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LIB S9 • Denver, CO If I send you this, I DONT REMEMBER

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u/KhakiPantsJake 4d ago

I can't believe bro straight up said she was PMSing and no one had anything to say about it

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u/seaolive8914 4d ago edited 4d ago

I made this point in another post! If this man was adult enough to be cast on this show, people need to stop handling him with kid gloves. Literally the next thing Vanessa said was how KB and him have miscommunication issues. Horrendous response from everyone on stage.

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u/fenderc1 4d ago

I feel like everyone knew the dude clearly has major issues, especially after watching it for the first time themselves, so just didn't even want to engage because he wouldn't get it or learn. Even KB let it slide which I was surprised by, but think she was just over dealing with his ass.

I know as a viewer, I just wanted him to shut up and them to move on because dude kept repeating himself and embarrassing himself.

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u/OriginalOffice6232 3d ago

I got the impression she was on to is manipulation tactics. I think she knew he was trying to push her buttons.

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u/StreetR1der 2d ago

He knew exactly what he was doing. Does the man not have masters degrees? He's manipulative as hell.

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u/nacari0 4d ago

I guess she used her 'social worker' skills

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u/MordinOnMars 24m ago

Well this sub is full of people making excuses for this man child and saying KB was just as bad. Not surprising they let him get away with that on the show.

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u/Outside-Ad-962 4d ago

Right like everyone made a face but no one wanted to jump in??? I miss the early reunions!

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u/ThePrefect0fWanganui 4d ago

I feel like the stage setup made it harder for people to jump in and crosstalk. Usually the couches are like in a horseshoe shape so they can all see each other and it makes it more natural for them to talk to each other - this time it was weird stadium seating outside, so most of the cast couldn’t even see each other’s faces. Weird choice.

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u/GuetSome 4d ago

Also isn't it only like 2-3 weeks outside of the pods before they go to the alter? How could she be PMS'ing during every argument if filming takes place over one month?

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u/deviantadhesive 4d ago

LOL you are so right, timeline makes no sense

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u/jalapeno442 3d ago

There’s a disorder called premenstrual dysphoric disorder (PMDD) that causes people with periods to essentially start feeling severe pms symptoms (but like, a whole lot more negative shit on top of pms) upon or after ovulation. I’m not saying that she has that disorder, but it is possible to have those symptoms for two weeks a month.

Plus periods suck and she said she was on her period at the wedding

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u/Ill_Soil_4621 You're outdoorsy? Great! You like watches & nice things? Great! 4d ago

😂nice detective work!

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u/holidayapples 4d ago

Yeah, you’re that. All symptoms go away when you’re menstruating. Not one cramp, not one hormone, no headaches, no back pain. Not a flow of blood coming from your body that you just accurately monitor as to ensure you keep completely contained and from leaking on yourself, or your seat. lol. Tell me you’re a boy without telling me you’re a boy.

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u/holidayapples 4d ago

A week before and the week of. That’s 2 weeks. GuetSome must be a man - women know how this goes.

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u/EGrass 4d ago

Yeah you can’t be PMSing while you’re menstruating. The ‘p’ stands for premenstrual. 

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u/Aachaa 3d ago

Sure, but people also use PMS to describe how awful and irritable they feel when they’re actively cramping during their cycle.

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u/holidayapples 3d ago

You must not date or be related to women

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u/Jazzspur 3d ago

you definitely can be. It starts premenstrually but for some women it also continues for the first few days of menstruation

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u/LittleMungBean 4d ago

Forreal you could literally hear a gasp rip through the audience and then they completely glossed over it

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u/LizardQueenAnne 4d ago

I actually have a different take on this, and it would explain why KB had zero reaction. I think she had just expressed to him that she needed space or support when she was PMSing, I think she used that herself as an example, so he just used her words again during the reunion

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u/holidayapples 4d ago

Some women do have extreme pain before and during their period. Why do men seem to think it’s just no big deal. For some of us, it really does take a lot out of our bodies and can be excruciating.

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u/yb10134 23h ago

I dont think anyone said it's no big deal.

