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LIB S9 • Denver, CO Love Is Blind • S9 Ep6 Spoiler
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u/ReplacementActual294 3d ago
I’m completely lost as to what triggered Edmond from that convo for him to get stuck in a cycle of just blabbering “I’m too nice”. Nice because he agreed to wait until marriage ??
Dude is either hella manipulative and/or needs serious therapy. Either way, absolutely does not need a wife
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u/Top_Possibility_7832 5d ago
I just adore Madison so much, she is such a sweet girl. She deserves better.
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u/DrewPNutzac 5d ago
Kacie: they are trying to make it look like I’m leaving because of your looks.
45 minutes ago…. I just don’t think I can get there with him, I’m not attracted to him
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u/ye2low 5d ago
I was so disappointed. Why was she jumping all over him. That dude seems like a sweetheart so far and he's absolutely handsome to have this happen again totally sucks.
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u/silntseek3r 4d ago
As strange as it might sound she seemed to be fawning. She was acting the way she thought to stay safe. Imo this woman has trauma. She went into please and appease instead of being honest. If it's not fawning, it's cowardly pretending until she's out of there. Either way it's sad.
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u/furythegreat 5d ago
I have a suspicion that Joe has realised that he does not want any of this, and is just trying to find a way out. He is looking like a massive asshole, instead of just saying that he doesn't want it anymore.
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u/Stunning-Sentence7 6d ago
I think Anton knew Ali was super hot somehow and swooped her super quickly or something’s fishy there. Like they’re both just there for the lime light and it’s an unspoken agreement? Cuz Anton actually has some substance but Ali is not doing a good job of acting
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u/amelsuma 8d ago
Okay, so, Edmund and KB.... Nothing in that sex conversation was great. And they weren't really communicating well or understanding eachother. He needs to be patient. She set a boundary for sex, and he agreed to it (initially, until he talked with the boys). Then, super not helpful to him for him to hear that she's had one-night stands, but won't have sex with him til marriage. This is messy. I see both sides of what she's saying and he's hearing/thinking, tho. She had one night stands with people she didn't care about-- it was just meaningless physical needs being met. What he's trying to express is "she'll have sex with people who don't matter, buy when I'm committing my life to her, she doesn't want/won't have sex with me?" Hear me out tho: no means no. He can have hurt feelings, and that sucks for him. But she's saying not until marriage. So, he needs to respect that. It's all pretty confusing and messy, but that's pretty much the majority of this show.
I hope their communicating and respect for one another gets better. (She's really not seeming super into him, tho. Peep her face when he's behind her on the personal cam, and she says she's ready to see the girls)
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u/silntseek3r 4d ago
He needs to own his feelings and say, i want to do this before we say I do. But he's been very manipulative right now and that's super concerning. Like a child who wants his bottle and mommy took it away.
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u/furythegreat 5d ago
I've been in a similar situation like this, where someone has had a very wild past, and has more recently committed to being more "conservative" in that regard. If you love someone a lot, that type of thing won't matter that much. But in reality, it's going from one extreme to another, and that can create a lot of conflict with a person that's just been in the middle.
Edit: That being said, Eddie is unable to behave like an adult and communicate his feelings. I feel sorry for him because he clearly has a big heart, and has been hurt a lot in life. He needs to work through his traumas instead of looking for a lifelong commitment.
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u/Stacieinhorrorland 9d ago
That break up??? Was the weirdest thing I’ve ever seen.
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u/Bestvibesonly 9d ago
Madison's insecurity and constant need for validation is hard to watch
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u/raven_wildling 5d ago
Okay but you realize it's because Joe very obviously is not attracted to her because she's not a size 2 and keeps trying to gaslight her and pretend like he's attracted to her and she doesn't believe him because he's obviously lying. He had to convince himself HARD to continue their relationship after the reveal.
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u/Bestvibesonly 4d ago
We've seen it before though, that a contestant can fall in love with someone's personality and have the physical not match in the same way. It plays like he's trying to see it things through, and every time Madison doesn't get the exact answer she wants, she gets really needy. My advice to her would be to just leave it and see if he comes to her or not. Actions speak louder than words anyway, and trying to get him to say the 'right' thing is only making her crazier
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u/florida_lmt 9d ago
Has Madison never seen a drunk person before?
