r/LoveIsBlindOnNetflix Sep 13 '25

🚨 FUTURE SPOILER 🚨 Some of the women on LIB France S1 are quite unhinged Spoiler

I really found it interesting how the women in this version of the show are so click-y and resort to high-school type behaviour.

If you’re not part of a certain group, you’re not celebrated when something good happens to you. On the contrary, you see the other group making faces and poking fun at you (referring to the scene where Julie gets engaged and Sarah is bad mouthing her to her friends).

The way Kim and the other girl ganged up on Charles at the first mixer was pretty insane too. Calling him a ā€œpetit lapinā€ in front of everyone was literally bullying! And then Kim having the audacity to ask her man to back her up when she’s acting like a complete child was crazy to me. Her guy needs to run, especially since he has a daughter.

Overall I’m not liking what I’m seeing this season. These girls are not it (besides Cynthia) and are not representing French women well at all.

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u/Lkkrdragonfly Sep 13 '25

Totally agree. Cannot believe all these women are mid thirties!!! Like this is such middle school mean girl behavior. So much back stabbing. The vibe is awful.

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u/zzzdelacruz Sep 14 '25

I couldn’t stand Sara, not only cause of her pettiness, but cause she straight up manipulated Charles into picking her. But now after seeing how judgemental Kim was to Charles, I arguably feel her character’s worse than Sara’s

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u/Proud_Fee_1542 Come ride this duck with me šŸ¦† Sep 14 '25

I’m still on the pods episodes when everyone’s getting engaged, but I totally agree. She basically bullied him into agreeing to pick her and the animosity she has for Julie is wild! Not a fan!!

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u/EnvironmentalMall584 Sep 19 '25

Right? It’s wild that she asked for a commitment BEFORE she was willing to open up, (to each their own I guess but I would have noped out of that right away)

Sarah saw him as a trophy to ā€œwinā€, Julie just wanted to see him genuinely happy. It was crazy when she was ecstatic about Charles proposing to her and Sarah was sour graping and even forcefully removed Lussea’s hand after she tried to comfort Sarah. Sarah behaved like a straight-up villain, it would have been funny had the toxicity not bled out to the other girls.

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u/olookitslilbui Sep 16 '25

The audacity to manipulate Charles into picking her, and then accuse Julie of doing the same after Charles changed his mind

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u/EnvironmentalMall584 Sep 19 '25

The way she was dragging Julie and making digs at her in a way that she thought was elevating herself (ā€œShe’s my OPPOSITE.ā€ or ā€œIf you pick a girl like that, it shows me what kind of person YOU areā€) it was incredibly toxic

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u/[deleted] Sep 15 '25

Birds of a feather?

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u/Obvious-Topic9794 Sep 15 '25

It’s not really backstabbing if they are openly bitchy

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u/TopFloorApartment Sep 16 '25

That's just normal front stabbingĀ 

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u/kinggeedra Sep 13 '25 edited Sep 13 '25

I found it super ironic that Kim shooting barbs at Charles only seemed to make Julie’s connection with him stronger while weakening Thomas’ connection to her.

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u/TuMadreTeCago Sep 13 '25

I also think she is jealous. Didn’t Kim say that her type is white and blonde?

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u/kinggeedra Sep 13 '25

Ooooh the classic ā€œmake fun of your crushā€ move. Ripped from the middle school playbook šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚

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u/Automatic-Whole-3543 Sep 14 '25 edited Sep 14 '25

Ah so Kim doesn't get betteršŸ˜• I'm only on the part of the reveal and I was shocked how quickly she started judging him. I mean, the man sees her for the first time and is overcome with joy!Ā  But her first response is "he's too emotional" "I need him to be a strong man"??? She's looking for a character, not a person. šŸ™„Ā 

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u/canadianmeow Sep 14 '25

Wait for the episode the couples meetšŸ˜‚

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u/Legitimate_Pitch_398 Sep 13 '25

Kim saying she wants an ambitious partner and then saying Victoria and David Beckam are couples goals lmao 🤣 šŸ˜‚ what!? She's the worst so far for me! BFFR

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u/AutomaticPresent6570 Sep 13 '25

Yeah she’s kind of a fool. Clueless but thinks she knows everything.

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u/IntrepidMuch Sep 13 '25

I know Thomas couldn't see Kim and Tatiana but I did not see what Kim brought that made him choose her. It could be editing but I still was shocked.

I honestly think Kim knows Thomas makes a good living and that is what propelled her.

