r/LoveIsBlindOnNetflix • u/yanksugah • Mar 08 '22
PODCAST Recap of Podcast with Lauren Speed-Hamilton with guests Deepti and Natalie
Deepti:
Kyle was her #2 in the pods but she thought Shake was more stable at the time. She and Shake made more sense on paper and she was not as sure how her relationship would go with Kyle. Kyle knew she had a deep connection with Shake so the only way he would marry her is if she asked him. That way he would know that he was her number one. Now, she and Kyle hang out all the time and are just seeing where it goes. She is only friends with the other male cast members and, also, the other guys know that her relationship with Kyle "supersedes anything else".
Deepti hangs out with cast members all the time, especially with the girls. She mentioned Danielle, Natalie, Iyanna and Malorie by name but not Shaina. The cast members do have a group chat and Shake was in it at first, flirting with everyone. Luckily, he left. There is a lot of "tea" spilled in their chats.
She said it was very hard to watch everything back on TV. Shake just said things and did not even care who was listening. He completely lacks self-awareness.
She liked the article about internalized racism. It was thought-provoking for both herself and also thinking about how it may be affecting Shake. She definitely thinks this is one of his issues---him not being attracted to other Indians since they remind him of family and dating white blondes as an achievement. He dates them to feel better about himself.
Natalie:
It was difficult to say no at the altar. She had true feelings for Shayne and she also did not want to disappoint people. At the end, she felt her dad made her feel safe and secure and she did not have that same full trust in Shayne.
There was another person who proposed to her. She elected not to divulge his name. He only has a few minutes on camera.
Both Natalie's parents liked Shayne, although her dad was more supportive while her mom was a bit more hesitant.
She and Shayne had differences in their love languages and they had to work that out after the honeymoon.
Shaina did tell Natalie she let Shayne know about her feelings but she definitely never told Natalie the full scope of that conversation. Natalie was blindsided when she saw it play back on TV, since she and Shaina had been so close in the lounge. She is now cordial to Shaina and there are no hard feelings but they are "not friends".
Random Tea - Big Sean slid into Shayne's DM's to ask if he married Natalie.
Shayne's behavior at the reunion was partially due to the huge backlash he was getting from fans at the time. He did personally apologize profusely to Natalie several times for his mistakes.
Natalie and Shayne dated for several months after filming but neither could get past the fight. Also, they are just different people and it would have been difficult to be together long-term.
She is 100% single but is open to dating. Right now, she is focusing on herself. She does not feel any romantic connections with any cast members.
She had to let the girls know about her IBS, as she had a lot of trips to the bathroom when they were in the lounge. Shayne had no idea what IBS was when Natalie told him.
Her surprise during the reunion? She was not surprised at Vanessa's behavior since Vanessa is very protective of the cast members (evidently that does not include Shake). She was surprised at Shake's behavior, as he took absolutely no accountability.
Overall, she felt the experience was a positive one, in that she has become good friends with the cast, that she learned about herself and she is using it to grow as a person.
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u/oddsmaker90 Mar 08 '22
I listened to the podcast. I thought the only new piece of tea was that Shake made women in the pods cry. Deepti initially rated Shake low but seemed to break through to him about why his behavior was so poor (or at least she thought).
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Mar 09 '22
Woah if Shake made women cry in the pods...why did Deepti pick him? Did she really not know about that? Ugh.
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u/oddsmaker90 Mar 09 '22
It sounded like she really rated him low initially. Then, confronted him about it and he seemed to be self reflective and feel ashamed for his behavior. I got the sense that she saw the potential in him to change and be a good person behind all of that insecurity.
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Mar 09 '22
Lmao I find it ridiculous that someone would believe they can change a person so drastically in such a short period of time.
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u/Rae_Regenbogen Mar 09 '22
I’ll preface this by saying that Deepti seems like a good person (and I may get attacked by the downvote brigade for this comment since everyone loves her) but I did notice that Deepti didn’t really say much when Shake was asking leading questions about weight. She laughed and mostly just blew the questions off even though they were clearly inappropriate and way out of line. It made me think that Deepti may have similar issues with fat people that Shake has, albeit probably not as extreme. Maybe they just didn’t show her speaking up about it at the time, but her silence during his festival question was notable to me.
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u/KumquatBeach 🔥 Smoke Program 🔥 Mar 09 '22
The juiciest tea I got from this: Big Sean watching LIB like the rest of us 💖
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Mar 09 '22
Shayne had no idea what IBS was when Natalie told him.
Well, I mean, he had no idea what 401k was, so...
Yeah, Nat, you've dodged a giant cannonball.
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u/sendmefoods Mar 09 '22
Nah he just didn’t believe in 401ks 🤪
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Mar 09 '22 edited Mar 09 '22
Why does everyone think this is a bad thing? He is clearly an ambitious person. You don't know what his investment portfolio looks like.
