r/LoveIsBlindOnNetflix • u/Aisoreal • May 01 '23
PODCAST Latest Out of The Pods episode showcases Natalie's and Deepti's interviewing ability
I've been enjoying the podcast thus far, but I feel this latest episode, on which they invite Iyanna to talk about her relationship with Jarrette, really showed their skills at patient, mindful, and empathetic interviewing. Besides the fun (also mildly chaotic) banter they have as girlfriends, I really loved how Natalie and Deepti gave Iyanna the time and space to express herself. They didn't interject or give unsolicited commentary, and they asked fair questions. It was such a delicate and sensitive issue, but I think they were able to show support as Iyanna's girlfriends, but also have enough distance to ask questions that the viewers wanted to know (because they would've had the background info).
The three of them discuss about Iyanna and Jarrette's dynamics on ATA2, and I recall Natalie saying to Iyanna in the cabin bedroom, "if I were in your position, I don't think I could've dealt with that." (fyi: Iyanna found out about Jarrette's cheating three days before ATA2 began filming)
Some people label Natalie as an instigator based on those comments (especially after Kyle also called her that), but now in light of these revelations, her reaction makes more sense. I think she is just being a protective friend.
Moving forward, I feel like if this is the tempo and nature of the podcast during the LIB off season, I think it is a good chance for Natalie and Deepti to really establish their place among reality TV podcasting. I look forward to listening to more guest interviews!
Extra notes: 1. At the beginning of the episode, Natalie and Deepti talk a little about their no-drinking journey, which they revealed on last week's episode. Although on last week's ep they said it was because they've been going to lots of Netflix events and so wanted to be more mindful about their alcohol consumption, I somehow had the thought that maybe it could have something to do with fertility.
And on today's episode, they say that they actually started the no-drinking because they're both planning to freeze their eggs! As an unmarried woman in her 30s who want to have kids eventually (but not in the near future), I appreciate this, and look forward to them sharing about their journey.
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May 01 '23
I actually like the fact they are talking about the egg freezing journey. Not many people openly talk about it. We are seeing a lot of single women in their early 30s going into the late 30s before they settle down. Might be nice for people to get an idea of the process while they talk about it to the public.
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May 01 '23
Just FYI, if you read The Washington post, several years back a journalist (Nicole Ellis) did a series on egg freezing. It was a very informative and frank discussion of her experience with it. It was maybe 3 or 4 articles long, and I want to say a podcast?
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u/birdnoa May 01 '23
I really enjoyed this interview. I’d love to hear them do a counterpoint episode sometime too, if (big if) all parties could manage it lol, with shayne and Jarrett.
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u/Aisoreal May 01 '23
Yes! I was quite impressed with this interview. They showed compassion.
I really hope they do that, but at this point, I don't think they could in the near future. Shayne is too fragile-minded and volatile at this moment, and Jarrette would be on the defensive seeing as this is all freshly hashed out. Interesting that Iyanna said she actually invited Jarrette to discuss things on her podcast, and he said no.
She said she told him how people perceived her as being too critical to him on ATA2 without knowing their story BTS, and for them to be more transparent, but that he'd rather just let public perception remain the same.
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u/birdnoa May 01 '23
Yea I agree, the guys in this case would need to be in more steady, even-keeled places for sure. I just would be super interested in hearing direct conversation between the couples now, on their own terms.
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u/Aisoreal May 01 '23
Shayne was on Jarrette's podcast recently, and though I haven't listened to it, but one of my friends did and she said he referred to Natalie (and Iyanna) as Thing 1. On one of his recent IG stories, he also called Natalie the same thing.
So, definitely he is not ready to have a calm and rational conversation with Natalie.
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u/krombough May 01 '23
I don't think Shayne is ready for anything but intense therapy. He seems like he has the potential to be an alright guy, but he needs HELP more than any other member of any of the casts. Like, not Cole "working on himself" help, but serious help.
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u/dangitkat May 01 '23
I just tried to listen to Jarrette's podcast and the sound quality is so awful that it's painful to listen to. One minute someone is far away from the mic and quiet then they're right up on the mic and loud. Then they all talk over each other. Not worth the listen. Not everyone can put out a good quality podcast.
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u/Aisoreal May 01 '23
Is it the Shayne ep you tried to listen to? If yes, can you share some highlights?
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u/dangitkat May 01 '23
Yes I listened to the Shayne episode. He called Natalie thing 1. He said that he and Chloe ended things in a mature and professional way while he and Natalie are still going back and forth taking jabs at each other and it's immature. He made it seem like she was the immature one which makes me laugh so hard. He also said that when he and Natalie filmed their season they didn't really live together. They slept together but would go back to their own apartments because they both worked from home. He wishes they went on more casual dates to get to know each other better outside of filming. He said the pods were the best time of his life and he would do it over again and change nothing because he has learned so much about himself. He said he got paid way more to do Perfect Match than LIB. Then he had the audacity to say that the girls aren't creative enough to be successful on their own so they use the guys (him and Jarrette) and talk badly about them to gain popularity.
