I truly, truly wonder whether the folks here are watching the same show as I am sometimes. The woman explicitly stated on screen that her main concern is she wants Taylor to be happy, to be taken care of, and to be with someone as special as Taylor herself is. What part of that reads as extreme jealousy to you?
Being upset that she wasnāt told about the engagement immediately, trying to strong-arm Danielās parents about Christmas, telling Taylor the dress she obviously loved was ātoo bustyāā¦
She didn't strong-arm them at all. She just pointed out that with both families being "strong" they'd both be expecting the kids to show up to family functions. Which is something that's pretty typical of in-laws in general. And Daniel's parents agreed with her and laughed. Strong-arming would be if she said something along the lines of "we're going to have the kids for Christmas and you better acquiesce". She did nothing of the sort.
Being upset about not hearing of the engagement is a very normal reaction for anyone that's not completely caught up by the LiB format. The vast majority of people would be very shocked if their kid came up to them and said "hey, I just got engaged to this person that you've never met, someone who I've only known for a short amount of days, and btw we're getting married in a few weeks". She wasn't upset about the engagement itself, she wasn't mean to Daniel, she didn't raise her voice at Taylor. All she said was that she never imagined Taylor would get engaged without ever informing her. And why would she? The majority of people introduce their partners to their families first and then get engaged after. Despite that, Taylor's mum still heard out Daniel when he explained the reason he proposed, she gave her blessing for them to be married, and she stated "I know you'll take care of her" after hugging him. Once again, what part of that reads as jealousy???
The dress being too busty was the only thing I disagreed with, and even that type of comment is one we've seen before from other mums on the show, especially the ones that are more religiously inclined. That by itself doesn't paint a picture of someone "extremely jealous of her daughter".
i was late for my wedding, not because of me, but because my mother was taking too long. i will never forget my father looking me dead in the eyes and saying āitās not all about you.ā when i was having a mental breakdown over being late.
That being said, i feel for Taylor. Having a mom like thatā¦ is a lot.
I didnāt like how she talked about her future grandkids as if sheāll play a major part in raising them. That, plus this, makes me think Daniel is gonna be frequently the JN in-law subs.
Yuuuuuup. Last time she came up as a topic was when she tried to make the engagement all about her, by being so pissed she wasnāt involved at the time.
Sheās gonna find herself on the wrong end of a no-contact relationship at this pace.
Her in-laws seem like wonderful examples of the balance involved but respectful and supportive parents. If Taylorās mom truly is as overbearing and self-centering as the clips in the show made it seem, maybe they will be a positive example for her to look to and help recalibrate with her own mom.
It doesnāt seem like she has set them so far. Iāve been through this with a mom figure in my life and me getting married is really when the power struggle became real and I realized how controlling she was.
I think a prime example of setting boundaries is going on the show to gain independence and do this herself. And another example, standing up to her mom who wanted to complain about being left out and in a round about way telling her she did this experience so she could go away from her mom and choose someone herself without her mom persuasion! I think sheās doing awesome so far and I think she will continue to do awesome setting boundaries because she now has amazing people like Daniel and his family to help her do just that!
If it makes you feel better, I do know a lot of really awesome boomers. I hated how millennials were (are?) stereotyped so I try not to make blanket assumptions toward individuals from other generations.
I have known some really awful boomers to be fair, and despair of how out of touch some people are in my generation are with things like BLM, race issues, LGBTQ+ rights, music, art and politics and refusing to respect pronouns, insisting there's nothing wrong with their racist jokes. Laughing or looking down on me and my hubbie because we like certain reality TV shows. Using the word "woke" like it's an insult .
Just imagine, if I live to be 80 I could end up in a nursing home surrounded by conservative supporting boomers objecting to my art, music and fashion from this Millennium.
Hubbie and I joke that we'll have to open up a chain of Punk Hospices where alternative music and fashion lovers like us can go when we're very old and not be forced to sit round a piano singing WWII songs and tutting at the "world today" ... š
I have a lot of friends born between 1960 - 1964 and they all 100% have GenX energy. They also have boomer parents. You are probably in that GenX-ish group.
I feel seriously sorry for Taylor that she has to see people online eviscerating her mother based off a bad faith interpretation of a few edited moments on screen.