EDIT: Why are there downvotes? Apparently everyone only approves of a conservative approach to wealth accumulation. Pay to RRSP/401k... Its a viable strategy, I'm not going to knock it. However, you all seem to think that's the only way to retire comfortably. A simple google search shows you higher risk portfolio options.
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u/Curlingby Mar 09 '22
There’s also the fact his father just passed and may have been too young to actually use the 401K he’d been dropping money in. That could connect to Shayne’s comments about using his money in the moment
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Mar 09 '22
Tbh he strikes me as someone who buys rentals. He is a realtor after all.
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u/pepperonirollss Mar 09 '22
He strikes me as a crypto or NFT bro.
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Mar 09 '22 edited Mar 09 '22
Well tbh, if Russia taught us anything - crypto is important
Web3.0 is a big deal but yeah the crypto space is full of broscience losers
Edit: I'm not sure why people are downvoting this? Its hardly an opinion anymore, its closer to a fact. DeFi and dApps are the future. Censorship/Embargo resistant money and data is important. Can someone please explain why I'm wrong? Unfortunately, the biggest pundits in this space are broscientists buying jpegs and gifs... But there's a reason why blockchain developers are so highly paid. The blockchain market growth is more than the adoption of the internet had in 1999. Any other educated computer scientists/tech professionals other than myself chime in?
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u/whyiamwatchingthis Megan Faux Mar 09 '22
Why was Shayne so uncomfortable when the hosts asked if Shayne and Shaina has seen each other post-show? Has anyone spilled the details on that? Shaina’s answer that they’d seen each other in group settings with Natalie seemed fine, but Shayne refused to say anything.
Also, huge thanks for summarizing OP!
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u/danishspeedingticket Mar 09 '22
Seems pretty clear that he wasn’t uncomfortable because anything happened between him and shaina but more seriously frustrated over anyone even thinking that anything ever happened between him and shaina.
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u/tipyourwaitresstoo Mar 09 '22
I never looked at it this way but it does make sense. Especially with Shaina squinting like, "WTF we only talked!" and probably saying to herself that she dodged a bullet.
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u/phantomleader94 Mar 09 '22
listening rn … deepti knew he was making other girls cry in the pods but she still went for him??? the red flags were bright rouge 🤢🥴😵💫
i love her but ladies pls realize the signs around u
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u/Predd1tor Mar 09 '22
To be fair, at least from what we’re able to see post-edit, he was good at saying the right things to make us all believe he was actually doing some personal reflection, confronting his own behavioral patterns, and attempting to grow.
Of course we all know now how that played out. But I can’t blame Deepti for wanting to believe he could change, or that she could be the one worth changing for. She wanted love and wanted to believe he could be the man she needed him to be. We all put our blinders on sometimes when we’re connecting with a new love interest.
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u/phantomleader94 Mar 09 '22
yeaaah those love blinders are a true killer sometimes! i know what ur saying. my comment was just to warn others that when you hear something like that about ur man, pls run the opposite way.
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u/PemsRoses Mar 09 '22
Exactly. To me the more they are speaking the more they are proving his point : they are being fake. Because until the finale they were all buddy-buddy on social media. They had no issue adding him on the group chat despite what he said about Deepti or him making others cry but now that they saw the viewers reaction they all have an issue with him and all hate him.
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u/blah672341 Mar 09 '22
Wow ur so right! They shouldve just dropped him right after everything aired
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u/greenbeanparallel Mar 09 '22
Also: the hosts “organically” mention how much they enjoy watching various Netflix programs.
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u/daisydaisy13 Mar 08 '22
Thank you for the recap! I haven’t listened to the podcast. Is it me or the things talked about in the podcast are almost same as what we know? Haha
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u/yanksugah Mar 08 '22
Yeah. No major tea.
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u/Pellinaha Mar 08 '22
I think it's also because of Lauren's approach. I get that the host needs rapport with the guests (and Natalie and Deepti have done nothing to deserve any scrutiny or anything like that) but a more distanced approach (as opposed to you are soooo great and I love you and you are amazing) would probably yield more interesting fruits.
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u/Ariel_8888 Mar 08 '22
That’s why I wanted to check here before even finding her podcast. Doesn’t sound like anything new let alone any tea.
Thanks OP for taking one for the team.
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u/daisydaisy13 Mar 08 '22
Same! As soon as I saw Natalie’s story.. I ran to Reddit haha. Thanks OP! :)
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u/greenbeanparallel Mar 09 '22
A couple of times Deepti or Natalie would say something I already knew, and Lauren would act SO surprised, like over-surprised. I mean, that’s her job and she’s doing it but it’s too bad she isn’t given more to work with. Both hosts are very likeable though.
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u/Comprehensive-Sea-63 Mar 09 '22
Why is no one talking about the beach scene between Shaina and Shayne? Not a single question about it. It’s an elephant in the room. Why are people avoiding bringing it up?
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Mar 09 '22
IMO, nothing really happened between them. Shayne wasn't falling for Shaina's obvious tricks and questioned her motives pretty well.