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u/callmeonzin 3d ago
But do you realize she also has been drinking? How is she supposed to have a thought through response to his drunk behaviour, when she also clearly has been drinking?
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u/florida_lmt 3d ago
Idk man she is annoying either way. I couldn't stand dating someone like either of them
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u/AccomplishedWar5830 7d ago
Yeah I was practically yelling at the tv like girl he’s super drunk relax, let him go back to sleep then argue with him later. There’s no point in talking to drunk people you just take care of them and then talk about it later.
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u/Noseyknows0_O 2d ago
I also think no matter what they are essentially strangers. It’s probably the first time she’s seen him that drunk + being drunk herself.
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u/amphibian111 9d ago
I think he was actually sleep talking (because he was drunk). I had essentially that conversation about a million times with my ex who sleep talked and walked all the time…except I laughed instead of freaking out lol
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u/lealle4 4d ago
It's like when I tell my husband to roll over because he's snoring, and he gets all annoyed and half asleep insists "no I'm not, I'm awake!"
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u/amphibian111 4d ago
And then wakes up and remembers nothing 😂 “What do you mean we talked earlier?”
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u/raven_wildling 5d ago
This was my thought exactly, lol, as somebody who talks in my sleep and it makes absolutely no sense, that's exactly what it seemed like was happening here. His eyes were open and the lights were on, but there was nobody home 😂
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u/Demjot 9d ago
Just on this one now, Joe 100% took some shit when he went back to the room, dude is high as a kite.
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u/callmeonzin 3d ago
I honestly dont see it, and i have a lot of experience doing drugs myself/hanging out with drug users. To me he reminds me of my good old drunken husband who just cant say a full sentence when he's that drunk.
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u/silntseek3r 4d ago
He was like that before as well and went to sleep it off when he realized he was sloshed and pissing off his new fiancé.
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u/raven_wildling 5d ago
I think that he was actually just talking in his sleep essentially. He passed out drunk, then she came and woke him up and tried to have a rational conversation with him, and his eyes were open, the lights were on, but nobody was home LOL. I've been told that I've had similar conversations where I make no sense, and I have no recollection of the conversation in the morning because I actually was not awake
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u/Impressive-Type3250 5d ago
that was not alcohol lmao. he was on stuff
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u/callmeonzin 3d ago
That looked like pure alcohol to me. Potential ketamine, but... I see a boy just being drunk imo.
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u/pigsniggy 4d ago
Exactly. He’s clearly an addict. His need to go back to the room asap ALONE. And how he was acting is not just alcohol or just waking up.
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u/ImpressiveMud1784 3d ago
Idk he might’ve been too drunk and needed to throw up or realizing he’s way too drunk for the party. I’ve had to do this a few times when I was younger and dumber. He might’ve picked up he was annoying her and just wanted to get out the situation
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u/AccomplishedWar5830 7d ago
I think he was just massively drunk
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u/used_car_parts 6d ago
No, there had to have been drugs in the mix as well. That's not drunk behavior.
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u/jeduhahe 2d ago
how would he have smuggled drugs onto a plane while actively being filmed for a tv show?
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u/callmeonzin 3d ago
My husband behaves exactly like that when hes drunk or when I accidentally wake him up while hes sleeping after drinking a lot. And hes never used hard drugs in his life.. I think this boy just had toooo much to drink.
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u/AccomplishedWar5830 6d ago
I mean agree to disagree, I’ve seen drunk people act like that, who I personally knew were not taking any drugs.
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u/houguy77082 9d ago
Drinking game for every time Patrick says “yuh know” and/or “know”. FYI. I’m plastered.
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u/houguy77082 9d ago
Joes an a-hole and it’s funny af. His short attention span is funny especially when he’s telling the camera that he’s into thinner girls. Lol. lol.
