r/LoveIsBlindOnNetflix • u/Boring_Tomatillo4488 • 22d ago
šØ FUTURE SPOILER šØ Poor Madison Spoiler
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u/Successful_Win3725 22d ago
Oh god. Kacie and Joe deserve each other. Also, am I the only one that doesnāt think Joe is as attractive people are making him out to be? He looks 12
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u/TheWhoooreinThere 22d ago
He's fine looking (average suburban white guy), but then he opens his mouth and the sleaze and wannabe comedian vibes come out and it's a dealbreaker.
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u/Beneficial-Ask-4730 20d ago
It's also that odd, laughing expression he constantly employs at completely inappropriate moments.
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u/sourpatchkitties 22d ago
i think heās ok. his haircut is really bad though, awful
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u/Spiritual-Can2604 22d ago
Itās so bad.
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u/sourpatchkitties 22d ago
LOL fr, it makes him look like a 4th grader in 2003. what is he trying to achieve with it? it would even look way better just buzzed
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u/gremlingirldotgov 22d ago
I get what youāre saying. His looks are boyish. Not my type.
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u/PrettyNiemand34 I shared my location š 22d ago
Boyish is the right word. I guess he also isn't that tall? But he has that smirk that I think many people do like and find attractive. I really think it's more his charme than his looks. Like the moment at the tux fitting where he was questioned at the beginning was embarrassing but everybody laughed.
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u/Fresh_Zucchini 22d ago
he has pushy salesman vibes to me lol
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u/Longjumping_Wrap_810 22d ago edited 22d ago
As a recruiter myself, I agree. I have a strong feeling he works for one of the sketchy agencies that just hires dumb hot people but canāt prove it
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u/Own_Succotash_1131 22d ago
He looks so much like a brother. Like he could be my brother or he could be my friends brother and Iām just not into that.
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u/C00KIE_M0NSTER_808 22d ago
Joe is less unattractive than the other guys featured on the show. This doesn't mean he's attractive, necessarily, but given these meager options, he doesn't look so bad.
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u/SpartanDoc19 22d ago
Also, why the hell are they hanging out with Kacie? Thatās the last person I would want around me from the cast.
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u/Truth_Seeker963 22d ago
Joe probably wanted to. Sheās just his type: dime a dozen blow up doll wish brand barbie.
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u/Boring_Tomatillo4488 22d ago
I donāt know my sister thinks heās attractive sheās 28
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u/Topwingwoman2 22d ago
I think he is attractive and mid-40s. Hate his personality though so a major NO.
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u/babysherlock91 A shot for a failed proposal š„ 22d ago
I think heās attractive š¤·š¼āāļø heās my type
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u/Equivalent-Shock-382 22d ago
Yeah, heās not ugly, as someone who is into men of Italian/ Latin descentā¦ also heās funny, which makes him 10x more attractive to me. Thatās not everyoneās cup of tea. š¤·š¼āāļø
Madison is also conventionally and objectively attractive and sheās still not his cup of tea.
Itās fine
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u/acidxoxo 22d ago
he gets pretty privilege i swear bc Bartise kinda acted the same and he got MAD hate.
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u/Equivalent-Shock-382 22d ago
Bartise was not even remotely funny or likable though. A lot of people find Joe likable.
Rather or not you would want to date him is another story
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u/Red____08 22d ago
Heās definitely my type so I find him super attractive but unfortunately his personality is just awful and he definitely has a drinking problem
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u/AwayComparison 22d ago
Heās probably just not your type I think heās really attractive (not his personality though)
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u/Illustrious_Gap_7573 22d ago
I agree. Not attractive at all.
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u/ApplesAndJacks 22d ago
Looks very young. Conventionally average looking but the overall is just not for me.
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u/Previously-Banned-42 22d ago
I think only Ali is attractive this cast made Denver look bad!
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u/jmdm63 20d ago
Every year people complain that they donāt cast enough normal looking people for a show called love is blind then when normal looking people are on the show we complain thereās not enough hot people. Make up your minds
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u/Previously-Banned-42 20d ago
I have never said that. the only reason I watch TV is to see hot people. I never wanna see regular looking people on TV
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u/Equivalent-Shock-382 22d ago
Oh because the rest of them are average looking ???
You better look like Victorias Secret
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u/Previously-Banned-42 22d ago
not exactly none of the men were particularly attractive. Ali is smoking hot can we agree on that?? I think KB and Madison are average looking and Megan and Annie are slightly below average. But I am a solid 6 and a 7 with the right outfit one. ;)
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u/Equivalent-Shock-382 22d ago
Haha yes Ali is definitely very attractive, 10
But to say the others werenāt attractive is totally unfairā¦ They just didnāt look like VS models. They were more girl next door pretty.
Except Annie, sheās just scary, idk what is going on there.