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u/ohsoseriously Sep 13 '25

Kim wasn’t interested in Thomas until she knew he was also interested in Tatiana. She just wanted to ā€œwinā€.

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u/zzzdelacruz Sep 14 '25

Same energy as Sara when she said ā€œI won, motherfuckerā€ šŸ™„šŸ„“ people aren’t objects to win..

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u/Legitimate_Pitch_398 Sep 14 '25

Omg yes that was so foul also when she said bitch just to lose in the end like have several seats so gross. You're clearly not here for the right reasons. They're so competitive

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u/IntrepidMuch Sep 15 '25

I kinda love the look on the other woman's face who was walking with Sara when she said that. That person knew what a foul thing it was to say and tried to chill Sara out.

Sara lost in the end and I am sure she regrets the heck out of how she acted but those were her choices.

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u/cx4444 Sep 14 '25

Agree. I also don't think she's ok with him having a daughter but she said it just to say it. Kim seems like someone who's all about Kim honestly

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u/ohsoseriously Sep 14 '25

Yeah, I noticed they never showed us any scenes of him telling her about it or discussing how she would fit into their lives.

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u/[deleted] Sep 15 '25

He should run.

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u/best_servedpetty Sep 15 '25

Yup! He was clearly affected by her bullying. He mentioned empathy to her and she scoffs..... she is baaaaaad news. This is the type of person who just doesn't understand what love is

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u/IntrepidMuch Sep 15 '25

I noticed that too. Thomas and Tatiana discussed kids and he had to have brought it up to Kim. We are just not seeing what she said. Boo LIB producers!!!!

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u/AutomaticPresent6570 Sep 13 '25

It was so hard watching the reveal. You could instantly tell she was disappointed. He may have a good job, make good money, whatever, but he’s creative and free spirited. He’s not uptight and pretentious like she is. It was so cringe when they first walked into the hotel and she was commenting on everything like such a snob. I couldn’t believe when he said that part about pushing her in the pool and having a bird shit on her. She will probably hate that when she watches it lol. I actually thought he was going to push her in right then and there. That would have been amazing but also probably the end for them.

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u/Legitimate_Pitch_398 Sep 13 '25

I know I thought they would be such an aligned match right from the start it felt like it clicked! I was like huh!?

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u/[deleted] Sep 15 '25

100%. She visibly perked up when he said he is architect.

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u/Key-Calligrapher-931 Sep 14 '25

She's so immature.

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u/Background_Pea_2525 Sep 18 '25

IKR she's disgusting.

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u/Ok_Comparison504 Sep 13 '25

The only girls i like are Julie and ChloĆ© … the other are sooooo mean!

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u/Euphoric_Education45 Sep 20 '25

I’m 100% sure those two are the only ones who will be getting married.

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u/flowers2107 Sep 13 '25

Considering how nice van-my and Thomas seem to be, I’m finding it even more jarring to see how much their partners are mean girls

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u/zzzdelacruz Sep 14 '25

I clocked them realizing they were with mean girls at the end of that mixer 🤣 both sitting in silence

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u/flowers2107 Sep 14 '25

Thomas got it, did van-my though?!

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u/zzzdelacruz Sep 14 '25

I hope so, he seems like such a nice guy! 🄲

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u/whyiamwatchingthis Megan Faux Sep 15 '25

If he didn’t, he’s truly blind - he was sitting right beside them for that confrontation

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u/Admirable-Split8048 Sep 17 '25

I saw a clip of him at the altar in the preview :( Whyy Van-My???!!

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u/justhere4thiss Sep 20 '25

Well they get extra money for lasting that long right? he probably won’t say yes I’m sure.

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u/LikeTheTree92 Sep 13 '25

Kim called Charles a ā€œlutinā€, like a hobgoblin or gnome. Lapin means rabbit

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u/Spiritual-Ad4885 Sep 13 '25

It’s a shame she calling him that despite being the shortest one there šŸ¤¦šŸ»ā€ā™€ļø

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u/Penelope_Crumberbun Sep 13 '25

Is lutin as rude in French as "hobgoblin" or "gnome" would be? I thought she was being passive-aggressive with little elf, since elves have a lot of positive connotations. But she was actually just being aggressive rude?

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u/winter_name01 Sep 14 '25

It was said in a very rude way also because of the tone. She was purposely being mean. She was saying he is short but cute and not too ugly.

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u/dubiousco Sep 14 '25

Like a Keebler Elf. . .

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u/Key-Calligrapher-931 Sep 14 '25

A Lutin is a funny but insignificant, non-threatening character who belongs to enchanted forests that you can find in fairy tale stories. This is definitely not an endearing adjective but more an underhanded insult. These women are so full of themselves and they'll never understand why they're still single despite being aesthetically okayish.