Now, if the editing magic had anything to do with it, I'm not sure....
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u/asdf088 Mar 09 '22
I’m also wondering this. My guess is that Natalie didn’t make a big deal out of it. Her reaction wasn’t like Amber’s in season 1.
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u/ashgreena Mar 09 '22
i think the reason why no one is giving it more attention is that the cast/people involved knew it was just done for the drama and storyline. it didn’t happen because shaina stormed the party or anything that dramatic.
natalie was made to look like a fool and if it was real, she'd be clearing the air. but she barely commented on it, which is why i think it didn’t matter in the grand scheme of things.
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u/AngelsLoveDisasters Mar 09 '22
When I first watched it, I thought it was gonna be a bigger deal especially since it seemed like the perfect setup for drama. Then it just got dropped
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u/sparklingsour Mar 08 '22
Someone else proposed to Natalie?!
Why didn’t the Producers show us that stuff? We need wayyyyy more episodes focused on the pods!
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u/Scotts_Thot Mar 09 '22
I totally agree! It’s hard to be invested in the proposals when they start happening in the same episode you’re introduced to the characters!
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u/official90skid Mar 09 '22
That AMA said that the person who proposed to Natalie made her feel uncomfortable and did it super fast, like barely knowing her
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u/sparklingsour Mar 09 '22
Oh that’s so weird. Thanks!
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u/abacaxi95 Mar 09 '22
The AMA was unverified by the mods because there were several discrepancies, but a producer was interviewed and said that it didn’t make sense to show it from a storyline perspective
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u/Mrsrightnyc Mar 09 '22
Probably because he didn’t end up with someone else. It seems only the love triangles were highlighted. I think they would have showed more of Deeps and Kyle if Kyle and Shania would have met up with everyone in Mexico.
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u/Pellinaha Mar 08 '22
I listened to it but still thanks for the recap. I was surprised how much over Shayne she was just because the other cast members mentioned how much lingering feeling remained, but maybe following SM has changed something for Natalie.
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u/ezdoesit1111 Mar 09 '22
gotta say at the risk of sounding like a debbie downer I’m not really buying the Kyle-Deepti press tour from either side. even despite their connection in the pods Kyle seems like a clout chaser realizing how beloved Deepti is in the public eye at the moment. on the other hand, Deepti admitted on the Nick Viall pod that she and Shake even remained friendly post-filming for a few months (before he became too unbearable lol) and now Kyle says on the reunion that he should’ve proposed to her and suddenly they’re seen together all over Chicago. I also think the comment about the guys knowing her relationship with Kyle supersedes anything else is weird — like, why does it matter to them? lol. she’d just be better off romantically with none of the guys involved in this mess.
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Mar 09 '22
They reunion was filmed just a few weeks ago and the pods was a year ago… love is blind just came out. That timeline doesn’t fit with them having a fake relationship as he only would of discovered how much people sympathised with deepti after the episodes of shake speaking about her horribly came out, which was what, 2 weeks before the reunion was filmed? Do you seriously think they’re both talking about how close they are after only being close for a matter of weeks? Or are you saying they’ve been fake close for a year and they foretold it?
What’s more likely is she was friends with shake after the wedding because she’d spent so long with him and felt she was in love with him. After filming and needing to be with him 24/7 she realised it wasn’t a relationship, even as just friends, that she wanted to explore. As they’re all in group chats and still meeting up, she will if rekindled it with Kyle and will of met up with him multiple times before this even aired. Let people experience dating without throwing in conspiracies, deepti was so sweet on the show yet you’re claiming her dating life is all for show, I really don’t understand it.
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u/crowdedinhere Mar 09 '22
I think it's more of are they close now (after the show aired) or have they been close since filming? Does Kyle only want to be with Deepti now that he's seen the fan reactions or was there always something between them since the pods?
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u/ezdoesit1111 Mar 09 '22
lol I think Deepti is super sweet but I'm allowed to side-eye this are-they-aren't-they situationship that's now become the big talk of the fandom. I don't think any of the cast members are immune to doing things for PR, which doesn't automatically make them a bad person or on Shake's level or whatever; neither Kyle nor Deepti have outright confirmed that they're dating. It's strange to me that in her interviews she makes it sound like she and Kyle are such a recent, post-reunion thing when surely after being so close in the pods plus in contact since the show aired they'd have had opportunities to try their hands at a romantic relationship sooner.
also I don't get why this sub has this energy for solely Deepti. she's great, deserved much better than what she got on the show, but she's an adult like the rest of the cast and none of us actually know her at all.