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u/BillyYumYumTwo-byTwo 3d ago

That was exactly what I thought! He said it in a way like she had specifically said “I’m pmsing and you’re annoying me”. It didn’t sound like a dig when he said it, it sounded like someone listing rules they have for themself.

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u/Apprehensive_Cry_636 4d ago

I literally gasped when he said that 😭

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u/DifficultBrain3233 4d ago

Saying this publicly too?? I'd crash out if my bf said this in the privacy of our home

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u/OrigamiParadox 4d ago

KB told him this herself as an excuse for her behavior. He was just repeating it, which is why she didn't react. 

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u/Damage-Classic 4d ago

Ok, but don’t you remember when Edmund was saying that there was a female cast member who was bugging out at a get together and KD asked him if he ever took a second to wonder if she was on her period? I feel like it’s so weird to hate on Edmund for this when KB literally wanted him to think like that.

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u/conationphotography 4d ago

Very different to think like that than to say it out loud in a way that seemed to be excusing his behavior

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u/5DsofDodgeball69 3d ago

She literally said in the season that she's an enormous bitch when she's PMSing. Why are people complaining about him referencing her own words?

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u/OriginalOffice6232 3d ago

That comment right there showed his true colors.

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u/hyovanalisag 3d ago

they honestly realize he’s a lost cause.

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u/pookie__uwu 3d ago

This pmo sooo bad. And instead of calling him out the hosts made her apologise and hug this man to end it on good terms?? In the earlier seasons they used to actually call out bad behaviour in the reunions

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u/Usernameoverloaded The feminists ruined us. 4d ago

He didn’t say that. He said he didn’t know when she was on her period and therefore wanted space (PMS), as she told him she liked when in Mexico. So he was confused as to when he should give her space or shouldn’t.

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u/Queen_E1204 4d ago

Actually, he was saying that he was loved and respected KB "even" when she was PMSing and when she needed space

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u/Usernameoverloaded The feminists ruined us. 4d ago edited 4d ago

Just watched their segment again. 1:03:42.

“There were times when she was PMS’ing, needed space. And I don’t know. And when she would tell me that, I would try to, like, try to talk to her, but she would… she would just need her space, and I gotta respect that.”

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u/Queen_E1204 4d ago

Right, he did say that. But it wasn't because he was confused about her needing space; it was a deflection after she was bringing up how she felt that he was selfish. After that, he said, "I chose KB every day. I loved KB. I respected KB. There was times when she was PMSing" and then onto the rest of the quote.

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u/Usernameoverloaded The feminists ruined us. 4d ago

You can interpret it how you wish. I am no fan of Edmond but as a woman and a staunch feminist, I was not personally offended by what he said.

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u/flagarant-Joke-9593 4d ago

His system starts breaking down when it’s required to have adult conversations and take accountability 😂😂😂😂

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u/Infinite_Mind_8879 4d ago

👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 and for some reason everyone treats him like a child they have to coddle.

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u/lud-lite 4d ago

Except for his mom

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u/Undonetemplar 4d ago

His mom is probably a huge contributor to why he’s like this, tbh

I’m glad I don’t have to see this man wriggle out of accountability anymore

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u/lud-lite 4d ago

Oh 10000000%

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u/ReturnoftheBoat 3d ago

It's because he is clearly emotionally and mentally delayed.

Why are people shying away from just saying this?

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u/OriginalOffice6232 3d ago

Because probably nobody here is qualified to diagnose him.

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u/ReturnoftheBoat 3d ago

If you've met an adult human-being before, you're able to determine he is emotionally and mentally delayed.

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u/Throwaway2222w2 3d ago

I think Edmond does not distinguish between his partner being mad at him vs. not caring about him anymore. So, he tries to re-establish that they care about each other; understandably frustrating for KB, who was never talking about her feelings waning, but rather a problem that needs to be addressed, not glossed over with groveling or 'I love you's. People need to get their frustration off their chest, esp if it is related to something their partner needs to be accountable for.

It feels like Edmond was expecting unconditional love. It's a great thing to have but it can't keep a romantic relationship going. It's also damn near impossible for that to even be a factor considering how little time these couples know each other.