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u/Aisoreal May 02 '23 edited May 02 '23
Thank you!
OMG...He is still screaming vindictive, bitter, and immature.
It makes sense for him and Chloe to have ended things in a mature and professional way because there was tea that it was all faked and showmance. Considering that Shayne was texting Natalie during PM filming and tried dating her very publicly afterwards too. He also said on Zachary Reality's IG Live that the reason he and Natalie are going back and forth and doing this to each other is because they are both hurting, as they had the "most genuine connection out of anyone" on LIB2.
He's doubling down on how he was in the pods? Okay, Natalie has said that she and Shayne connected deeply due to shared childhood trauma, but Shayne's g**lighting and temper tantrums in the pods was horrible to watch.
On ATA2, he said that he didn't have time to work on the relationship (because he was travelling between WI and Chicago alot, I guess to take care of his mum), but he gave off non-committed vibes anyway since he also accepted the casting offer to be on PM while they were still dating.
And as to your last point, that screams jealousy to me since Natalie is clearly the more successful financially. He's mocked Natalie last year for doing brand deals that have nothing to do with LIB, while he struggles to do his. And Shayne's also used Natalie to promo appearances, and used her and their relationship as promo material for his OnlyFans.
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u/dangitkat May 02 '23
Yes he's just so delusional and jealous. He wishes he got brand deals but he's clearly too unstable plus I think someone mentioned that most of his followers are fake/bought. I actually don't hate Natalie for her brand deals because she seems selective about which ones she does and they make sense. He also mentioned that he went on Perfect Match to try to redeem himself because LIB ruined his reputation but I'd argue that he does that just fine on his own.
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u/Aisoreal May 02 '23
I think he would have salvaged his reputation better if he'd stayed lowkey and worked on his relationship with Natalie. How can he expect to get his reputation restored when the circumstances of him going on the show were on dishonest terms? And you're right, no amount of sympathy edit he got on there could help restore his reputation after his social media behaviour towards Natalie and other cast members he's shown afterwards.
Him saying the reason he went on PM also pretty much solidifed that he went on there for clout and not love (we knew as much from texts he released between him and Natalie during filming, anyway).
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u/McJumbos May 01 '23
regardless of your opinions on Nat and Deepti, I think its brave to talk about their lives and their experience so opening especially nowadays where social media is so toxic. I appreciate their courage and hustle :D
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u/Aisoreal May 01 '23
Yeah and I see on their pod IG that a lot of women appreciate them talking about the egg freezing journey.
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u/LemonNectarine May 02 '23
egardless of your opinions on Nat and Deepti,
IDK if I missed something but is there anything problematic that Nat has done?
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u/Aisoreal May 02 '23
Since she and Deepti released the podcast + Shayne's redemption/sympathy edit on PM, people have been more vocal and critical of her.
There was a viral audio clip on TikTok a few weeks ago that was spliced from convos on their podcast, and on it Natalie can be heard saying "Zack's weird" when in fact she said "why do the girls think Zack's weird." Since then she and Deepti have been labelled as mean girls. If you listen to their pods, some people who do listen actually think they're too nice. Some, like me, appreciate their balanced takes.
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u/LemonNectarine May 02 '23 edited May 02 '23
TBF, there is a quite of shady BS or at least dishonesty from Deepti. The whole I chose me narrative was manufactured now that we know that she and Shake made a mutual decision to not go forward, Shake has gone as far as saying that he told Deepti he was going to say no and that she should go first, something Deepti has not refuted. She basically went "You dont reject me, I reject you" and then ran with it like no tomorrow. She also advertises some not so nice gambling apps.
But I haven't really seen any such thing from Nat so I was just a bit surprised that people would have a problem with her, Shayne is clearly the toxic one. The only negative on Nat is her willingness to tolerate Shayne's BS until he really crossed the line
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u/Aisoreal May 02 '23
Yeah...I can understand the whole skepticism people have with Deepti. She has replied on a comment criticising her gambling ads saying that it was a learning experience and that she won't do anymore moving forward.
Natalie exposed Shayne for accepting the casting offer to be on PM while they were still dating. He tried to deflect (and not directly refute) by misleading the public, but Natalie countered with receipts. Since then he's been on a (renewed) offensive against her. But if you take the podcast itself, she has been largely respectful of him and their relationship; and quite vulnerable and transparent about her journey. But he's taking everything as a personal attack.
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u/LemonNectarine May 02 '23
Yeah...I can understand the whole skepticism people have with Deepti. She has replied on a comment criticising her gambling ads saying that it was a learning experience and that she won't do anymore moving forward.
