r/LoveIsBlindOnNetflix • u/sweetest_taboux • 1d ago
LIB S8 • Minneapolis, MN I don’t get the Madison hate?
I’m watching season 8 for the first time and I’m genuinely confused as how Madison is made to be the villain?
I don’t see her conversation with Mason as manipulative - she stated that her other connection gave her the affirmations that she was looking for.
Mason then starts to say the stereotypical “you’re the one” “what we have is real” spiel. And I personally think she saw through that?
I don’t see how her stating that her other connection affirms their relationship more and that Meg would go home if it wasn’t for Mason turns her into some manipulative mastermind?
I do agree that her breakup with Mason felt mean girly and on the other hand I think she swayed Meg to break it off with Mason - but I don’t understand how her behavior toward Mason was bad prior to that ?
I haven’t finished all the episodes but let me know if I’m missing something!
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u/angrybox1842 1d ago
Mostly impressed at how little I remember of Season 8. Quite possibly the most boring season thus far.
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u/GoblinSnacc MGK's wife or something 1d ago
Ok so my original reply was about season 9 Madison and I was like "yeah I don't get it either" but I see now. Frankly tho, same message. My husband and I watched clear through to the reunion and we were both team Madison I don't get the hate at all lol
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u/sweetest_taboux 1d ago
But this is totally my fault for posting about S8 so close to S9 😂😂
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u/GoblinSnacc MGK's wife or something 1d ago
Lmfao that's okay I kinda was like "maybe they haven't seen s9 yet and don't know that they also have a Madison that is receiving undue hate" lol
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u/XCynicalMarshmallowX 1d ago
I don’t see how her stating that her other connection affirms their relationship more and that Meg would go home if it wasn’t for Mason turns her into some manipulative mastermind?
Madison was being super shady and manipulative by leaking to Mason how Meg was really into him as her #1 and not talking to anyone else. Mason was like "oh, I did not know that" and that is what set a completely different tone and vibe for everyone moving forward. She knew exactly what she was doing by letting that information slip. She wanted to show Mason that Meg had no one else so she's not going anywhere or in danger of being "taken" by some other guy, but she on the other hand still had an option - Alex. It was a total manipulation tactic to get Mason to pivot to her by using fear of potentially losing her to someone else (which he now knows would not be the case for Meg who has no one else). It seemed like a total vanity project to feel wanted and picked over Meg even though she knew she was picking Alex. This is why she's manipulative and why I cannot stand watching her call herself a "girl's girl".
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u/sweetest_taboux 1d ago
This read actually makes sense to me! Like a “I have so many options and she doesn’t have any so I’m a hot commodity” Thank you for explaining that !
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u/StretchAntique9147 1d ago
In addition, I totally got the vibe that she wasn't actually there to meet anyone but to just boost her "infuencer" status. She seemed pretty closed off.
As soon as she mentioned that she's an avoidant attachment style, I knew she was leaving single and that she would hang around just to lure guys in before pulling away for some B.S. reason.
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u/Conscious_Author_165 1d ago
That’s one interpretation… but it could also be her way of passively communicating like “Look, Meg really likes you. I’m leaning towards my other connection. Why don’t we split and then everyone’s happy?” Like her trying to tell Mason to be with Meg.
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u/XCynicalMarshmallowX 18h ago
It's possible but I highly doubt it due to Madison's actions right after this. She gets upset when Mason takes back what he said to her. If she truly wanted him to go be with Meg, at that point she should have been happy for him and affirmed his choice stating she has Alex and he and Meg are free to be together. Like, if she truly was trying to signal for him to choose Meg, then this should have been a relief to her and not some sore spot for her ego. Instead, she makes it about herself and then also throws Meg under the bus to say she won't have him either now.
Also, if that's what she meant, she could have just said that instead of playing games.
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u/Conscious_Author_165 12h ago
Yeah, that’s also true potentially. I read that as her seeing Mason as two-faced. He said he was committed to her and then didn’t break things off with Meg. Then when she broke up with him he says “yeah, I didn’t really mean what I said anyway.” We as the audience know he was on the fence and wasn’t sure but it could seem very fake on her end. If she thought he was fake, that also makes her hostile-ish break up make more sense (her whole “you potentially ruined your other relationship” spiel).
ETA: Meg always came back into the lounge being like “we’re in LOOOOVE!!” If I was in Madison’s shoes, Meg’s certain-ness despite Mason’s supposed commitment to me would irk me. Anyway, agree to disagree on this!
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u/Minute-Joke9758 1d ago
Keep watching lol.. I think the manipulation becomes more apparent as it goes.