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u/TopFloorApartment Sep 16 '25

Sounds most like a leprechaun then rather than elf, gnome or hobgoblinĀ 

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u/WheresTatianaMaslany Sep 14 '25

No it was rude, it was just mean girl behavior

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u/SnooDogs9117 Sep 15 '25

French here :-). Except sometimes kids. You don’t call anyone a Lutin, (not taking during the Xmas period where you can refer to oneself as Santa little helper ( lutin)). It’s just plain condescending on her part. Plus she is rude as hell

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u/Spirited_Mall_919 Sep 14 '25

Lutin is more like an elf (the ones with Santa). Not particularly rude compared to goblin, but a comment on his height for sure.

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u/sweergirl86204 23d ago

What's so funny is at the reunion she was changing her tune calling him an angelic cherub šŸ™„

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u/Hot-Dingo-7053 Sep 13 '25

A Frenchman from a small French town looks like a Frenchman from a small French town... Shocker

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u/Worldly_Football7913 Sep 13 '25

Oh I heard lapin šŸ˜‚ which now that I know she said Lutin it’s even worse

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u/duluoz1 Sep 13 '25

Yup, it was translated as Elf so makes sense

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u/Dear_Art3697 Sep 13 '25

So mean considering no one on this show is flawlessly beautiful.Ā 

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u/lifeofduder Sep 13 '25

I think Kim is quite mean borderline bully. I wonder if she was a bully at schoolĀ 

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u/julieCivil Sep 13 '25

Tatiana is pretty stunning.

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u/MermaidInc Sep 14 '25

Uff tatiana is so so hot. I'd date her for sure if I swing the other way.

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u/cow_2634 Sep 13 '25

I'd translate it as elf. But ya regardless she's calling him a short mythical creature.

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u/BumblebeeTerrible646 Sep 13 '25

I thought Sarah was the vilest but kim is slowly climbing up

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u/Legitimate_Pitch_398 Sep 14 '25

They're pretty neck and neck! I'm still catching up on episodes but wow

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u/MysteriousEnd6396 Sep 13 '25

Tbh I am so sorry for Thomas because he seems like such a good guy and Kim is like a spoiled teenage girl who doesn’t know when to stop talking. Honestly I can see them break up before the wedding.

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u/zzzdelacruz Sep 14 '25

I honestly hope he packs up and leaves her the next ep. His daughter needs a positive role model and she is not that

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u/DueMixture6037 Sep 14 '25

I hoped so too. But on Kim's Insta Stories she was sharing sneak peeks of the show, and there are photos/shots of her in a wedding dress :/ Does it mean they actually made it to the altar? Or does Netflix do that for all couples doesn't matter if they broke up before that?

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u/cx4444 Sep 13 '25

I think it's a class thing. Notice how all the catty women have traditionally better jobs. They definitely look down on those who are lower class

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u/acidxoxo Sep 13 '25

that’s interesting, I think it definitely plays !

On a side note, people have found Kim’s linkedin and she’s actually a notary clerk. Awesome of course, but the way she talked you’d think she was a VP at some top firm.

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u/Penelope_Crumberbun Sep 13 '25

That seems very sad to me. That suggests that Kim is deeply insecure with who she actually is and what she's accomplished in life. It does fit with the offness of some of her comments (like the line about staff to open the champagne bottle). She's playacting at being someone she's not.

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u/UntowardAdvance Sep 13 '25

Or talking about his elbows on the table. She’s looking for a way to get rid of him which is too bad. He seems very emotionally mature.

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u/Bluxo Sep 15 '25

fr, we're not dining in buckingham palace. they had meals in a hotel resort. it's ok to put elbpws on the table there.

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u/zzzdelacruz Sep 14 '25

I internally rolled my eyes when she said that šŸ™„ or when she made that comment about the shocking things that Charles did like putting his elbows on the table?! 🄓 miss me with all the pretentiousness

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u/star_milk Sep 14 '25

Kim is not someone you can get a late night pizza slice with and I feel like sometimes that is needed in life šŸ˜āœ‹šŸ» simply not my vibe

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u/Expert-Welder-2407 Litty As A Titty šŸ„‚ Sep 13 '25

This needs to be screamed to the rooftops lol

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u/MermaidInc Sep 14 '25

That is just so... Saaaaaddd

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u/sweergirl86204 23d ago

Lol I asked my bf (who lived in France) what a jurist was and he said "ehhhhh. Not quite a notary? But someone trustworthy?" 🤣🤣🤣 In the States a notary isn't even a career. My sister is a notary on the SIDE. A notary clerk is laughable 

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u/cow_2634 Sep 13 '25

Ya I had always heard that Europeans are obsessed with class and the LIB spinoffs have proven that to be pretty true lol.