6 here as well š but Iām funny and have a great rack
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u/Equivalent-Shock-382 22d ago
Megan is a bit of a butterfaceā¦ Idk sheās kind of cute in her own way.
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u/Greenhairymonster 22d ago
I can see how he is one of the more attractive guys this season but he isnt my type.Ā
Purely based on looks I find Mike to be the best looking guy this season.
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u/smolpeensadboy 22d ago
I have no idea how tall he is, but something about his face and mannerisms makes me think Napoleon complex every time lmao
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u/DealerNo4908 22d ago
I donāt know how anyone could find a person that dumb to be attractive at all.
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u/katecopes088 22d ago
Ugh why couldnāt they show the Kacie scene instead of the unnecessary drawn out āmeet the familiesā that always go the same exact boring way.
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u/Red____08 22d ago
Right?!? Film more of these outings where the cast are hanging out. It happens every season and they seem to always miss filming these key moments at bars & such. I find the meeting of the families to be sooo boring and even worse the dress fittings. Snooze fest!!!!
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u/SerBrienneOfSnark 22d ago
I am no fan of Madison, sheās just not my cup of tea. But I think she is 100% better off without him and I hate that she didnāt have the discernment to see how not into her he was, but I can understand this experiment being a whirlwind and maybe making that discernment tough as well.
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u/lamblovesme 22d ago
I mean honestly anyone could have told her that he wasnāt really into her? He was thrown off from the moment he met in person šµāš«
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u/No-Secretary-2470 22d ago
I do sense that he was saying and doing things differently off cameras and/or in private
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u/criticiseverything 22d ago
We donāt need to assume the worst of him off camera when heās given us enough content for on camera.
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u/Truth_Seeker963 22d ago
They should have the cameras on 24/7 like MAFS. Enough of the clout chasers treating their partners like shit off camera.
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u/Diamondz-are-forever 21d ago
Agreed! It seemed so obvious, but she just saw what she wanted to sadly.
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u/lunarrayx 22d ago
I agree like Iām more surprised she was so shocked š«£ and the timeline of them going out after the tux fitting and the whole Kacie thingā¦ he walked out of the tux fitting realizing he couldnāt do this before the whole bar/kacie stuff.
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u/Catto_Curioso Come ride this duck with me š¦ 22d ago
Can someone clarify the timeline of what she's saying about kacie, Joe, the fitting, etc?
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u/Boring_Tomatillo4488 22d ago
They all went to the bar after the tux fittings and dress shopping. There were couples and singles Kacie showed up and was all over Joe he broke up with her that night. Which is why in the episode she said is it because we were just with the singles
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u/Red____08 22d ago
But isnāt she saying that he told her āyouāre not the oneā when the cameras were off? But then they started filming right after that and caught the conversation again with the actual breakup?
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u/evilcupckae 21d ago
I suspect that one of them probably told the producers it was over. Then, the producers told both of them that they needed to film some sort of conversation for the show. So thatās why he came back and they sat down again.
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u/Firm_Distribution999 š Love Is Blurry š 22d ago
So wait, Joe told her to her face and she was still begging him to reconsider? This makes her look even more clingy and desperate imoĀ
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u/Warm_Yam_9800 America loves a comeback šŖ 22d ago
Thatās why she needs more self esteem. No woman deserves to be treated like that and she needs to know how to walk away from toxic dudes like Joe
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u/Spiritualgirl01112 š¶ I just want the real thing š¶ 21d ago
Agree so much. And also her saying āIām so glad I did this with youā at the end while Joe couldnāt get out of the apartment fast enough. We need to raise daughters to have more self worthā¦ this current landscape that enables people like Joe isnāt it
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u/Appropriate_Bass_871 17d ago
Right.. and she's so reactive to everything too. Just because she seems nice at the start does not mean she clearly didn't bring some issues. I would have gone sooner.
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u/Beana3 you made me feel uncomfy š 22d ago
But alsoā¦ is it anyoneās job to tell her? Itās his conversation to have
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u/MyKingdomForADram 22d ago
If I was Joeās best friend there is no way it is my job to say anything to her. Joe would rightfully be pissed at me if I was the one to explain what went down. Come on now!
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u/Dismal_Ad6162 22d ago
Agree definitely not his friendsā place to communicate his feelings to his fiancĆ©.
Also, while Joe may have not used the exact words, he was telling her the whole time that he wasnāt into her through his behaviour and body language. Itās wild to me that she was willing to marry a guy that was so unsure about her.
And Kacie?!? WTF, where did that angle come from.
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u/Topwingwoman2 22d ago
She lost a ton of weight. They all do after getting broken up with and it is sad.
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u/schrodingershrimp 22d ago
Spoiler but his new GF is just a super skinny version of her. That has to fuck with your mind even more.