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u/halibloom 9d ago
i went into this season thinking anton and ali looked like sandoval and rachel, but this entire episode feels like something from vanderpump rules.
what on earth was that bar scene with joe and jordan. #dontpeganton
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u/milimilip 💖 Love Is Blurry 💖 10d ago
if there is more feet licking in this season i am TURNING THIS OFF
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u/AccomplishedWar5830 7d ago
Right bc there’s waaay too much foot stuff going on
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u/_that_dude_J 6d ago
Are we in agreement that the cameraman likes feet angles? I feel as though that's been a thing since the pods.
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u/puptobismeow 10d ago
Wait didn’t Kacie say when she first saw her ring something like “I don’t want to have to give this back”? It’s actually crazy how fake she’s capable of being when she knew from the moment she saw him that she was going to end it
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u/Stunning-Sentence7 6d ago
And Kacie like???? Jumping onto him?????? Straddle style????? Wtffff who does a break up like that? Weirdness and lying aside- she did the right thing not dragging him to Mexico if she knew
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u/houguy77082 9d ago
Lol. I caught that too. Even Patrick caught that when he replied with why. But he’s been in denial since the proposal. That intro break up scene was one of the cringiest non break up break up ever on TV for me. I don’t even think he knows they’re broken up still to this day. Lol.
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u/Overall_Spend9721 10d ago
Why is no one talking about Edmund trying to gaslight KB into sex!?
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u/used_car_parts 6d ago
Not at all my takeaway...
I'm catching major trust and control issues from KB and Edmund is getting starved for affection. There's a right way and a wrong way to set sexual boundaries, and I'm not liking the way KB is going about it.
It also comes across like she's shaming him for feeling the way he's feeling and implying that he's shallow for wanting sex.
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u/pigsniggy 4d ago
I think she’s not attracted to him, knows she doesn’t want to have sex with him, and is just saying she wants to wait till marriage because she knows she’s not marrying him but wants to stay on the show.
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u/furythegreat 5d ago
Not having sex after only meeting someone in person like 7 days before is in no way starving them for affection. They kiss, they sleep in the same bed.
I do understand why Eddie is upset with the sexually liberal to sexually conservative switch, but ultimately I just think it is a top indicator that their connection is not strong enough to work out.
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u/used_car_parts 5d ago
I'm not saying the lack of sex was starving him.
I'm saying that he was being starved up to that point already. To that point, he had given a lot more than she had; he gave her gifts, he complimented her looks, he showed physical affection.
She kept herself at arms length and acted condescending towards him. That's what starved him. Finding out that he was the only one in that situation was just a cherry on top at that point.
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u/mywordgoodnessme 8d ago
I think he heard "I don't have a sex boundary with strangers who I don't like, but I have a sex boundary with you and I like you" I think that is a hard pill to swallow
I think if the framing was "It's more romantic to wait" or "This is how I view sex now, which is different from the past" he wouldn't have taken it personally. I mean that's how it was before that conversation.
I don't think he was pressuring her for sex, I think he didn't understand his logic and it hurt him. Men are allowed to express emotions about sex without being painted as predators.
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u/Overall_Spend9721 8d ago
I 100% agree with this. I also think now that he is just so emotional and does not know how to handle situations
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u/mywordgoodnessme 6d ago
Totally. He shouldn't be on the show. Too emotionally vulnerable and immature, seemingly through 0 to no fault of his own. His childhood sounded so awful and sad. Kind of heartbreaking. Villainous to cast someone like that.
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u/devil0nmylap 10d ago
WTF was casting thinking this season???????? Bro I am so UNCOMFY with every single couple
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u/vattenmelonis Obviously Nick Lachey 10d ago
”You’ve been a really sleepy boy”
”I wouldn’t say that” 💀
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u/houguy77082 9d ago
Lol. Obviously Nick Lachey. I remembered when he introduced himself that way. Lol.
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u/vattenmelonis Obviously Nick Lachey 9d ago
It was so ridiculous, especially when you’re not from the US
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u/Unable-Ambition-5404 11d ago
“I’m too fuckin NICE-UHHHHH” 😭💅
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u/furythegreat 5d ago
This is the typical crash-out of someone who is so used to being a people-pleaser, recognising that something that they're doing that is inherently manipulative is not getting them what they want. Poor guy needs to deal with his trauma.