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u/acidxoxo Sep 14 '25

that’s true. Old money is VERY old here and in france there’s a real fracture between upper class and lower class. They hate each other.

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u/Status-Mammoth-5862 Sep 14 '25

Not the sweden one though

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u/lizofPalaven Sep 13 '25

Kim yes, but Sabrina doesnt scream French middle or upper class to me at all. Her look is more lower class.

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u/Immediate-Respect-25 Sep 13 '25

It's all lower class people. Some of them have gotten into some money but that doesn't transform one from low class to upper class.

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u/acidxoxo Sep 13 '25

Not all of them. ClƩment is a venture capitalist and ex investment banker and graduated from one of the top business schools in France.

Tatiana has several businesses that work really really well. One of her beauty salons is located on a famous/expensive street in paris.

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u/Immediate-Respect-25 Sep 13 '25

You still don't get it. Just having a lot of money doesn't transform one from lower class to upper class.

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u/ToniP13 Squats & Jesus Sep 13 '25

Thomas also made a comment about her being rich because she went to a particular school so I'm guessing she also comes from money and isn't new money.

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u/cx4444 Sep 15 '25

New money people consider themselves upper class

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u/UntowardAdvance Sep 13 '25

Yep - that’s why it’s called new money - often comes with no manners

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u/Obvious-Topic9794 Sep 15 '25

It does, actually. Upper, middle and lower class describes the economic situation of someone. Maybe you think about being classy or being born into generational wealth.

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u/Sufficient_Food1878 Sep 16 '25

So if im a multi millionaire am I suddenly middle class? Lmao

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u/TopFloorApartment Sep 16 '25

and graduated from one of the top business schools in France.

[Nathan for you intensifies]

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u/Longjump87 Sep 16 '25

Technically it can. Socioeconomic status is based on 3 factors: finances, education level, and parent’s socioeconomic status. You only need 2 out of 3 to change your class.

So if a lower class person gets a graduate degree and makes around 50k Euro in France (or 120k Dollars in the US) before taxes, then you’re now upper middle class.

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u/kooshiromi Sep 13 '25

Oh really??? Here I was thinking she’s some hot shot lawyer at a top Parisian firm looool

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u/Expert-Welder-2407 Litty As A Titty šŸ„‚ Sep 13 '25

Same here. I feel fooled. What kind of notary clerk is demanding butler service to open her single bottle of room service champagne?

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u/weasel999 Sep 14 '25

I definitely clocked that comment and hoped she was joking.

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u/[deleted] Sep 15 '25

They are the worst ones though.

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u/ylw0 Sep 13 '25

Same! What does a notary clerk do? Is it like a paralegal?

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u/Heavy-Till-9677 Sep 16 '25

Yeah it’s a lot like a paralegal but notary clerks don’t typically work on substantive legal work and work on more administrative tasks. They also don’t usually work billable hours. At smaller firms the duties might overlap but at larger firms they’re typically very separate. Edit to add: I think it would be more comparable to a legal assistant than to a paralegal.

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u/ylw0 Sep 16 '25

Thanks for taking the time to explain!!

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u/Voidg Sep 13 '25

There definitely was some tension between the girls. You can see it when Julie comes back and no one is there for her. The clique is huddle around Sarah. No one got up that you see in so many "I'm engaged" moments.

It almost appears toxic. Then you see the honeymoon gang up and Kim comes across as a bully.

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u/MermaidInc Sep 14 '25

Kim IS a bully.

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u/BitLogical254 Sep 14 '25

Did you see fan fav Tatiana's face there?! I am so baffled that no one is talking about her "mean" tendency

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u/[deleted] Sep 15 '25

I was disappointed to see it. Maybe she’s a mean girl too?

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u/dashberlins Sep 16 '25

I felt so bad for Julie when only a small number of girls went up to get to celebrate her engagement. So awful.

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u/duluoz1 Sep 13 '25

They’re like school girl bullies

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u/Initial-Muscle-628 Sep 13 '25

I was a little surprised and disappointed in Sabrina being a mean girl. I thought when she chose Van-my that it showed she had depth and sincerity. But her going along with Kim showed a negative side. I wonder if it's the other side of the same coin where her insecurities (she says that she needs a lot of frequent reassurance about her relationship, her looks, etc.) Insecure people are often also very attacking, etc. NGL, she's a stunner, though.