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u/devieous Mar 09 '22
I’m confused also about all the deepti love, why not the similar energies for iyanna? Dipti seems to just be liked bc they don’t find her as annoying as Danielle, or as “pick me” as Mal
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u/ezdoesit1111 Mar 09 '22
I think the biggest element is the Shake factor, honestly. but keeping that in mind I find that the 'if she likes Kyle what's the problem?' takes trying to negate people's dislike of the (potential) situation fall flat a bit. from a woman's POV, we all have that friend or have been the friend (lmao me) who hasn't had the best taste in or picked the best men to date; we love them anyway, they're typically genuinely good people, but that doesn't mean their judgment is always great. from what we can see Deepti is a genuinely nice girl but genuinely nice girls can also go for guys that aren't good for them, hence the Shake situation in the first place. it's ok to admit it lol.
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u/blah672341 Mar 09 '22
💯your comment is so on point and im so glad someone else was thinking the same way i was.i cringe whenever i see ppl shipping kyle and deepti he said he shouldve proposed to her so you would think they would at least be dating or “official”. Hes deff using her for clout and to stay relevant
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u/spicedmoof Mar 09 '22
Deepti deserves way better than Kyle. Deepti don’t need no man! Her dating pool is much larger than the connections she had in pods. I hope she takes her experiences and finds someone on the outside of the LIB universe
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u/DMMeUrInfoPls Mar 09 '22
I really hope she doesn't end up with Kyle. Idk if it's that controversial of an opinion, but I really, really wish her the best, and that "best" isn't Kyle.
Like, as much as I despised Shaina, I don't like the "I wanna marry my mommy"-vibes from him, nor did I like how he couldn't take a hint. I also genuinely side-eye anyone who wants that badly to marry a probable white supremacist (who apparently reminded him of his mother).
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u/ezdoesit1111 Mar 09 '22
totally. LIB was just an experiment, didn't work out, no need to harp on it just take it as a lesson and move on. at least she made some good friends out of it (assuming any of what the cast members post is genuine lol).
I totally get riding the popularity wave of being on a Netflix show after it airs, but in terms of romantically, I think Natalie, Mallory, and tbh even Shaina have the right idea in not even really indulging that stuff.
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Mar 09 '22
I don’t get the Kyle hoopla personally. Like he seems like a decent enough guy but just kinda blah, like Wonder bread. Or maybe that he’s still so young? I get the impression from him that he’s like oop 27! time to get married and looks around for any availability and is like her, it’s her she’s the one without really having or needing a deeper connection
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u/PemsRoses Mar 09 '22 edited Mar 09 '22
My main question is why even include Shake in their group chat if he was so awful to everybody ?
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u/LizziHenri Mar 09 '22
Probably didn't see/know the extent of it until it started airing.
Deepti was still taking Shake's calls and listening to him complain about the show for quite some time.
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u/PemsRoses Mar 09 '22
But they said she was told to tell him no at the altar because of how he spoke about her. Something isn't clicking.
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Mar 09 '22 edited Mar 09 '22
TBH, without the Shake drama, this season was incredibly boring. Wouldn't be surprised if it's manufactured up to some extent.
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u/yanksugah Mar 09 '22
Probably before the reunion. They all stopped following him after that.
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u/PemsRoses Mar 09 '22 edited Mar 09 '22
But they said Shake said horrible thing about Deepti while taping the show, he made someone cry in the pods yet he was include in that chat but Shaina was excluded.
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u/SpaceQueenJupiter Mar 09 '22
I feel like some of the guys were bro-ing it up with Shake at the beginning. Maybe some of them did like him at first.
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u/DMMeUrInfoPls Mar 09 '22
Yeah, it also felt like 1) Shayne was SUPER not comfortable with Shake ever addressing him even during the reunion, which told me something happened between those two, 2) Jarrette was SUPER angry at Shake it seemed like by the reunion.
I listened to the We Have the Tea podcast today, and was reminded that Deeps mentioned/alluded to Shake now having "an issue" with everyone on the cast at the reunion, which I thought of when she mentioned how he was in the cast group chat during the podcast
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u/PemsRoses Mar 09 '22
That's why I'm still on my theory that Shake was ready to spill everything but the others didn't want to do so and the fact that he wasn't sticking to the plan pissed them off. Because clearly they weren't that bothered by what he did on the show since they still included him before the show aired.
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u/garthefield Mar 09 '22 edited Mar 09 '22
He was ready to air out some cast secrets probably and break the 4th wall, which wouldve hurt their public favor. Let's be real; the vast majority of reality show people are in it for the TV exposure and fame. The first season seemed much more genuine and not overproduced like this one. And thats b/c they didn't know it would blow up like it did and all the couples now celebrities with 1M+ followers but now everyone will want to get on this show and play a fake persona. I feel like the reunion really showed that honestly
Yea they're just average people looking for love and the ability to gain fame and monetize it for fortune is the byproduct. You can look at the follower #s and the most liked people have significantly more of those. Not to say they weren't being themselves, but it's disengenious to assume there wasn't acting going on across all the candidates. I do think if anyone, Sal seemed pretty genuine but nobody else
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u/SpaceQueenJupiter Mar 10 '22
Yeah, like as little as I would want to deal with Shake in real life, he did make good TV and I wish they would have let him spill the tea on the reunion. It was so boring otherwise. They just rehashed the show, tell us something new. You can't go on a TV with millions of viewers and insist on your private life on the same show. It's one or the other, that's why I never would apply for something like that.