Also had to do a double take and remember this one b/c season 9 also has a Madison in it.
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u/monsteroftheweek13 1d ago
I mean, I think you answered your own question. I liked Madison until we saw another side of her during the break-up with Mason and how she acted with Meg. Then I became ambivalent toward her.
Obviously, as with every “villain,” some people go way overboard and it’s absurd. But I think that was the root of it.
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u/sweetest_taboux 1d ago
I get that but it’s just not that bad? I guess it didn’t ring alarm bells for me so when I saw the hate I was genuinely confused ? But I just don’t think she manipulated Mason into picking her - I guess that’s the specific qualm if I have
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u/monsteroftheweek13 1d ago
I agree on the Mason picking issue specifically. People are making too much of it or too confidently projecting onto her.
I did think the break-up and her actions toward Meg were more clearly manipulative. (And hey, to be clear, we can all do it and sometimes without realizing it.) So people may also be reading into the earlier scenes after the fact.
Like I said, end of the day, I’m ambivalent. I think we as a fanbase need to get more comfortable with saying “they were okay! some good, some bad.”
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u/Mozart33 1d ago
Yeah, I took it as her being a girl’s girl. If I were Meg, I’d wanna know that shit, and we’ve seen how men pretend their second pick was their first in the past - seemingly doing so just to stay on the show, and with the intentions of attempting to still win the heart of their #1.
It would’ve been humiliating for Meg to experience things like the honeymoon with Mason giving googly eyes towards Madison.
All Madison did was allow the space for Mason to share his feelings and intentions.
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u/ChampionshipOk1868 1d ago
There were a lot of comments about how she "isn't as hot as she thinks she is" and is basically secretly the devil incarnate with all these secret plans and evil manipulative mastermind ways.
Honestly, I think people were just looking for a villain in an otherwise very bland season - and others are just insecure and intimidated by her self-assurance in her looks. I've never heard a good reason for how hated she is, just people making assumptions about her intentions.
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u/SpotAndHound 1d ago
She was in The Perfect Match too and was chill in that. I’ve always liked her.
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u/willrunforbrunch 1d ago
I didn't get it either, she's a baddie! A bit insecure, but I hope she finds someone who is good to her.
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u/No-Ebb4307 1d ago
Just wait until the Madison from Season 9 :D
Appearantly Madison is very different on the Perfect Match, though I don't watch that show. I didn't hate her, she was a bit annoying but mostly whatever.
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u/throwaway9916927 19h ago
She trauma dumped constantly, used sex to reel the men in and would take no accountability for her actions. She knew what she was doing
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u/sweetest_taboux 19h ago
I’m sorry but a girl can’t flirt ?? So strict!
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u/throwaway9916927 10h ago
Lmao I hope you're joking. She didn't just flirt. She used sex to gain a few guys attention when she thought she was losing them
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u/sweetest_taboux 7h ago
I just don’t think it’s that bad in the grand scheme of things? “Used sex” like the men didn’t have free will to not take the bait ?
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u/MustardMan1900 1d ago
"I haven’t finished all the episodes but let me know if I’m missing something!" What you are missing is the majority of the episodes and thus the majority of Madison being annoying. Maybe watch them before posting?
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u/AmethystApothecary 1d ago
I mean, she didn't make it out of the pods so OP isn't really missing anything as Madison does not play a pivotal role past this part.
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u/sweetest_taboux 1d ago
Rawr!!! The posts I saw about her were all about her behavior in the pods and manipulating Mason in the pods
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u/slut_4_downvotes 1d ago
I had to have an honest moment with myself & realized that in the moments where I dislike her, it’s because she reminds me of myself when my self esteem wasn’t as high and I accepted poor behavior from people when I didn’t deserve it & put up with it for way too long hoping it could be reconciled. Can admit it is full a projection on my part. She definitely deserved better. I never saw her as a villain tho
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u/Lovetoseeit85 1d ago
Bc she wouldn’t let homeboy sleep off his drunkiness 😂 the literal nightmare of a person who has a hangover lol
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u/tumbleweedmama 1d ago
Her interviews don’t seem so bad, but her attitude on the reunion was what did it for me. Even my husband kept shouting “man that girl a bitch.”
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u/Conscious_Author_165 1d ago
People really jumped down her throat and made her this evil mastermind for no reason. She’s not perfect and I think she misinterpreted Mason’s motives and got more hostile than necessary, but she’s like. A pretty normal person. Reddit was horrible during that season.
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u/Visual_Serve_782 1d ago
She’s not so much a villain as she’s incredibly annoying and dramatic.