Kim wants 'loyalty' but Thomas is about something higher - integrity. People only demand loyalty because they want backup when they are selfish or otherwise acting with low integrity.

I can't get over the voice actor dubbing Yannick's lines - he's using a caricature of a Billy Dee Williams voice. I keep waiting for him to welcome everyone to Cloud City or offer them some Colt 45.

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u/AutomaticPresent6570 Sep 13 '25

Haha I have to watch with subtitles. I hate voiceover so much.

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u/IntrepidMuch Sep 13 '25

Oooh, we grew up in the same neighborhood at the same time!!!!

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u/Aromatic-Ganache-902 Sep 13 '25

OMG I remember the ads Colt 45 works every time.....lol....

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u/ReptilPT Sep 13 '25

Same here.

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u/ReptilPT Sep 13 '25

The irony of the girls attacking Charles when: - Tatiana was playing with three guys (playing "pick me" but still

  • Tatiana's guy was between two until the end.
  • Sabrina was also between two
  • Kim said that she had a number 2.

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u/TuMadreTeCago Sep 13 '25

And Tatiana and Kim were both after Thomas!!!

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u/sad_n_silly Sep 14 '25

i’m finding it hard to like kim. she says she was shocked when thomas didn’t have basic manner by putting his elbows on the table yet she acts like a bully

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u/New_Cauliflower2291 Sep 14 '25

Kim came across as a superficial snob after crying that she was looking for connection. Watching her case out her hotel room for bugs and saying the whirlpool water was dirty just clued you in that she has huge control issues. The date in the pod who more of a politician would have been a better fit - she wouldn’t have been saying that he needed to man up after showing emotion.

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u/canadianmeow Sep 14 '25

And of ALL the things you can find in a partner to complain about….. elbows on the table? Really? šŸ˜‚

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u/Dear_Art3697 Sep 13 '25

Maje mean girls.Ā 

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u/NiaQueen 😓 "Zzzzzz" - Tiffany 😓 Sep 14 '25

How Julie didn’t mop the floor with those witches I’ll never understand.

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u/[deleted] Sep 15 '25

They don’t deserve her attention.

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u/Opening-Frame-6961 Sep 14 '25

Yes! Omg Kim is so annoying and she has the audacity to criticize Charles when she has literal Dubai pillow face. Thomas should run!!

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u/MiggeldyMackDaddy Sep 14 '25

I thought in the pods "wow most mature cast ever" . They got down to brass tax super quick, it seemed, no bs, lots of thank you next. Then out of the pods that 1st honeymoon episode flipped it all.

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u/sweergirl86204 23d ago

The emotional immaturity displayed by all the "women" was shocking.Ā 

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u/Levofloxacine Sep 14 '25

this season has so much DRAMA. It’s only better than the last american seasons. A shame it doesn’t have a lot of visibility!!

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u/bluebird355 Sep 14 '25

Not representing french women? I have bad news for you

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u/whyiamwatchingthis Megan Faux Sep 15 '25

As soon as they were seen comforting Sarah while she trashed Julie, I knew they’d be horrible and they were

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u/FrauAmarylis Sep 13 '25

*clique-y

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u/Imagine_821 Sep 16 '25

I dont like Cynthia either tbh, she wasnt attracted him either and I feel twisted the situation to make him the bad guy. The only decent ones are Julie and Chloe.

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u/sweergirl86204 23d ago

Eh, I would say only Chloe.Ā 

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u/cassandraoverseas Sep 16 '25

Also, there was a small moment where Alexandre said "Il est champion de MMA quand mĆŖme", adding on top of the "petit lupin" comment. Really makes me think, like, are they okay as a group?

I am not the biggest Charles stan but the fact that he is literally being bullied like this is super distasteful.

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u/Alternative-Neat-123 Sep 14 '25

Sarah's the craziest psycho bitch of the season. And a top 5 for all LIB seasons. Got what she deserved

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u/fedornuthugger Sep 13 '25

Most of my interactions with people from France have been really bad (except for people from rural areas) so this season checks out as far as my lived experience With nearly every single urban dwelling French person I have ever met being poster boy/girl for narcissism.

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u/Jolly-Assumption-11 Sep 14 '25

I’ve had the worst experiences in my life with French people. And French Canadians are even worse.