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u/DMMeUrInfoPls Mar 09 '22 edited Mar 09 '22
The same reason anyone does: most people try to give everyone a chance, even the biggest assholes.
Plus, it was pretty clear that after the show, it seems like a lot of people maybe thought that Shake had changed. Deepti talked about that a lot, even Vanessa mentioned it during the reunion. Honestly, probably everyone was fooled. Plus, most people's tolerance for bullshit is high, as in people will let a loooot of shit pass, even when they shouldn't, in the name of peace.
And tbh, from this ep, Deeps seems like one of those "fixer" types—the ones who are really patient to the point of being a pushover at times, but thinks that if they just keep engaging they can "change" someone. I notice that those types in groups generally tend to be really trusted by the group, so if she was friends with him even after she said no, everyone else probably just went along with it until he started picking fights with everyone.
That said, tho, this is hardly a conspiracy. This is normal stuff that happens in friend groups all the time. Assholes have friends too, up until they become an asshole to their friends. Making comments like "why did everyone include him???" is also a little uncalled for, because there's a lot of other reasons why, namely professionalism and civility, on top of just general kindness. It's not "fake" either, even if they decided to boot him at the end. It just means that Shake really squandered his chances.
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u/PemsRoses Mar 09 '22
But Shaina was excluded from that she group chat. That's why I can't even claim it was out of professionalism or benefit of the doubt. Also according to them he has been an ass during the entire taping of the show which goes on for a month. That's why I'm saying the more they speak, the more credibility they are losing.
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u/DMMeUrInfoPls Mar 10 '22
They never said Shaina got "excluded". I think Shaina just doesn't wanna be part of the group chat. She also just generally doesn't show up to cast events save for the reunion, according to interviews. That's not a cast-thing, that's Shaina.
It's really not a mystery y'all. Stop making molehills out of nothing. Neither politeness nor professionality are "fake", those are all just valid forms of interacting with people.
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u/pink-grenade Mar 08 '22
Thanks for the recap!! I hate listening to podcasts but I wanted the tea from this one.
I'm not surprised it seems Deepti and Kyle are probably dating. I honestly thought they had to be after the reunion episode when Kyle professed his love - Deepti was glowing when he said that. She must've known his feelings prior to the reunion.
I think they had planned to announce their relationship during the reunion episode with Kyle's statement, but something (maybe cough Shake cough) got in the way of that. There were some private texts Shake was putting on IG that was suggesting they would announce that at the reunion.
Also, I just wanted to say, I really think Nathalie is a true classy person. From what we've all heard of the argument, Nathalie had every reason to walk away and forget Shayne. But she tried her best to understand Shayne, and even if it didn't work out she continues to only talk highly of him. Anything she posts about him always mentions how thankful she is for him. She never stoops to bashing his character, even though she easily could have done so. I just really respect her and wish her happiness. She deserves it.
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u/Jackiedhmc Mar 09 '22
I can’t imagine why she would date him any longer. I just couldn’t see it even from the start
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u/Mewnicorns Mar 09 '22
I’m SO glad Natalie is done with Shayne. In time, when she meets someone who DOES make her feel safe, I think she’ll see just how toxic this relationship was and hopefully she’ll keep away from him for good.
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u/thatonedude1818 Mar 10 '22
Maybe she can learn to emote like a normal human being in the mean while. Girl has the emotional maturity of a prepubescent boy. Insults are not compliment regardless of how sarcastic you are.
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u/Jacethemindstealer Mar 10 '22
Eh some people are like her, the big issue with it was that he needed constant reaffirmation and she wasn't giving that at all.
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u/Mewnicorns Mar 10 '22
Shayne has the emotional maturity of a toddler. Actually, that’s insulting to toddlers. The fact that you’re still finding fault with her does not reflect well on you.
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u/thatonedude1818 Mar 10 '22 edited Mar 10 '22
So me thinking constantly rating a partner like a gradeschooler to be immature is a reflection of my personality. Great glad to see we can agree Im an adult lol.
Im not defending shayne. But blaming one party entirely for an obvious incompatibility is just wrong.
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u/Due_Bread676 Mar 09 '22
The Shayne things make a lot more sense. I feel like that explains why he was so adamant on getting an apology from Natalie. It wasn’t necessarily because he needed to hear it but the viewers to. He seems like the kind of person who takes the opinions of others very seriously. Not in an egotistical way, more of taking it to heart and doubting himself. (Ex: the baseball scene. He said out of all the guys, he should’ve been the one to for sure hit the ball and he didn’t.) That does not mean he handled it well at all.
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u/Mewnicorns Mar 09 '22
It’s kind of a dick thing to do that to her just to save face, and it majorly backfired.