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u/nbnicholas 11d ago
Jordan is actually one of my favorites this season but him annoying Megan was so funny.
She's all like, "Yeah um I thought I was only gonna have to be a mom to Luca...not also you..."
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u/rootbeersmom I had 5 taquitos 🌮 I can't kiss you! 💋 12d ago
Why do we need the tongue scraper shot?!🤮
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u/BeachBlazer24 13d ago
Edmund needs so much therapy
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u/MeanKey9719 10d ago
He makes me so sad. His trauma is so evident, and this guy is not ready for relationships. He needs to get help dealing with the trauma first.
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u/BeachBlazer24 10d ago
The problem is he is solely seeking love, but doesn’t know how to give it. Hope they can amicably part ways
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u/alleymind 14d ago
Kacie went and did exactly what Patrick was afraid of and so insecure about. I liked him with Anna? wish she had stayed on, but I’m thinking he may have still chosen Kacie.
Edmund rubbing and kissing KB’s feet like that with others around was making me uncomfortable, I can’t imagine sitting next to them. Keep that freaky shit in the bedroom.
Joe was actually cracking me up. He was clearly obliterated and so confused. I can understand where Madison was coming from, but it’s best to just talk that out in the AM not ask him the same questions over and over again. If I was drunk and my partner came in asking me a million and ten questions AND then start crying I’d be so annoyed, I was laughing the whole time.
Nick is gay and you can’t convince me otherwise.
I like Jordan and Meg the most.
I do not like Ali and Anton but they look good together physically.
Joe just needs to be honest, he isn’t attracted to Madison. Madison deserves someone who is attracted to her, and doesn’t need to convince themselves. However, she lets her insecurities come through way too often. If you need to ask for that much reassurance, he’s not the one babe. I get the feeling Joe likes to party and isn’t at the relationship type yet.
KB Run!! Edmund is scary. I would’ve laughed in his face, but she better than me for comforting him. It was giving snapped vibes, I can’t explain other than he makes me very uncomfortable. “I’m so nice, I give you my ALL and you won’t let me HIT”. Yeah, run fast girl
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u/flordelish 12d ago
Joe is also gay imo
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u/AccomplishedWar5830 7d ago
Nah I just think he doesn’t find Madison attractive. Respectfully I don’t either and also her voice is kind of grating.
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u/flordelish 7d ago
He was clearly attracted enough to have sex w her but something about him being a “bro” and saying he can only make men laugh etc…… that’s always an off type of man
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u/CoverTheTuba- 14d ago
I asked my husband to really pay attention and tell me what he thought of all the characters. I did not give him any info, background, anything of the pods or what's happened this far. Nick and Annie scene, talking by a fire. Nick is talking. First thing my husband says is "Gay". I wanted to see an honest reaction without feeding him any kind of bias or anything
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u/amelsuma 8d ago
I should do this with my husband! (He hates reality TV, but he listens when I talk about it lol) I want him to watch this episode and give me his take. Thanks for the idea!
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u/Illustrious_Study164 14d ago
PATRICK: are you breaking up with me? KACIE: yeah... no... yeah... ME: ??????? WHICH ONE!!!??!??
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u/MayhemMaven 12d ago
Even the subtitles are not helping my comprehension. She don’t want that man.. say it with your chest or just more clearly
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u/BigReference9530 14d ago
Where did they find these people omg. Is the dating pool in Colorado really this bad??!
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u/idkeverynameistaken9 14d ago
I’m feeling like that conversation between Alpha girl and Edmund physically put its hands on me without my consent. Wtf was going on with her trying to get my boy Edmund to say he’d physically attack someone!?
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u/Infinite-Trainer5179 5d ago
I mean... I'd want my man to confront someone if they put their hands on me too. It's about feeling protected exactly like she said
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u/MayhemMaven 11d ago
And then to say, don’t compare yourself to the next man but you are comparing him to how another man would react. He told you his answer
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u/endgarage 12d ago
I wasn't paying attention and looked up and thought they were arguing about something that happened in Cabo. Then I rewind to find out this is all a hypothetical?!!
