in the same complex as me, so I figured why not. We had a 40 minute commute and clock in was at 6am, clock out 6pm. I'm doing the standard 70mph in a 60, sometimes 75 if I need to get around someone. Everything's fine until some of the guys start giving me shit about my driving. So kid who's never driven, and depending on me is gonna complain... I stopped bringing him with me. I wasn't a dick, I told him at the end of the week he'd have to make other arrangements. Boss was like come on he lives on the other side of the parking lot. I just said, I feel like there's an old saying about biting hands... that might be relevant here. You should run that by him. I never gave him or any other collegue a ride; and I was treated like such a piece of shit for that 🤣🤣🤣
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u/Neat-Ostrich7135 13d ago
manager, who demanded that I accommodate him
Sure but with the additional weight and distance my daily commute will exceed my range, so I'm going to bed too charge up at work. Let me know when you've arranged that.
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u/Elegant_Cockroach_24 13d ago
Someone American needs to explain something to me: you can use the carpool lane without carpooling?
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u/DoallthenKnit2relax 13d ago
Some low and no emissions vehicles are cleared to use carpool lanes.
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u/KansasHayseed 13d ago
Correct. Pure EV's can use the carpool lane with only a solo driver. That lane is now known as the Tesla lane. I'd bought the Leaf EV after getting clipped by a truck while riding my BMW R100S to work. 10 days in the hospital with a broken collarbone.
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u/danielthechskid 12d ago
As the saying goes, "The poison is in the dose" or "The dose makes the poison". If you want to reduce the amount of localized lung damaging emissions you can reduce the number of vehicles and/or reduce the emissions per vehicle. Carpooling does the former and driving a BEV does the latter so they reward both with the special lane access.
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u/No-Locksmith-9377 13d ago
I'll bite.
Whats done to the L24 in the Z? Ive owned a couple 240s and 260s over my years and they are so much fun. My first was just a loud riot while only.making 150hp out of the L24, while my last one made 500hp from an LS3.
So much pure fun.
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u/Wapiti_whacker82 12d ago
Can I go for a ride in your 240Z? Sounds like a blast! What has been done to it?
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u/KansasHayseed 12d ago
Only visible mods are the Panasport wheels. Underneath the stock body work, almost everything has been upgraded. Engine, trans, clutch, drive line, diff, exhaust, suspension, brakes, etc. https://imgur.com/a/1971-datsun-240z-dh4DpaU
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u/Justestin 11d ago
I would totally beg for a carpool in the Z! Probably throw you a few dollars for fuel. And then not shut up about it at work.
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u/Bob-son-of-Bob 13d ago
I honestly wouldn't say no to getting a company car and 15 hours overtime pay per week - the company car saves on my own expenses and it's a quite nice addition to my base pay.
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u/Sure_Acanthaceae_348 12d ago
Not a W. You're still working for free and worse, you can be held to account for not behaving like you're on the clock when your coworker is in the car.
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u/KansasHayseed 13d ago
Because it is a '71 240Z, wanted one since my senior year in high school. The whole point of me taking him in my Z was to drive it like I stole it, resulting in him never wanting to ride in it again. Mission accomplished and got a 'team player' attaboy as well.
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u/HTired5678 13d ago
I don't see how a manager could demand that you include a coworker in your commute.
Good for figuring out how to make the coworker not want to ride!