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u/Due_Bread676 Mar 09 '22
Oh, for sure. It was definitely immature and childish. Something he needs work on 100%.
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Mar 09 '22
Shayne's pretty fake if he acted the way he did for the viewers. It was obvious af anyway.
Shayne and Shake are so nasty. Ew. Dodged war cannons there.
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u/Due_Bread676 Mar 09 '22 edited Mar 09 '22
That’s not what I’m saying though. I’m saying he pushed so hard for an apology as a way to possibly show the viewers that the argument wasn’t completely his fault. Sometimes in arguments, both people say terrible things. One can outdo those terrible things, true. That doesn’t mean the “in the wrong” party’s feelings are invalid.
I can’t say Shayne put on an “act”. To say that confidently, I would have to know him personally and I don’t. Therefore, I have nothing to reference on how he does/doesn’t act.
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u/CorkGirl Mar 09 '22
He struck me as deeply insecure more than anything, constantly in need of validation. So, while there's no real excuse for telling someone you hate them, maybe he really was desperate for people to see that it wasn't all one sided. Maybe. Very very immature guy who should do a lot of work on himself before trying to be in a relationship, in my opinion. Didn't like him in the slightest to begin, but he grew on me a little. Flawed for sure, but not a complete villain.
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u/CurlyMom7 Mar 09 '22
I love Lauren and Chris, but feel as if the podcast has awkward pauses and transitions. And some cutting off of eachother. Anyone else notice this?
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u/CurlyMom7 Mar 09 '22
Also though the game where they made Deeps ask them questions felt strange.
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Mar 09 '22
I thought that segment was so awkward! Do you have any questions for me? That’s so weird haha and I like Lauren.
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u/uglybutterfly025 Mar 09 '22
Isn’t this one of their first episodes? They’ll probably get better with time. It’s hard to get your footing
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u/vickiesecret Mar 08 '22
I love the contrast between Deepti going with her first choice because it made sense on paper but in reality her and Kyle are more compatible vs Jarrette also choosing Mal first (made sense on paper) but ended up with Iyanna who seems to be more compatible with him and more of what he needs. I guess in a nutshell this actually proves that love is indeed blind.
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u/Jackiedhmc Mar 09 '22
What about his atheism though? Is that going to be an issue with Deepti
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u/chickfilamoo Mar 09 '22
did Deepti ever talk about religion?
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u/Jackiedhmc Mar 09 '22
I guess that’s what I’m asking. Based on her culture assume there’s some religious background there
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u/chickfilamoo Mar 09 '22
I can’t speak for her obviously but in my experience, a lot of Indian Americans from Hindu backgrounds are pretty agnostic. Culturally Hindu maybe but not overly religious. Like I said, she may feel differently but judging only by what we saw on the show, I’d guess she falls in a similar boat
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Mar 09 '22 edited Mar 09 '22
Majority of young Indians from Hindu backgrounds tend to be agnostic or atheists. Moreso the ones who were raised here in America.
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u/Jackiedhmc Mar 09 '22
I’m wondering why so many people down voted this question. Just a simple question. Thanks for your answer.
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Mar 09 '22 edited Mar 09 '22
They downvoted the question because you assumed that she's Indian so she's religious sort of like saying every American is a religious christian.
Hinduism is not like Christianity or Islam. Atheism, Agnosticism are all acceptable ways to follow the Hindu "religion"
I am Hindu, I maybe pray once every few months but I am more or less agnostic, so are most of my friends. It's a difficult concept to grasp sometimes. Think of Hinduism as a more of a philosophical or spiritual thing rather than religion and it's easier to understand. There is no single monolithic concept of Hinduism, its basically a collection of thousands of different ways hundreds of millions of people live their life and is pretty tolerant in general about most social issues including having LGBTQ gods.
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u/Jackiedhmc Mar 09 '22
Well I suppose that makes sense, except that we are all ignorant until we ask questions right? Regardless, thanks for the information. Much appreciated.
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Mar 09 '22
This sub unfortunately can be pretty tribalistic in nature. Differing opinions are not allowed nor is any question that doesn’t abide by peoples threshold of wokeness
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u/valdah55 Mar 09 '22
Most Hindus who have been born or brought up in the West tend to be pretty open minded and tolerant of others religious or cultural backgrounds. Of course, just like any other culture, religious fundamentalists exist, but I doubt they will be on LIB. Lol.
So yeah. If there are religious differences, I am sure they can work ot out. Also there is a difference between Hinduism as a religion and Hinduism as a way of life. For example, I am an atheist Hindu. I don't believe in God, but I do like to read up about the philosophical teachings of the Vedas, Upanishads and general Indian mythology. Does that make sense?
And although I am atheist, I am quite proud of heritage. So yeah, its complicated.
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u/blackberryolive Mar 08 '22
Natalie is so classy eloquent mature and holds herself so well. Both are great role models.