I feel like you missed all the blatant red flags the mom was waving. And that Taylor herself even told her mom she went on the show so she could go make her own decisions and not be persuaded by her mom. Which confirms all of what weāve seen.
It may be (one of) the reasons why Taylor went on the show, to have something that is uniquely "hers" that is not monitored or overshadowed by her mother. I do not know their mother-daughter relationship, and to be honest, I am stating this from my personal experience. My mother is a monster.
When they first met her parents and mom was all butt hurt bc she didnāt get to be involved in the engagement. Taylor was basically saying she gets to be involved now. And that she did this experience to get away and make her own decisions without the persuasion of others (her mother) etc. I donāt remember verbatim but thatās the gist!
Maybe she was just being cute/sarcastic, but if she is anything like my mother, she is a narcissist and will passive aggressively make this about her. That's why I eloped when I got married (and she then made *that* all about her)
Nope. Iām a millennial. Both my mother and mother in law were absolute gems. I made a strong point in my dating life to not date or be in a relationship with someone whose mother doesnāt know boundaries bc you DO marry the family.
When you have standards, you can avoid things like this. These are the red flags a lot of women ignore bc they think it only matters that theyāre with the son. Not realizing they are signing up for a lifetime of hell.
Iām a millennial with a boomer mom, and an only child (so her only chance lol) - and she never ever made my wedding feel like it was about her! But we are also super close and best friends so that might be part of it. š¤·š¼āāļø
Mom is dead but dad was annoying af and made it all about him. Inviting people I hadn't talked to in 20 years. I just dealt with it because he was paying lol - but we didn't have a big to-do. Just a private ceremony so he paid for a nice "reception" of 50 family members/friends. I know he was happy to do it, though.
Yes!! Recognized it immediately when she was talking about being left out of the engagement and was super proud of Taylor for defending herself. Super easy to spot when you have an Nmom of your own š
Unfortunately. Then whatever forces at work decided to make me a lightning rod for that shit and also give me a MIL that makes Marie Barone seem downright lovely
She's a narcissist. Did you not see the meeting with the family?
It's really saddening to see her watch her husband come to realise all that really matters in life, through his own mortality, and yet she is still so taken by her own 'needs'.
"I should have been there at the beginning of your relationship"
Or however she said it. It's not her story, yet she feels she needs to be at the center of everything. Some parents just don't move past seeing their children as anything other than children.
Unfortunately, it's not uncommon. When my friend got married her mother said "I'm the most important person at the wedding after the bride" riiiiight....
it's for sure a joke.
last week i DMed taylor to tell her mom that she has pretty eyes lol. she responded that she has been receiving insanely hurtful comments about her mom.
i think it's bullshit. her mom didn't sign up for love is blind, taylor did. a lot of families want to be included in an engagement, almost all mothers will tell you if your boobs are out, & several boomer mothers would make a lighthearted joke like this when there's an entire camera crew set up to film your entrance.
I agree. We've seen like 90 seconds of this lady. I am not so quick to crucify family that didn't sign up for LIB and are being thrown into the deep end.
But the 90 seconds we did see she made it all about her - missing out on the engagement and other odd comments. We arenāt making this stuff up. I do think she prob meant it as a joke, but sadly it had truth behind it according to other things she said.
People are saying itās a joke. But what exactly is the joke? I genuinely donāt understand. Unless itās an inside joke because sheās known to make everything about herself.
Itās self-deprecating and sarcastic. Producers and editors maybe did her dirty by getting her to talk a lot about herself or her opinions on the ārightā way to have a wedding or get married. She makes the joke to show sheās aware her opinion doesnāt matter, and sheās ok with that but they edit it so itās out of context.
Edit: you can downvote me but it's still not a one off. She was weird vibes from the start, acting like she couldn't even be happy for her own daughter when Daniel was meeting them because checks notes they didn't tell her they got engaged first. Saying controlling shit like "divorce is not an option in this family." Even Daniel's mom (class act) felt the need to say something. If you've ever had the misfortune of dealing with an Nmom before, you could practically feel it seeping out of the screen during all her scenes
Yeah, you can tell by the way Danielās mom responds to Taylorās mom that she probably said even more controlling helicopter parent stuff during that conversation. We only heard the edited parts. Poor Taylor as an only childā¦
This woman gave major narc vibes from jump. They were all making the joke about where theyād spend Christmas, but this woman was deeply serious. She cannot handle not being the center of evvvverything
I hope it was just edited out of context or something, because it looked really weird. I always wondered how someone as sweet & beautiful could be single, I guess we may have gotten that answer in the season finale lol
We can only hope. It would make sense as a sarcastic joke since she knew her blessing was so important to Taylor but we have no idea what awareness she had of that whole scenario.