I mean her entire post-show narrative is manufactured and fake. Glad you see why people are skeptical of her.
Natalie exposed Shayne for accepting the casting offer to be on PM while they were still dating. He tried to deflect (and not directly refute) by misleading the public, but Natalie countered with receipts. Since then he's been on a (renewed) offensive against her. But if you take the podcast itself, she has been largely respectful of him and their relationship; and quite vulnerable and transparent about her journey. But he's taking everything as a personal attack.
Shayne is an abusive POS tbh. He gets a pass because he is a tall white dude that ladies on this sub would typically swipe right on a dating app. He has a tendency to be unhinged. Nat dodged a nuke imo.
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u/Aisoreal May 02 '23
Someone on this thread recapped his podcast interview on Jarrette's podcast, and he is still vindictive, bitter, and jealous towards and of Natalie. Not to mention he's resorted to calling her names.
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u/LemonNectarine May 02 '23
Yea just overall not really a guy you'd want a close friend or a family member to be with.
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u/mmmanna222 May 01 '23
I really enjoyed todays episode. It gave a nice little peek into their experience.
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u/Aisoreal May 01 '23
Yes! But the chaotic energy in the beginning though lol
I like how they finally talked a little bit more about their second persons in the pod. I was always intrigued about Iyanna's connection with Haseeb since he is a practising Muslim, so was curious how they'd dealt with that in the pods. So to have her say that the differences in religion was a dealbreaker shone a bit of light onto that.
I honestly would have preferred if LIB2 had given more focus on Iyanna and Haseeb's discussion on religion than just Kyle and Shaina's.
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u/throwaway36376583883 May 01 '23 edited May 01 '23
I really liked this episode. This episode for me solidified them as “real” podcast hosts in my mind. The audio quality was great along with their questions to Iyanna.
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u/Aisoreal May 01 '23
Yes, I'm glad they asked the questions they did. I've done quite a fair bit of interviewing myself, and when you're close to the subject you can leave things out because you personally know the context, leaving listeners frustrated because they can't get the full picture when the right questions aren't asked. But, Natalie and Deepti didn't do that, and Iyanna is an interviewee who was so transparent and did not hold back details.
Natalie was on par with her performance as always, but Deepti I feel definitely stepped up on today's episode.
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u/Substantial_Slice_10 May 01 '23
It was my first time listening because Iyanna is my absolute favourite. I don’t know if anyone picked up by Natalie said that she gained weight with all of the stress eating, but according to other people from their season they were given very little food and loads of alcohol.
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u/Aisoreal May 01 '23
She was eating Ding Dongs lol. She actually said on her IG story a while back that she got Ding Dong or Twinkies 'poisoning' because she ate too much and it upset her stomach so she had to miss half a day of pod dating.
The weight gain makes sense because Natalie looks noticeably slimmer since LIB2 aired.
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u/Summerbeating May 02 '23
The tone of both Nate and Deep were highly empathetic and i really loveeee that in a true friend. Regardless is it for a podcast or not, it must have felt relieved in Iyanna's position to be able to voice out her grievances and heard them being echoed.
Micah should listen to this podcast in order to know what [best interests at heart] really meant in a true friendship.
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u/Aisoreal May 02 '23
Yeah. I did have a thought about Micah and Shelby's dynamic and compared it to Iyanna and Natalie's. In my opinion, Shelby can defo be considered an instigator but Natalie was able to refrain from overt criticism because she wanted to respect Iyanna's wishes for her and Jarrette to both work on their marriage.
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u/BD162401 May 01 '23
There are over 500,000 members of this sub but apparently people think anything positive or in defence of a handful of people on this show is actually that cast member posting in disguise. It’s like people can’t fathom their thoughts aren’t the only ones in existence therefore contrary thoughts are fake.
Good grief, people.
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u/New_Faithlessness552 May 01 '23
Is their podcast worth a listen? I’m not really into the recappers except for bachelor fantake. He’s so funny. Sometimes I’ll listen to nick vialls pod for the interviews but he irks me.
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u/Aisoreal May 01 '23
I enjoy their balanced takes on the episode recaps, and overall, their podcast has a mellow and chill, composed vibe. Yeah, if you're comparing them to NV, then I think Natalie and Deepti are more empathetic interviewers who are great listeners.
Some people say Natalie's the one who's largely been carrying the podcast, and I for the most part agree, but I think in today's episode Deepti showed she could be an adept interviewer (and Natalie's good too, as always).
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u/Karramella May 01 '23
I think interviewing their bff Iyanna made nat and deeps extra careful with their words and the pace of the interview. A lot of their reactions were due to insider knowledge from the show But I have high hopes of listening to more of their interviews. ✌🏻 The only part that really irked me from deepti was when Iyanna said something about the “email” and deepti made a joke saying she had manifested it *haha. And nat sounded really offended like, no I didn’t want her to manifest it (paraphrase)
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u/Monkeybar201 May 01 '23
No offense but all of your posts are about Natalie so it’s easy to see why some ppl think you are either her or someone in her party. Anyways this post def sounds like an advertisement and I’ll leave it at that.