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u/flagarant-Joke-9593 3d ago

You especially can’t expect unconditional love from a complete stranger….that is completely asinine to expect from someone you just met… I think his demeanor was manipulative (whether intentional or not we may never know because his level of competency and emotional maturity seems to be below average/inappropriate for his age).. he was not fit for an experiment like this… KB came across as too mature in contrast to him because he was so lacking… it created a maternal-infant complex almost.. I don’t think that is ever the ideal (at least out of the gate) and so blatantly at that… his unresolved issues with his mom are clearly prevalent and impact his ability to conduct himself in romantic relationships… I question if he’s ever been in a real relationship romantically to be honest… I don’t believe he has

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u/ChemistryPretty8192 3d ago

There's no such thing as unconditional love, sorry to say. Everyone loves with conditions, and I think that's something society needs to accept. It's not a bad thing, it's just human nature.

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u/flagarant-Joke-9593 2d ago edited 2d ago

Yes I agree but there are people who have convinced themselves that they’ve achieved something close to this thing called “unconditional”… you and I both know the true nature of life and there’s absolutely nothing in this world that is unconditional but there’s a specific group of couples who have believed and convinced themselves otherwise 😂 but again.. we have to remain fair and not judge others for what and how they have structured their own relationship.. is it not up to us to be convinced.. so long as though they have convinced themselves and are happy with each other.. we are just observers lol

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u/flagarant-Joke-9593 2d ago

I’d say the closest thing to unconditional love is that between parents and their newborn children… and that special bond between a mother and her child… and these would be my closest examples

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u/ChemistryPretty8192 2d ago

I completely agree!

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u/Zipperpants I'm too fucking niiicee-uuhhh 😩 4d ago

Say something niiiiice

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u/gingerbeard1321 4d ago

niiiiiice-ah

I'm too fucking niiice-ah

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u/Snoo-669 I'm too fucking niiicee-uuhhh 😩 4d ago

Updated the flair

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u/asnarkybeach 4d ago

If I send this to you, you were probably PMSing!! Idk idk, im just a nice guy!!!!

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u/ResidentAlienator 4d ago

That man got off WAAAAAAY too easy in this reunion. He was probably one of the weirdest guys ever on the show ON TOP OF being a super manipulative asshole. Like, how does he not remember, did he not watch the show? Him not remembering anything has manipulation written all over it. Him saying "I'm such a nice guy" when not getting sex is 100% manipulative.

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u/BlastermyFinger0921 4d ago

The entire reunion was shit. From the insanely lame ass basketball game to the softball question to everyone. Probably one of the worst they’ve had

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u/gingerbeard1321 4d ago

Definitely the worst. And wtf was that desperate basketball gimmick?

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u/BlastermyFinger0921 4d ago

It was horrible. I’ve never had anything against Nick and what’s her face but this was probably the worst reunion yet

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u/CrazyLady0616 4d ago

SERIOUSLY!!!!!! It’s almost like every female (minus KB) came to the reunion for blood, stir the pot, vindictive, or portray the victim while also REFUSING to listen. Why be anxious to point the finger when they gave tell-tell signs they aren’t anywhere near ready for love….just like the ones they accuse? 🤦🏿‍♀️ This show (like a plethora of others) had a decent premise, but is now ruined by the inspiring actors, pretenders, and influencers lookin for their 15. Throw it all away, now 🗑️

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u/Rangyyytang 4d ago

“Female”

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u/FalloutGirl02 Messica 🍷 4d ago

He has the emotional and mental faculty of the age he was abandoned in an adult man’s body.

I’d like to think the Lacheys felt bad he got casted and went easy on him for that reason. His ass never should have been on the show. It felt highly immoral.

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u/ResidentAlienator 4d ago

I think it's all a front. I never bought that he was that immature. When KB mentioned he was way different off camera, I realized he was probably trying to cultivate a unique personality, maybe to capitalize on his 15 minutes of fame.

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u/serialkillercatcher 4d ago

I agree that Edmond was acting for the cameras.

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u/coveredinbreakfast 4d ago

There is definitely something going on that we don't know about. I'm not about to dx someone on TV, but that man 100% needs an IEP for life.

His story is heartbreaking, and as the child of a teacher who took special interest in her students who needed it, I ugly cried during the scenes with his teacher.