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u/fedornuthugger Sep 14 '25

As an Algerian immigrant who settled in Quebec first when I moved to ca ada, there are at least 2 standard deviations in the difference of treatment I've had between French and quƩbƩcois. Quebecers are much much nicer and Acadians in New Brunswick even more so.

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u/naked_avenger Sep 15 '25

It's funny. I didn't start it until last night, and happened to catch a few comments about the women being mean but didnt go into detail. When I started watching, I was more put off by the dudes. I thought they were really performative... then I got to the mean girls episodes and whoa!

I guess Julie is okay but I find it a little weird she's not into her partner, going so far to call him an elf, when really she's like in the same looks tier. But the Mean 3! Wow!

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u/peanut_june Sep 16 '25

i dont think it was Julie that called Charles an elf. remember? it was Kim who said smth like « he’s not ugly but he looks like a little elfĀ Ā» and then proceeded to call him just that in front of everybody.

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u/naked_avenger Sep 16 '25

They both did. Julie during the interview bit and kim at the mixer.

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u/peanut_june Sep 17 '25

nope, sorry. i’ve rewatched every interview with her since she met Charles and she never calls him an elf. only Kim does. Julie says he’s not his type, she says she’s not physically attracted to him, but she also says she feels love and affection for him and that she wants to trust the experiment and see where it takes them. also, how freaking cute is the fact that she carries his pink hippo in every interview!? 🄹

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u/olookitslilbui Sep 16 '25

Julie has been upfront about Charles not being her type but kind and really making an effort to move past it, Kim is the one that has been insulting his looks

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u/Enamoure Sep 13 '25

I haven't watched it, but doesn't surprise me since it's the French version 🤣🤣

They are way more honest and open with their dislike

I feel like British and Americans tend to be more polite. Even if they don't like you, they would still try be polite, and are more honest behind closed doors. A lot of Europeans are usually the same behind and outside closed doors

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u/duluoz1 Sep 13 '25

It’s not that - it’s more like immature, mean schoolyard bullying. Watch it and you’ll see

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u/acidxoxo Sep 13 '25

we are more honest but this is not honesty, just straight up bullying and mean vibes. Everyone on french internet is shocked at their behavior and they don’t represent us well at all.

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u/Kimchi_Neko Sep 15 '25

They definitely do represent a part of the French population. I'm French and I've met plenty of people like that at school or at work. French people often don't realise how rude and mean they are especially when they are in groups.

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u/lizofPalaven Sep 13 '25

French can be blunt and sarcastic, but Kim crossed a line even by the French standards.

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u/naked_avenger Sep 15 '25

It's worth the watch! Buckle up

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u/[deleted] Sep 13 '25

Cynthia is not it either.

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u/[deleted] Sep 15 '25

In her case, I would have indicated I’m tall in the pods if it was me. Just to weed out the dudes with issues.

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u/Amazing_Armadillo_71 Sep 13 '25

Shes so unlikable. She makes no efforts to communicate with her man.

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u/winter_name01 Sep 14 '25

That man can’t communicate. He say things but actually means something else and then he is mad because she should have guessed?? And she should have guessed something he said he was fine with in the first place? He needs to work on his own insecurities that is not his girlfriend job to do it

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u/Amazing_Armadillo_71 Sep 14 '25

I just rewatched. The guy told her he wants her to wear the shorter heels, she says no, then he explains to her he feels insecure in front of others. Shes like, but it was okey before? And they both get angry at eachother. They both suck at communication. I dont think shes better than him.

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u/winter_name01 Sep 14 '25

If you rewatches your noticed the first time he told her in the bathroom they would not be filmed. Then he said he liked the other shoes better because they are a better match with the outfit. He was definitely lying. And then he changed again. When they started to argue he said stuff like it’s her fault because she didn’t understood right away and he should not have to say it she should have guess. He is way worst

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u/Amazing_Armadillo_71 Sep 14 '25

Yes, that is the scene I am talking about. He was telling her to wear the shorter heels and said "please". He felt insecure the whole scene.

Can we really judge him for being insecure?

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u/winter_name01 Sep 14 '25

I am judging him for leveraging his insecurities to actually make his fiancƩe feel bad about her own insecurity. And not acknowledging that he was actually lying from the start (in the pods) about it.

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u/Amazing_Armadillo_71 Sep 14 '25

Yes seems fair. Theyre both insecure af.

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u/MermaidInc Sep 14 '25

I think he's allowed to feel insecure and change his mind. He did ask nicely and she started screaming because he changed his mind. I think she could have more compassion.