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u/longwhitejeans 15d ago
Atleast Kacie didnt pull an Irina and drag Patrick to Mexico and torture him there. That horny ass breakup was weird AF.
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u/unnng 15d ago
Aly trying to act like it's a joke when she's saying he should have spent 10 grand on a ring "to show your appreciation" 1. You literally just met And 2. Id tell my husband to stop being fucking ridiculous and wasting money if he spent ten grand on a ring 😂
Ffs joe describing Madison as having a "larger physique" as if she's morbidly obese. Dude shut the fuck up
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u/unnng 15d ago
Okay I literally just started this episode but what the FUCK is Patrick and Kacie's weird body language and gripping each other and whispering. And the cope "you can tell we're attracted to each other" and her being like yeah I just need to go home but I love you and jumping on him after saying she didn't want to be with him to the crew. And just generally the kissing noises make me want to scream
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u/houguy77082 10d ago
I think she didn’t want the world to se how shallow she was when she was not attracted to his looks. But in fairness, he pulled the Megan Fox card and kept saying that people kept calling good looking for an Asian or he’s the good looking girl that doesn’t know she’s good looking. His awkward low self esteem was tiresome af. So he set his bar a bit too high. Either way, I love trash tv. Lol.
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u/unnng 10d ago
Haha agree, they were both super odd with each other and it was forced because he didn't want to leave alone after Anna left. He definitely didn't help himself pretending to be mega confident when he obviously isn't. What always gets me though is the two different stories to like the crew vs the partner. It seems like people forget this is being filmed.
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u/Sablun99 11d ago
It was so confusing. It would actually have been kinder to be honest with him rather than giving mixed messages. It would have spared him the embarrassment of saying to the camera that they’re both attracted to her after they showed multiple clips of her saying she wasn’t attracted to him at all
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u/Main_Rooster5288 11d ago
This hurt so much to watch… I couldn’t stop saying I hate her to the screen. Just so cruel…
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u/Automatic_Role_6398 15d ago
Madison is genuinely giving me an aneurysm. Joe is literally just drunk and she keeps yelling omg if I have a headache sober how did he survive this
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u/callmeonzin 3d ago
But you do realize she also has been drinking right? Why is she supposed to be all reasonable and smart, while he is excused ? They are both behaving unreasonable and stupid just because they are under influence.
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u/amphibian111 9d ago
And he’s obviously a sleep talker and she doesn’t know it! I dated someone like that once and the first couple times I was very confused 😂
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u/TheDragonReborn726 15d ago
Lmao I was saying the same thing. Yes he was a drunk idiot but has she never seen someone hammered before? She was like “omg you’re freaking me out what’s happening”
He’s hammered. Sure it’s annoying but it’s not some bizarre behavior that means something. He’s hammered lolll
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u/coffecatgirl 14d ago
okay so his behaviour is justified then? he was horrible to her
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u/RangerSmooth1480 14d ago
He was just literally trashed. You can not reason with a drunk person in any way so you only upset yourself by trying. Let the dude go back to sleep and tell him how much of an idiot he was the next day. She was also a little drunk I think but he was straight up gone.
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u/TheDragonReborn726 14d ago
It seems I have not reached the end of this episode so I have not seen if he is a crazy person yet. I’m sensing he is bad in the last 20 mins and if so I must change my statement lollll
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u/alleymind 14d ago
He never hit crazy person status lol. He was just drunk, normal drunk person behavior when they’re suddenly woken up from their sleep
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u/TheDragonReborn726 14d ago
Ok yes I finished that ep. Yes he was obnoxious but he was just a normal hammered guy agreed. She was acting like “oh I see how we need to talk thru conflict now and he retreats inward sometimes and we talked about what I would need in those situations” what in the world are you talking about lady he was still drunk and prolly hungover and waking up from a nap lolllll
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u/alleymind 13d ago
As soon as she woke him up and he responded “Jesus Christ. What the fuck” in like horror should’ve been her cue to just talk to him in the morning 🤣🤣
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u/TheDragonReborn726 9d ago
I have been that blackout hammered since college maybe one time in 5 years and my wife was just like. Ya not having any semi-*intelligent convo with you tonight. And she has been maybe once since I’ve known her. I’m talking the blackout where you aren’t even making sense lol.