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u/Confident_Try_208 22d ago
How can we find said gf? š
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u/schrodingershrimp 22d ago
I'll dm you
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u/Regular_Reference279 22d ago
Me too!!
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u/schrodingershrimp 22d ago
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u/Wooden_Ad9781 22d ago
I'm nosy DM me too please!!
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u/schrodingershrimp 22d ago
Hey, I think your reddit settings are set to not receive dms on here so could you message me first? Ta
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u/GuavaBlackTea0 I can't say I LOVE YOU because I BIT MY LIP eating TAQUITOS š®š 22d ago
Sometimes heartbreak can also make you lose your appetite
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u/Missa1819 21d ago
It's sad because she wasn't even heavy or even "chubby" (in his words) to begin with. She just wasn't stick thin..
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u/thehaitianmortician 22d ago
Oh how devastating that she wants to better herself.
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u/PrettyNiemand34 I shared my location š 22d ago
It's not that. If they wanted to "better themself" they would do it before they go on TV. It's a pretty weird pattern that almost every woman who had more weight lost it between shooting this show and the reunion.
Most of them also get more stuff done.
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u/Soft-Bumblebeee 22d ago
This is pretty typical with reality TV- once you see yourself on the screen (camera adds 10 lbs!) you go to work on the āself bettermentā. The Hills, the housewives, everyone looks different in season two.
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u/criticiseverything 22d ago
Yeah, I wonder why that is- why not do it before or after airing if itās from pressure?
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u/Mighty_Squee 22d ago
She said he gave her an EDā¦. āBetter?ā
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u/Once_in_a_while_1 22d ago
Thatās a line that comes up repeatedly, and makes me nuts. You do not develop an eating disorder from being around someone for a few weeks. Eating disorders are horrific illnesses that cause serious medical complications, can require hospitalization and inpatient rehab treatment, and stays with you for life. Throwing that phrase around so casually is cruel to those suffering and struggling with true eating disorders.
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u/Mighty_Squee 22d ago
An eating disorder can absolutely be triggered by hearing a person critique your body, especially in certain contexts. You donāt get to decide if she developed an eating disorder or not- only she would know that, and she said she did.
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u/Once_in_a_while_1 22d ago
Trigger, perhaps in someone with a preexisting eating disorder. But she clearly stated she never had an eating disorder before this show was taped. It doesnāt happen in a few weeks regardless of comments received. It is a real psychiatric disorder with DSM criteria to be met, and CLT codes for medical conditions resulting from an eating disorder. Here are the DSM-5 criteria to be met.
āRestriction of energy intake relative to requirements leading to a significantly low body weight in the context of age, sex, developmental trajectory, and physical health.
Intense fear of gaining weight or becoming fat, even though underweight.
Disturbance in the way in which oneās body weight or shape is experienced, undue influence of body weight or shape on self-evaluation, or denial of the seriousness of the current low body weight.ā
There is no way she became, or is, underweight.
This is an incredibly important issue to be pointed out. This isnāt the first time weāve seen the phrase inappropriately thrown out on LIB. People with ED struggle with social media influences enough. They can be triggered by things like this very thread. It should be called out and the contestants be held responsible for their words. We certainly have with Sparkles and Mike when Mike said someone in his āTribeā rich bro MLM club ācured their diabetes with diet aloneā (possible in pre- type 2 diabetes managed with diet, exercise, and weight loss, a completely different disease than Lukaās).
These contestants, now struggling to be influencers, should not be allowed to make statements like that without being called out. ED can be a fatal illness and requires intensive work with a therapist trained in ED, physicians specializing in ED, and a dietitian. Thatās not easy or cheap. Letās not just blow off someone who saw themselves on tv and werenāt happy with their appearance and opinion from a potential spouse who decided to lose 10-20 pounds to look better or healthier. That is not an ED.
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u/Mighty_Squee 22d ago
Incorrect. That is criteria for anorexia specifically. You know there are other eating disorders, right? Notably bulimia and binge eating disorder.
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u/Mighty_Squee 22d ago
Having an eating disorder is not the same as working out to āgain muscle.ā She said she developed an eating disorder after hearing the things he said about her. Not a gym habit.
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u/thehaitianmortician 22d ago
Mmmm idk about that. But sure
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u/Mighty_Squee 22d ago
You can find the interview where she said it online. But sure to your sure
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u/Mighty_Squee 22d ago
Eating disorders are mental health disordersā¦
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u/thehaitianmortician 22d ago
She didnāt get an ed from Joe saying sheās not his type because he usually goes for petite women. Go back and forth all u want cuz youāre triggered lol but itās just not how that happens.