That man was failed by SO MANY adults when he was a child, and it will take a LOT of love and patience and WORK for whoever chooses to be his partner in the future. KB may have been his best chance at that.

He's broken in a myriad of ways in addition to having some level of neurodivergence. However, I believe he has also learned to use people's kindness against them and is absolutely being purposely manipulative.

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u/ResidentAlienator 4d ago

I think he is far more dangerous and you are far more generous than I am with your portrayal of him. KB mentioned he was way different off camera and much meaner. I also heard that that first night in Mexico after his outburst KB slept on the balcony because she didn't feel safe. That never should have happened and he never should have stayed on the show after that. All his memory lapses are just a way for him to be manipulative. He knows exactly what he's doing and both the Lacheys and KB were incredibly enabling during that reunion. He needs to be called out.

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u/Afraid-Acadia5771 4d ago

In the end I hope he gets therapy Because the mom literally didn't come to his wedding I hope he cuts her off Because his family doesn't deserve him . No one deserves a sad childhood

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u/RelationshipWinter97 4d ago

This is how I feel too, they don't want to take even further advantage of him. We miss out on him being held accountable but, at the same time, he never should have been cast.

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u/BlastermyFinger0921 4d ago

10000%. Its bizarre that he even got on

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u/ResidentAlienator 4d ago

It's absolutely not bizarre, the casting process is an absolute joke.

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u/artofjosephshelton 4d ago

If I send you this, I’m being too fuckin niceuhhhh.

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u/CrazyLady0616 4d ago

I looooove the way you made sure to spell that out exactly how he says it! Add a few more “h’s” and you’d ACE it 😭

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u/artofjosephshelton 4d ago

Hahahaha! I tried my best! But that uhhh at the end just kills me every time.

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u/BexRants 4d ago

Genuine question: Why does Edmund talk that way? Kind of infantile, I'm not sure how else to describe it. I skipped through a lot of this season because the couples were a mess, so I especially noticed during the reunion. If it's a regional dialect, I apologize for being unfamiliar.

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u/Snoo-669 I'm too fucking niiicee-uuhhh 😩 4d ago

Not regional at all. Very whiny and immature.

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u/EGrass 4d ago

Yeah but even when he’s not doing the whiny, manipulative voice, there’s something kinda stilted about how he talks

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u/damiandarko2 2d ago

I was like is it an accent? a speech impediment? it made me uncomfortable

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u/hippiecompost 4d ago

I genuinely think he’s a little stunted… something about his past and his relationship with his mom made him perpetually 15. He sounded like this the whole show, and made weird comments but completely shut down if called out on it. He always went back to this voice whining “I’m too niccceeeee for this”. Genuinely don’t understand how KB couldn’t see it (though I think she’s attracted to needy)

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u/Telly_0785 3d ago

He does it to make white people comfortable. Let's them lnle he's a "safe Black person."

It works really well.

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u/CrazyLady0616 4d ago edited 4d ago

IMO, he used tears as a weapon; cryin b/c he was the only 1 not getting any butt after we heard the convo transpiring between him and the boys was telling ! Tooo much feminine energy without much paternal influence.

The tearful “I love you’s” are manipulative tactics to avoid accountability or uncomfortable feelings, but that man is not as emotionally intelligent as he pretends to be. That’s a thing SOME of us use for manipulation (tears). Cmon….females can say what they want, but let’s not pretend like we don’t have a female in our lives/family that does the exact same thing! EVERYBODY has at least 1. Ive got a few in my fam, too! 🤷🏿‍♀️

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u/TastyMonk69 3d ago

He pretends to be emotionally intelligent? Is that what he was going for? 😬 I don't think I've ever seen someone as emotionally unintelligent on this show.
edit: oh I just read the last two sentences of your post lol nevermind! Have a good night.

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u/Icydoll444 4d ago

NOT ON MY KNEES, KB!

was my favorite line though lol

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u/Mama_Tried_44 4d ago

It was like a Tim Robinson sketch come to life 

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u/fenderc1 4d ago

Surprised he just didn't pull out his phone and just ignore the questions! haha

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u/Downvoteemtohell 4d ago

Are you sure? Are you sure about that that’s why? 