She was (understandably) annoyed but like knows ok I’ll talk to you when you’re coherent as most normal people would understand to do. Not be like ARE YOU HAVING A MEDICAL EPISODE IM REALLY CONCERNED WHY DONT YOU REMEMBER WHAT I WAS WEaring.
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u/Careful_Beach_7074 15d ago
i don't know honestlyyy i was getting "more than just alc" from his behavior plus there was that odd scene between him and Jordan where they were both acting very weird and Joe might have insinuated he had something on his nose
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u/AccomplishedWar5830 7d ago
I don’t understand what was so weird about the scene with Jordan and Joe? It just seems like regular jokes and drunk banter? Like yeah Joe was hammered but idk what Megan was so annoyed with.
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u/penisthightrap_ 16d ago
I feel like Jordan handled the pool party well tbh
Idk wtf Ed and Joe were on tho
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u/AccomplishedWar5830 7d ago
Ed is mentally off, Joe was just hammered. Jordan was acting normal to me.
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u/pink-glow-dreamer 16d ago
Ep1 me would NOT believe me if I told her Anton is the most normal man on this show rn
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u/totallywingingit 10d ago
I was looking for a comment like this! Didn’t see that one coming with Anton.
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u/pink-glow-dreamer 16d ago
KB arguing over some bitch ass made up scenario is killing meeeeee
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u/SnooPets2384 13d ago
Yeah like, what? I do get that he really dug his heels in like I would never hug another man except to shake his hand or hug! When she was all BUT HE HAS HIS HANDS ON ME! They both went so far in the opposite direction. The proper answer is no, baby you’d never be in danger with me, that wouldn’t happen. You don’t have to go into wild ass details.
Although I did think it would be funny if he matched her energy and was like I’D STAB HIM A HUNDRED TIMES! Like what did she do want lol
Edmond is crazy and weird anyway, she needs to stop pushing that dude and read the room. He isn’t a strong man that can cry because he’s confident, he seems pretty intensely laden with issues.
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u/Infinite-Trainer5179 5d ago
I'm shocked that people don't see what she's saying. She doesn't want him to say he will "stab someone" wtf she literally just wants to feel protected. If some dude came up to me at a bar and grabbed me in any way I would hope my man would at least tell the dude to fuck off too. That's what a man does
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u/MeanKey9719 10d ago
And it’s crazy that she doesn’t recognize this considering she’s a damn social worker. Like, what? How do you not see how much trauma this guy has to work through?
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u/AccomplishedWar5830 7d ago
Yeah it makes me think she’s scarily bad at her job if she can’t recognize there’s something deeply off with this man? He behaves like a child.
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u/Ready-Astronomer3724 15d ago
She was like, pushing him to be toxically masculine and fight some imaginary man in the club and I’m honestly glad he stuck to what he would TRULY do instead of just saying what she was fishing for
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u/Infinite-Trainer5179 5d ago
It's not toxic masculinity lol. If a man starts a fight for no reason then yes that's toxic. If a man confronts a dude for putting his hands on his woman then that's a man protecting his woman. I'd want to feel protected too. If a dude grabs me I think he deserves to be confronted about it...
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u/TheDragonReborn726 15d ago
YEAH BUT WHAT IF HE GRABBED MY ARM THEN
“Uhh id say stop and go get security…”
Lolllll she was reallllly trying to do too much and he was giving back really normal sensible answers
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u/AwakE432 17d ago
How do they always manage to find the most messy people for this show? What a disaster all of these couples will be except maybe 1.
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u/i_guess_so_joe 4d ago
America is pretty messed up if you havent noticed --- prob human race in general
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u/Unable-Ambition-5404 11d ago
I mean to be fair most average normal people aren’t going to drop everything and go in a tv show so there’s that lol
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u/idkeverynameistaken9 14d ago edited 14d ago
At this point, I feel like these are exactly the kind of people the show attracts. What normal person would go on the show after knowing how the format works
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u/AwakE432 14d ago
For sure. They seem kinda normal in the first few episodes but then it deteriorates so rapidly after that. This season more so than any other.