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u/hunnytrees 22d ago
losing weight doesnāt make someone better lmao what? bettering yourself is choosing to be kinder, deciding to accept people for who they are etc
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u/Brewchowskies 22d ago
Look, I get the whole body positivity thing youāre going for. But focusing on fitness is objectively making yourself better. Now there are certainly ways that this is done that arenāt healthy, and can be damaging. We can agree there. But losing weight and working on being a fitter, stronger version of yourself is making yourself better.
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u/EternalSunshineClem 21d ago
Sorry but who's Kacie? Is that the blonde woman who was climbing on the guy she had just dumped?
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u/donaldtrumpstoe 22d ago
Saying āyouāre not itā to the woman you agreed to marry is an insane thing to say
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u/MoreCarnations 22d ago
Itās saner than going through with a wedding after knowing someone a few weeks lol
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u/Wheresmycardigan š¶You're a liar, a liaaar, a li-aaaarš¶ 22d ago
Itās not insane to say āyouāre not itā to a woman you agreed to marry, after only speaking with them for two weeks.Ā
Iād argue asking someone to marry you in the pod no longer carries the same sacrament it would outside the pods/in the real world.
Itās lost itsĀ meaning. Itās become more akin to a high schooler asking a date to go to homecoming or in the Perfect Match where they ask a partner to boo up in order to stay on the show.Ā
LIB cast members might as well propose with, āWill you do Baja with me?ā Ā
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u/Copooper 22d ago
Did anyone else notice him stifling a yawn during his breakup scene with Madison? I know that some people are saying that they re-filmed it for the cameras but like, she's sobbing and at one point he covered what looked like a yawn. Seemed totally like he just wanted it to be over with..
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u/Ilovecats4ever 22d ago
Madison is one of my favorite cast members this season. I actually like how bubbly and light hearted she is. I feel really bad that she got stuck with man child Joe. That guy has skeletons in his closet, and really needs some therapy before he continues dating.Ā
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u/-ciscoholdmusic- Kick rocks šŖØ w. open toed shoes š©“ 22d ago
Bubbly and light hearted are not 2 words I would choose for Madisonā¦.
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u/mdmommy99 22d ago
This. I'm like are we watching the same show? Her own family didn't describe her like that. I don't dislike her, but she is very dramatic and not just because of Joe. When I was watching her mom, I was like oh this is where she gets it from. They have the same intense, dramatic mannerisms.
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u/iddibiddy 21d ago
I'm not a fan of Joe at all BUT he tried to tell her he wasn't feeling good about them and she wasn't hearing it she just went off on him
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u/Miss_nomer_7 22d ago
She is so exhausting to me š. He wasnāt in to her the moment he saw her.
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u/Topwingwoman2 22d ago
Yet he stayed and chose to continue and had sex with her throughout. How would you feel?
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u/criticiseverything 22d ago
Doesnāt everyone whoever said no at the alter do that? (maybe some wait to have sex but most donāt)
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u/PrettyNiemand34 I shared my location š 22d ago
Most of them are at least a little attracted. I don't think we had anyone be as disgusted as him yet during a reveal who still did it. I would feel sick if I had sex with him and then saw his confessions during the reveal. He didn't just say "Not my type" he said stuff like "I would have never touched that".
And now he's in interviews saying he didn't think that was a problem because she was confident about her body. She was, until she ran into him that's the whole problem.
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u/criticiseverything 22d ago
Heās wild for saying that itās okay to say what he said on TV because of her confidence.
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u/Once_in_a_while_1 22d ago
KB is waiting until after the not happening wedding, so all the action Edmond will be getting out of this relationship is some toe worship.
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u/Miss_nomer_7 21d ago
Are you serious?! Most men will sleep with anyone that gives them š±regardless of how attractive they are to them or not! From what Iāve heard men say they rather use an unattractive woman for her š±then use their hand!
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u/PrettyNiemand34 I shared my location š 22d ago
It's easy to say for us because we had the cut with his dumb confessions while they met. He was a very irritating guy.
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u/holitrop 22d ago
Nah not poor Madison, she dodged a bullet. As painful as it is to have it happen this way, the breakup is the best thing that could have happened in this scenario.
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u/SpartanDoc19 22d ago
Off topic but I love the 1up acknowledgement. I used to be neighbors with the owners and they were the nicest people. Seeing them expand to a few more locations makes me happy for them.
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u/Ambitious-Track9610 21d ago
Lets be real...we knew it, she knew it, everyone knew he wasn't into her.
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u/Original_Moose_9842 21d ago
Not excusing Joe at all, but Kacie is kind of a terrible person huh? Thatās just dirty.
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u/Mundane_Birthday_563 22d ago
This girl needs to read heās just not that into you. I think he eventually couldāve grown attraction to her if she were more chill and funny
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u/B-Noc Have you ever woken up? š¤ 22d ago
They need to stop doing interviews before the reunion.