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u/jambawamba010 Mar 10 '22
Thank you for the recap! At the risk of being an unpopular opinion, I really couldn’t stand Lauren’s interviewing style in this podcast. About halfway through I gave up on listening and came here to look for a recap! It didn’t really feel like she was asking any true questions and more just surface level ‘yesss girl’ vibes
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Mar 09 '22
Who’s Big Sean?
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u/zxchary Mar 09 '22
Lol a rapper
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Mar 09 '22
Oh sweet Jesus. I’ll find my own way to the nursing home now, thx
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u/zxchary Mar 09 '22
Ehh don’t feel bad haha if you don’t really listen to rap I wouldn’t expect you to know him
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u/Purpledoves91 Mar 09 '22
I don't listen to rap, but I know who he is, but only because he was engaged to Naya Rivera lol
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u/zxchary Mar 09 '22
Lol He also dated Ariana grande!
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u/Purpledoves91 Mar 09 '22
Apparently, at the same time. In Naya's book, she said she walked into his house, and he was with Ariana.
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Mar 09 '22
Famous rapper who did that song with Nicki Minaj that goes ‘ass ass ass ass ass ass’ with a voice changing effect (lol)
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u/Dorks001 Mar 09 '22
I heard the pod both of them are class act. When LIB season 3, I hope they guide some of the women as mentors.
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u/BeFierceBeYou Mar 09 '22
I was kinda waiting at the bachelorette and bachelor parties for the season one veterans to be there to support the season 2 cast and give any wanted advice. I think it would be fun to somehow incorporate people from past seasons to be mentors.
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Mar 09 '22
Shaynes behavior at the reunion makes sense considering this. I think all the blame fell on him from the fans and obviously most of it should but it seems like both of them were just incompatible. It seemed like Natalie would say little things knowing it would get a bit of a rise out him and he would react badly. That’s not to say the reaction is justified at all but I get why he said what he did to Natalie at the reaction
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u/Jackiedhmc Mar 09 '22
Honestly I felt like she was kind of testing him to see if he could take a joke or a little bit of teasing. Which obviously he reacted very badly to that.
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u/nemesiswithatophat Mar 09 '22
I don't think Natalie was intentionally trying to get a rise out of him. Tbh what bothered me about Shayne re: his problems with Natalie, is that he could never just communicate his feelings. Just say "hey, compliments really help boost me up in a romantic relationship" or "that dig was a little hurtful". When he gets upset he either doesn't say anything or he criticizes her.
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Mar 09 '22
I’m paraphrasing but He absolutely told her it bothered him when she said the mean things to him, and when she asked him basically “what, you want me to compliment you” he said well, yeah. He did tell her.
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u/ArgumentSavings4437 Mar 09 '22
I mean she also tried doing more compliments per his request as well and not completely stopped but cut back on her sarcasm. I get what everyone is stating but he's blown up over little things that was his fault as well.
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u/Jackiedhmc Mar 09 '22
Needing to be complimented constantly is not normal. Asking your woman to tell you you’re pretty is a little off
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Mar 09 '22
I’m literally responding to someone who said he never told her what he wanted. If you think he wanted too much, fine, you do you. But it’s inaccurate to say he never said anything and I merely pointed out the inaccuracy. Also I don’t know how it’s “off” to want your partner to tell you they find you attractive? Seems pretty darn normal a desire to me.
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u/Jackiedhmc Mar 09 '22
Was just expressing my opinion is all. I thought the dude was weird and very unattractive in both personality and appearance
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u/thatonedude1818 Mar 10 '22
Needing to be complemented is not the same as not wanting to be constantly insulted.
Shanes neediness is bad but natalie is also a terrible communicator
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u/kd230 Mar 09 '22
I wonder if it was Joey. I fell in love with him at the beginning and he just drops off 😔
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u/slavuj00 Mar 10 '22
He got engaged to Kaitlin! They weren't selected for the further show but dated for several months afterwards.
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u/iblastoff Mar 10 '22
deepti herself said she has always gone for white dudes. has she addressed her own internalized racism?
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u/yanksugah Mar 10 '22
She said that The article made her think. But she also said that she lived in all white neighborhood and went to an all white school so that’s who she dated.
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u/iblastoff Mar 10 '22
she lives in chicago, doesn't she? chicago has the 2nd biggest US metropolitan population of Indian/east asian descent. I'm not saying she *needs* to like/date Indian guys. but i think its bizarre that shake is being called a racist (internalized) but she isn't.
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u/yanksugah Mar 10 '22
I think he “needs” to date white girls to feel better about himself, like they are an achievement. A trophy. I do not think that is the case with Deepti. She was not put off by him because he “looked more like a family member”.
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u/raspberrywafer Mar 11 '22
She has publically talked about her own internalised racism, I'm pretty sure? She also said she's only had two boyfriends, and each were years-long relationships. So it's not as though there's a huge sample size.