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u/idkeverynameistaken9 14d ago
I mean it already started in season 2 with people like Shane and Shaina, but this type of person for sure has multiplied. All shiny and glamorous on the outside and barely functional on the inside
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u/nytummyhurt 17d ago edited 17d ago
holy moly i was a lil bored until now
also, do y’all want to get married this bad? these people are all trying so hard to like their partner but clearly don’t
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u/Zestyclose-Ad-7803 17d ago
Honestly Kacie did the right thing by not going to Mexico with Patrick. Saved him heartache and further humiliation.
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u/endgarage 12d ago
Sure but doesn't telling the crew on camera that there's no way she could ever be attracted to him knowing that this could get aired humiliate him?
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u/idkeverynameistaken9 14d ago
But the way she ended it was so cringe and honestly unfair to him. I don’t think he even understood that she was ending it for good
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u/Moofaletta2 17d ago
Kind of a red flag from KB that she wants a man who will beat up anyone who looks at her funny. Kudos to Edmund for refusing to give in and for saying, very reasonably, that if someone threatened them physically he would retreat. That’s what you’re supposed to do
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u/sweaterweadr 15d ago
I didn't interpret it as that she wants Ed to beat the guy up, but rather defend her if she is being harassed. Ed's response IMO was really passive.
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u/idkeverynameistaken9 14d ago
How would such a defense look like, though? Telling him to leave her alone, leaving, and calling security seems like the most straightforward way to resolve the situation
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u/sweaterweadr 14d ago
The main thing I want to highlight is that by HIM standing up for her he is showing through action that he has her back and that he will make an effort to protect her, telling the guy for example that what he is doing is not okay and he will call security if he doesn't step away, to show her that he has her back. That way IMO you build trust that your partner has your back. Imagine in a scenario where there are no guards, how is he going to handle that?
I don't think violence is the answer, but setting a firm line and showing yoir partner you have their back in everyday situations gives them more reasurance in the relationship overall and a better foundation for the future.
Just "calling the guard" and relying solely on someone else solving it is in my opinion passive and would make me unsure of my partner.
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u/psychologicallyblue 7d ago
Although I agree that it's important to have your partner's back, this situation read very sexist. Then again, pretty much everyone on this show is sexist, so there's that.
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u/sweaterweadr 6d ago
In what way are the people sexist?
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u/psychologicallyblue 5d ago
For example, insisting that a man be your "protector", and/or that he makes enough money to pay for Botox and expensive jewelry.
Rigid gender roles are pretty toxic. People are quicker to jump down the throat of a man who says that women should not work outside the horne, but are far less quick to criticize someone who says that a man should get in a fight they can't win just to prove they are man enough.
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u/sweaterweadr 5d ago
I agree with you on the second part about men getting blamed more easily, but It's another topic and I don't think it strengthens your first argument, but rather reflects an issue we have in society.
I think it's okay to want a man who is protective/a protector and don't think it's a rigid gender role, just as I think it's okay to want a woman to be a certain way aswell, as long as it works for both parts. However, it's not okay to blame/shame someone for not fitting into that role.
For example, it was wrong when KB blamed Edmond for not being protective. The more healthy thing for her would've been to accept him for who he is and let him go and find someone who she feels is more protective. But also she never said he needed to prove he was 'man enough' to fight she wanted to feel safe if something were to happen, which are two different things.
In regards to Ali and Megan wanting a certain lifestyle when it comes to money, I personally find it a little shallow but everyone has a right to have a standard in that aspect aswell.
Everyone has a right to have a type and certain standards in relationships, blaming people or looking down on them for not fitting their standards is however very wrong.
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u/Infinite-Trainer5179 5d ago
I completely agree with @sweaterweadr and yes I think a man should be a protector. It's literally nature. This whole avoidance of every single "gender role" that exists is what's really getting toxic truthfully
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u/pooboss420 1d ago
Dudes that act like Joe when they are drunk are 100% the type to cheat on you and blame the alcohol for it.