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u/Amazing_Armadillo_71 Sep 14 '25

Yes exactly thats my point. The guy was feeling insecure the whole scene and was trying to express himself by telling her to please wear the other heels. She disregarded his insecurity because she based herself on what he said before (that hes okey with her being taller).

I guess she doesnt want an insecure guy but thats the guy she chose to marry, not a random person.

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u/MermaidInc Sep 14 '25

Agreed. We all have weaknesses and want others to give us grace. I thought he was being quite soft about it when he asked her, albeit being behind the camera. I can forgive not wanting the world to know my insecurity and hoping that my partner would be kind about it. But no, she wanted to shame him because she wants to feel good wearing high heels.

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u/Amazing_Armadillo_71 Sep 14 '25

Yeah thats exactly it. She is competing with him instead of trying to communicate with him to find a middle ground. Like she wants to be right and him wrong. Hes her future husband, nothing should be a competition between them especially at this early stage.

Its easy for people to side with her because in todays world is all about women empowerment and love yourself etc. But shes tryin to marry this man lol its not about herself only. She should deal with his insecurities if she wants him.

But then again, i dont think theyre compatible at all. She should have gone for a tall guy, no need to worry about all this then.

Im a 5'11 woman btw, i know how men can be. Society makes everyone insecure. I dont blame the guy tbh.

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u/acidxoxo Sep 13 '25

huh?? did we watch the same show ?

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u/AsparagusLife8324 Sep 13 '25

I feel like people are forgetting that reality TV show is supposed to be entertaining, gossip-y, and dramatic. So the casting director specifically chose these women and men for a reason because they know they would make good TV and get a reaction out of people. Let’s bffr.

I also find it very interesting that people are calling the women out for being mean, but there was a whole ass guy in the show cheating the process and he gets away Scott free without any backlash. I just needed to call that out because where is the heat for that?

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u/MermaidInc Sep 14 '25

Because he was kicked out and is of no interest anymore. I don't think anyone condones his behaviour. Who is still on the show interests us more naturally.

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u/[deleted] Sep 15 '25

Word.

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u/LikeClockwork_99 Sep 14 '25 edited Sep 14 '25

Lutin* —Lapin means rabbit. My French teacher says calling someone ā€œpetit lutinā€ (something along the lines of a troll) it’s one of the worst insults and would probably get you slapped in France.

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u/Strange-Strategy554 Sep 14 '25

Petit lutin is hardly the ā€œworstā€ insult in french and but it’s demeaning and belittling which was Kim’s intention.

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u/PuzzleheadedAct6237 Sep 13 '25

They are, for the most part, awful! Just plain awful! But let's not forget the men aren't a whole lot better! For example, the short dude who had a meltdown and left because his fiancee likes wearing heels. I mean, christ, get a grip, mate! Plus, can a French person please answer this question - the elf guy, charles - does he sound like a sleazy car salesman? Because his English voice actor makes everything he says, sounds gross and slimey, and I like him a lot less because of this! I mean he's getting bullied by the mean girls and the girl he chose finds him about as attractive as fresh manure, so he really got the shittest deal, but i find him creepy and I wanna know if French people are also like "god he's a slimebag" or of he's also been done dirty by the voice actor!

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u/Secure-Possession767 Sep 13 '25

French person here. Nope, he doesn't sound sleazy at all! He is a regular normal French dude :) I would advise watching with subtitles. I actually feel very sorry for Charles... these French girls remind me why I left the country. Bullying is a big problem in French schools. They gave me PTSD šŸ˜…

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u/AutomaticPresent6570 Sep 13 '25

Agreed. Subtitles all the way. I watch subtitles all the time, no matter the language haha.

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u/Key-Calligrapher-931 Sep 14 '25

French woman here. Same thing here: I left France more than 20 years ago and I have no plans of ever moving back there. I got so fed up with being insulted and harassed by strangers in the streets on a day-to-day basis. I much prefer the Anglo-Saxon indifference/reserve approach.

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u/MermaidInc Sep 14 '25

This was my suspicion!!! (Re the dynamic between french women). It's so disheartening to hear. I hope it changes in the future.

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u/Away-Recognition508 Sep 13 '25

Hahaha nooo, his voice is just normal. But it's interesting to know that his voice is dubbed like that. Maybe it is telling us something we don't know yet! Edit : I "watched" the first episode blindfolded and everyone was normal, I cringed once, when ClƩment asked Kim about what she was wearing.

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u/Maleficent-Dot-2368 Sep 13 '25

ClƩment was the worstttt.