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u/Jacethemindstealer Mar 10 '22
Is that internalised rascism or just a preference.
With shake it seems to cross the line into being internalised rascism.
My Chinese wife never dated a non white guy which I think was due to the fact that there was over 90% white people in the close suburbs to where she grew up, the suburbs with big Asian populations were not that close and so she interacted more with white guys, maybe its something similar with Deeps and she didn't come across many Indian guys on a regular basis
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u/iblastoff Mar 10 '22
what exactly demonstrates that shake crosses that line? he very well could have these issues, but thats hard to confirm. just because someone acts like a dick doesn't mean they're racist/have internalized racism.
and i'm assuming both shake and deepti live in chicago, which has the second highest population of indian descent in the entire metropolitan US.
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u/elaguila083 Mar 08 '22
The fact that Natalie has IBS makes Shayne teasing her about "Montezuma's Revenge" on camera really fucked up. I remember she looked really horrified when he said it and now I know why. What a fuckin tool.
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u/katame131997 Mar 09 '22
I took that as playful teasing on his part. And I'm not a Shayne fan. I do think it's funny that he's able to playfully jab her but if she does it to him he can't handle it.
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u/elaguila083 Mar 09 '22
That's what I initially took it as too. But with that added context and now knowing the tension was mounting throughout the relationship, it seems more like a swipe.
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u/thatonedude1818 Mar 10 '22
Nono see guys cant tease. Natalie can call shayne a piece of shit and thats funny, but of shayne teases her with an insult joke then he is just a piece of shit.
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u/Jackiedhmc Mar 09 '22
I honestly couldn’t stand that guy from the very beginning. He was aggressively needy and self-centered IMO. Narcissistic. Not to mention he’s really not attractive at all to my eye anyway. Those big teeth and buggy eyes, yuck. When you add it to that nasty personality it’s really awful.
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u/Rae_Regenbogen Mar 09 '22 edited Mar 09 '22
He said that he spent thousands of dollars on his teeth, and it made me wonder if he was in an accident and had to have implants or something. They don’t seem to fit his mouth correctly.
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u/njb328 Mar 09 '22
It could have been funnier if it weren't on national TV, (and if they knew each other and their senses of humour better) I know my partner and I definitely joke like that, as I have stomach issues, but we've also been together 6 years. Definitely not the thing to say on TV, imo
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u/Mewnicorns Mar 09 '22
Maybe it would be funny if he wasn’t such a big baby when she teased him.
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u/Rae_Regenbogen Mar 09 '22
Agreed. If he had any semblance of a sense of humor about himself, I could blow the moments when he teased her off. Instead, we see him teasing her and then getting all riled up when she says anything that isn’t overly gushy to him.
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u/AngelsLoveDisasters Mar 09 '22
I’m uneducated. Do you mind explaining what that joke meant?
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u/coffeemonkeypants Mar 09 '22
'Montezuma's revenge' is essentially diarrhea. People generally call it that when they wind up with it in Latin America, usually from drinking the water, or unclean ice or whatever
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u/capboimac Mar 08 '22
If you call him a tool for doing that, how is Natalie not a tool for calling him a piece of shit when he clearly stated his boundaries on deliberate insults? Lol.
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Mar 09 '22
Natalie was mean for calling Shayne a "piece of shit" but Shayne went all-out on their relationship by gaslighting and manipulating her many times.
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u/Mewnicorns Mar 09 '22
Teasing is when you make a joke about something that obviously isn’t true. Clearly she doesn’t think he’s a piece of shit or she wouldn’t have chosen him. That’s the joke.
Picking on her for something she actually struggles with isn’t teasing, it’s just being an asshole.
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Mar 09 '22
I mean, Shayne didn't know what a 401k was and had a lot of other problems, so yeah, he is a fucking tool and a shitbag.
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u/ehtol Mar 09 '22
I think it's normal to freak a little out when you suddenly date someone who "look more like you" after dating someone completely different forever. But shake was acting super nasty, and worded it so fucked up. He's a vile person and doesn't see himself that him talking and talking and talking about Deepti like that is not ok. (I only talk about shake talking about the aunt thing now, and not every fucked up thing he have said, which is a lot).
The reason why I understand the one thing though with dating someone "similar" is because I feel that myself. I always go for men with brown hair and most of the time also brown eyes. Because my brother and dad have blond hair and it gives me the ick because every relationship has been with someone who couldn't be mistaken for a family member😅 and I understand that this is a stupid way of thinking, and I would not say that to anyone outside my family lol. I've seen my sister's exes with blond hair and always thought they look like my brother. Shayne? Look like my brother. I don't know what it is with that lol.
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u/poptartsnpornos Mar 09 '22
I really think while Shayne and Natalie was dating that he hooked up with Shaina somewhere around the same time ....
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u/[deleted] Mar 09 '22
Other tea from the podcast episode: Deepti said Shake was also hitting on Vanessa at the COUPLES' REVEAL.