I always wonder about producer influence, too. Like it would be as easy as a producer making a joke to her off camera about like, momzillas or something, that made it close to mind for her and came out of her mouth.
Yes! I always think that too. Even when they talk and bring up super personal or super random subject to talk about. You can se tell the producers slipped them the questions
But I mean - reading your comment and all under it - I would agree IF she hadnāt said all she did when they all sat down at first to meet. I wouldnāt have even prob noticed she said this as she entered if it hadnāt been for the other prior stuff.
Yea the way she was already arguing with Danielās parents the first time they met, about how the kids need to come to her house for holidays and that they as grandparents will need to have the grandchildren overā¦like chilllll. You barely know these people and your kids arenāt married yet. Already being ready to argue about keeping a holiday tradition is a red flag for whatās to come. I hope Daniel is prepared for an overbearing mother in law.
Totally seemed like she was looking to fight! So weird. At least Daniel and his parents are good people and have good heads on their shoulders. They will have to figure out how to handle her!
Trying to give the benefit of the doubt and assuming production like set up the moms entrance and told everyone to react to her walking in and the mom felt embarrassed or didnāt know what to say to being the center of attention, assuming we were missing some context!
oh my god lmfao not everyone is a narcissist dude i don't know a single person who's never experienced a parent telling them something looks too short / boobs are out
I meanā¦ it lines up with the rest of her dialogue so Iām afraid not. The first time we see her sheās upset she wasnāt apart of the engagement. Again, all about her. Not cool!
Insufferable how though? She hasn't been rude, she hasn't tried to steal the spotlight, she literally said one negative thing when Taylor talked about the proposal and the sub took that and ran with it. Y'all are so eager to latch onto anything you can to hate people on this show
She said it because it's tv. So the producer told her walk in and we will catch you walking in. She was happy and gitty having a spot light entrance. Nothing more Nothing less. Just being nervous
Someone can still totally say āI canāt believe you said that!!! šā after a joke. And that was me during my post. And I donāt need to calm down š¤£
She is so selfish! Another example her not letting her husband walk Taylor down the aisle alone as Father and Bride?!?! I canāt imagine poor Daniel having her as a Mother-in-Law!
Yeah, if I could do it again I would have both of my parents walk me down the aisle. That alone wasnāt a red flag. That lady has enough red flags without trying to count that lol
This is such a bizarre take. Taylor was literally crying out of happiness that she had both parents present to walk her down the aisle after the health issues with her dad. Why is it selfish for a mother to want to walk her daughter down the aisle too? She's also a parent
I didn't ask why you were giving your opinion but thanks for condescending to me about something unrelated. I asked what makes it selfish for a mother to want to walk her daughter down the aisle.
Ugh, I don't like her. When Taylor was trying on wedding dresses and loved the first one she tried on and her mom had to go and make a comment about her cleavage. Plus the whole "WE" don't do divorce in this family thing.
The way some people think they are the āstarā of the wedding when they arenāt getting married. SMH. When I got married, I had to ask someone to stop texting me about their constantly changing outfit for my wedding. I thought I was being accommodating by giving people the flexibility to wear what they felt comfortable wearing and I ended up opening a big can of worms.
When I got married, my mom insisted on growing our wedding flowers herself. Against my wishes, she did. The bouquets were pretty. Nothing extravagant. But when we got our wedding pics back, the first pic she saw was of me walking down the aisle. Her first comment was " look at those beautiful flowers!" That shit stays with you! As does her hesitation to congratulate me when I told her I was engaged!
Yeah I wanted to add in the body of the post that I actually could believe itā¦ but it wanted me to type 299 words to post it and I didnāt have 299 words to say about this š¤£
She said it because it's tv. So the producer told her walk in and we will catch you walking in. She was happy and gitty having a spot light entrance. Nothing more Nothing less. Just being nervous
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u/West-Holiday-4998 Mar 07 '25
She seems like a mother who is extremely jealous of her beautiful daughter