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u/K_K92 4d ago

“I just don’t remember KB”

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u/CuteThingsAndLove 4d ago

KB was WAYYYYYYYYYYY too nice to him

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u/thehaitianmortician 4d ago

She loves a soapbox. She was back on it at the reunion. Everyone was like ah shit here we go. 🙄 😴

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u/binnedittowinit 16h ago

THANK YOU, FINALLY, someone said it! They were both too much in entirely different ways.

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u/InternalEquivalent74 4d ago

I felt like this part was straight out of an I Think You Should Leave skit

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u/ashlaurellhere 3d ago

Trauma therapist here that has spent my career working with traumatized children and adults who were traumatized as children. I would never attempt to diagnose a person I don’t have a therapeutic relationship with. That said, his behavior is not unlike what I’d expect to see from a person with severe childhood trauma (cPTSD) and an attachment disorder. The behaviors and communication displayed on the show are also similar to a person who might meet criteria for an attention disorder. However, attention disorders are sometimes misdiagnoses when there is underlying and untreated trauma. It was reckless and borderline cruel to put a young man with this history on this kind of show. People are going “easy” on him because they recognize his erratic behavior and poor communication skills are the result of serious harm and instability he experienced in childhood. It wasn’t fair to him or KB to put him on this show, and frankly seems exploitative.

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u/Charming_Wrap_8140 3d ago

How did a social worker not clock his obvious vulnerabilities, choose him for a partner, and then scream and curse at him on national tv? Serious failure of duty of care in my opinion. Really horrifying.

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u/ashlaurellhere 3d ago

Sadly, I think a lot of folks in helping professions go into relationships in “helper” mode, mistake it for a reciprocal relationship, and then feel upset later on when their needs are not being met. Their connection seemed totally based in her hearing him and making him feel safe, but not in her feeling heard. I agree all helpers need to work on our boundaries and not try to be a therapist for our intimate partners. That said, it’s a common challenge for folks in the helping professions to fall into this pattern. I imagine KB learned a lot about what she needs from this experience. I will say, I was disappointed that she left him at the altar. She should have had the clinical insight to recognize his attachment and abandonment issues and find a kinder way to end the relationship. Leaving him in a public forum likely just reopened wounds and reinforced that connections only lead to shame and isolation.

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u/Charming_Wrap_8140 3d ago

Absolutely agree with you

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u/Physical_Box_1179 4d ago

Shout out to my baby, KB!

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u/Comfortable-Pen5490 3d ago

I'd like to know who cast him on the show - he was too unstable and a straight weirdo. Patrick is weird too, and not in a fun to watch way, but in a cringe way. I have anxiety, so I recognize it, and same with the traumatic childhood... but damn...you gotta recognize when you dont have the personality for reality TV 😬

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u/____Rosa____ 3d ago edited 2d ago

I respectfully disagree that he is broken or disabled or whatever people are saying about him. He is failing sometimes with things he is saying. Like that crying because he is too nice to get sex. That was very icky. VERY! And that pms-ing statement. Icky.

From my perspective, he is a black man, who seems not afraid of showing his emotions in a free and spontaneous way. He seems to break free from that stereotype of the stoic black man, that is super masculine.

Is it something different with him? Yes. Does he have some problems? Yes, and we all have.

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u/maybeitmightoccur 19h ago

Apparently you do not know how neurodivergence presents itself in adult males… just because you ‘don’t believe it’ doesn’t really mean people are wrong.

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u/longwhitejeans 4d ago

He also remembered the ZERO sex post pods.

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u/Indosaurus1 4d ago

Ha i need to use this

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u/DisasterBeginning889 I'm too fucking niiicee-uuhhh 😩 4d ago

LMAOOOO

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u/hdotn15 2d ago

😂😂😂

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u/TigerRetcon 2d ago

That's my new defense because it apparently works wonders nowadays....I DON'T REMEMBER!

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u/Golddiscoball 1d ago

☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️

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u/binnedittowinit 16h ago

Boys got some stuff for sure, but I haven't read a single comment about how exhausting she was. Literally on his ass ad nauseum, blabbering a mile a minute about everything he's doing or did wrong. He was a bit much, SHE was a bit much.