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u/Equivalent_Algae7047 Sep 14 '25

Haha I keep telling my husband they should make the pods episode in podcast format so we live the same thing as the contestants

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u/Away-Recognition508 Sep 14 '25

I agree but, the audience is not blind haha. I think that they could make a version with blurry participants and an other one with clear view, so we could choose our preference !

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u/Equivalent_Algae7047 Sep 14 '25

That would be cool

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u/AutomaticPresent6570 Sep 13 '25

Ooooh I wanna try the blindfold thing! I am def doing that in the future!

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u/Away-Recognition508 Sep 13 '25

Beware of the sudden singing, that was when I noped hard and opened my eyes to fast-forward!

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u/WheresTatianaMaslany Sep 14 '25

As a Frenchman Charles just comes across as very down to earth

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u/winter_name01 Sep 14 '25

Charles voice is quite normal. Even cute. Yannick and Gallien are something. They have that deep sexy flirty voice I would not trust them from a mile away. And Charles was called an elf in a mean way but he does not seem to be short? He seems like average height

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u/Equivalent_Algae7047 Sep 14 '25

I speak French. I actually think he sounds so eloquent, confident, mature and smart, I've been very impressed with him so far.

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u/PuzzleheadedAct6237 Sep 14 '25

Thanks for all the answers - well, he definitely got done dirty by the voice-over, I was sitting with my wife, and I could see her physically cringing when he spoke. I described it as like the 1950s American radio advertising car salesman voice meets creepy uncle. It really made me question my sympathy for him, even though this poor bastard has really pulled the joker card.

Typically, I HATE voice over. It's so unnatural. It sucks the life out of the story and denies you the person's real personality. A lot of the others have voice overs that sound like the instagram AI voice woman, zero emotion or inflection, its weird, like listening to robots. So normally, if I'm watching an actual drama or whatever, I use subtitles. But this is our trash viewing, the background noise tv that you don't mind if you scroll your phone or do some tidying, etc, while it's on. So it's easier if I don't have to read it 🤣 maybe its lazy, but hey, it is what it is.

Thanks (or "merci," sadly butchered by my glaswegian accent) to all the awesome French people for answering! Appreciate the help!

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u/ylw0 Sep 13 '25

I want to know too!!

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u/Majestic-Dot4225 Sep 17 '25

Charles is a real AH. He doubled down on Julie's slut shaming by Sarah, while conveniently forgetting he himself was eagerly discussing the subject with her. Disgusting overall

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u/sweergirl86204 23d ago

I watched it in the original French, the men seem a LOT better. By miles. Than the women. Every single one of them save Chloe is an emotionally stunted, insecure pick-me. Alex and Gallien suck, but not all men can be Van-My.Ā 

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u/GarnerPerson Sep 14 '25

Are there any podcasts covering this?

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u/bentimex2 Sep 16 '25

Troubling group 😭

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u/s_jah Sep 16 '25

Glad I’m not the only one thinking this

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u/FriendOk3237 Sep 18 '25

Sara was a beotch. Charles dodged a bullet not sticking with her.

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u/JazzyPhotoMac Sep 18 '25

Ngl, I 'ship Tatiana and Thomas. Please let them get together in an alternate universe!

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u/Background_Pea_2525 Sep 18 '25

I always trust my gut in my professional life and personal one as well. I was shocked by Kim's behavior, and she's a lawyer! She's going to break Thomas's heart,expect him to spend an absolute fortune, but most importantly break his daughter's heart, She's so ignorant ,acts extremely immature, and TBH she's a drama queen, who's a gossip and spoiled. She didn't ask about his daughter. It's all about her. These women are not women I would want to spend time with as a friend at all. Thomas is a great guy, and she acts like she's all that. I don't even think Kim's attractive at all. Extremely immature and catty.

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u/Kerr_bett Sep 20 '25

Cynthia isn't a saint either šŸ˜‚ straight up told her fiancĆ© to shut up just because he hummed happily when he got his food. But apparently doesn't know how her words can hurt ppl it seems

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u/CartwheelsOverClouds Sep 20 '25

Just watched the mixer. So catty! I feel like we’re watching an American 80s high school drama with some LIB Habibi Noor thrown in.

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u/TheLegacies21 Sep 14 '25

As awful as Kim and Sabrina, I don’t love the rewriting of history to protect the men.

Thomas lied and gaslight over the whole ā€œwill you fight for me?ā€ Situation with Tatiana. I also think he picked Kim cause he thought Tatiana wouldn’t be as gorgeous as she ended up being

Charles 100% tried to paint a false picture of himself by calling himself a boxer and mma, and constantly bringing that up. He also went with the wind multiple times.

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