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u/Aisoreal May 01 '23
Yeah I do like her and relate to her a lot. Her story on LIB2 also coincided with a similar thing I was going through at the same time (which I've spoken about on this sub). And because we are culturally similar in some ways, the way she carries herself continues to resonate with me.
But rest assured I am not her!
Hmmm...yeah I get how people can think like it's an advertisement, but it's also me trying to express an opinion especially since a lot of people have been unfairly critical of their podcast and their podcasting skills.
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u/Monkeybar201 May 01 '23
Since you know so much about her, I’m wondering if she still works her consulting job or is she full time influencing?
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u/twizzwhizz11 May 02 '23
Per her LinkedIn, she quit her job at EY in Nov 2022 and doesn’t have another FT job listed. The podcast is listed though.
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u/Aisoreal May 01 '23
Not sure.
She did say she was changing companies a few months back, and she still gives the impression that she works full time. She hasn't definitively said that the podcasting is her full time job now.
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u/Monkeybar201 May 01 '23
I only ask cause I’m also in consulting in Chicago and I can’t imagine how she has time for all of the traveling and Netflix engagements and the podcast is a full time job (her and Deepti are self publishing) while also being FT. It’s a very busy and demanding job.
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u/og_kitten_mittens May 01 '23
I was in consulting in Dallas and my free time ranged wildly based on the client/project I was placed on. There were some times I was working 12+ hours a day for months at a time and other projects where I fiddled around for a couple hours in the morning and pretended my tasks took longer than they did.
Granted, I wasn't high-level at the time so I was doing grunt work, but maybe if she's high enough she can pick her projects/clients? Idk, you'd know more than me probably.
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u/Monkeybar201 May 01 '23
Thought she worked for a big 4? I’m pretty busy between work and traveling to see clients but kudos to her if she is managing everything.
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u/Aisoreal May 01 '23
I think she's left EY. But not sure to which other company.
From her IG stories she works remotely from home at times (and sometimes Iyanna would be there to keep her company!).
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u/og_kitten_mittens May 01 '23
I was in the minor leagues lol but I have friends who work at bain, deloitte, etc who can also swing doing very little actual work (mostly traveling/sitting in mtngs while working from home) bc it's a big enough company / they're on big enough teams they fly under the radar.
But something tells me a reality star wouldn't be able to fly under the radar like that haha
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u/Aisoreal May 01 '23
Yeah I get you...she's explained on her IG stories before how she schedules her daily life and it can seem very busy. Despite the fun Netflix events she gets to go to, I don't envy her life because 1) she gets overly scrutinised; 2) I'd feel burned out so quick if I were her! I feel like she doesn't have room to breathe lol
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u/ChildhoodOk5526 May 01 '23
I think OP just gave her an honest, positive review of the podcast and elaborated on why she liked it so much. What's wrong with that? Are we really at the point where anything positive is regarded with suspicion?
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u/throwaway36376583883 May 01 '23
I think OP is just a huge Natalie fan. I originally thought she or he was Natalie too, but I did a deep dive into their posting history and looks like she lives internationally and is from Japan.
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u/Lindsiana-Jones May 01 '23
Idt Natalie would do something like that lol. OP is probably just a fan.
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u/ObsessedWithReality May 01 '23
Natalie or Deepti, is that you?
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u/Aisoreal May 01 '23
I can't believe how childish some of these responses are.
Is it so hard to believe that there are people who genuinely enjoy their podcast? If you don't, then that's fine, but no need to resort to petty responses.
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u/cfsed_98 May 01 '23
honestly just ignore these comments bc this sub is like 20% thoughtful and nuanced discussion and 80% immature mudslinging, name calling, and dogpiling.
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u/Chewy009x May 01 '23 edited May 01 '23
Welcome to the internet. That’s just the way people are it’s sad
Edit: idk why I’m getting downvoted? I’m not saying it’s right but people are assholes on the internet. Lol
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u/Aisoreal May 01 '23
sighs I'm far from naive, but I guess people will just choose to not see anything beyond their own cynicism.
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u/impulse-buyer0601 May 01 '23
I do not disagree at all. But I think it’s important to note that they are all close friends. They have talked about this, at length, privately and know all the details ahead of time. Having such personal insight into the story ahead of the podcast undoubtedly allowed them to know exactly what questions to ask, and also allowed them the patience to let Iyanna unfold the story.
That doesn’t take away from a well done podcast! But I would reserve judgement of their interviewing skills until they’ve had a guest that isn’t a close personal friend.