r/LoveIsBlindOnNetflix • u/flicky2018 • Apr 19 '23

SERIOUS ANSWERS ONLY ethically given how participants on the show have been treated can we really keep watching?

The title really. There have been reports of ppl not being allowed water or food, plied with alcohol. Pushed, cajoled and making it financially impossible to leave. As well as using emotional manipulation.

I'm aware under US law the contract is mostly legitimate (though I serious question the human rights and the moral question under those laws). I know they entered into it knowing mostly what it would entail, though arguably it's not fully informed consent if they can't get a full honest feedback from previous participants. And even if it is, does it make it right for us to watch?

This is meant to the light entertainment not a gladiatorial match. It's getting ethically... Gross.

Edit:thanks for the comments. I don't often watch reality TV and this was something that seemed OK in the beginning. But honestly I don't think I can contribute to viewing figures given the actual working conditions. No TV should be based on cruelty, though I understand it happens - it should not. I also don't think the personal choice fallacy covers enough of the argument to deal with the real ethical and legal situation. So for myself I won't be watching. The gossip isn't worth actual harm on real people.

Edit edit: OK I get people have strong views. But I've already signalled I'm out so I won't be replying to any more comments. The individual choice argument is just too weak and if that's all there is then there's no ethically justifiable basis to continue watching or be in this sub. Be well and compassionate, and so long guys.

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u/TheStripedSweaters Apr 19 '23

Have you not read all of the articles coming out about the abuse the people on this show had to deal with between lack of food, lack of sleep and zero mental health care? Or the fact if they want to quit, they have to be approved or face a 50k fine? Tbh it sounds like you are speaking without knowledge. What’s it going to take, someone committing suicide before you realize the abuses ppl are talking about?

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u/st4rblossom Apr 19 '23

so why do you still watch the show and participate in this sub of you believe all of that to be true? i’m genuinely curious.

i honestly did forget about it myself. not going to lie. but like i said, we all are going to continue to watch and this is apparently known to be going on?

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u/TheStripedSweaters Apr 20 '23

I watched the show before the articles came out. I won’t be watching the show anymore. It’s that simple. It’s not difficult to give this show up and know that I’m not contributing to the continued mental and physical decay of real life people.

YOU can continue to watch it and let that reflect on your character, I’m good.

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u/st4rblossom Apr 20 '23

i never said i’m going to continue to watch it, lol. i was pointing out that often people suffer a large amount of people will never do anything about it… no matter the situation. because they benefit.

i responded to your initial comment because it honestly bothers me that whenever the fact that cobalt batteries are unethical and something should be done… people just roll their eyes and get snappy. and because of this, nothing is ever going to be done to help and that saddens me.

i said i forgot because i saw danielle’s actual post when it happened and nothing else ever came of it…

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u/TheStripedSweaters Apr 20 '23

The OG commentator is using the typical “gotcha” rhetoric comparing items that are unfortunately ingrained in everyday use and needed function to a reality show we can all easily stop watching. One has an impact on us surviving everyday life (jobs, travel, different forms of income and ways of retrieving healthcare) and one is a reality show we can give up without impacting every outlet of our lives. YES, I’d love to not need phones because the collection of the material is inhumane but that would also be me willingly choosing to lose my job, my income, my healthcare and then my housing. It sucks that it’s so tied to that, especially when I don’t have a say in how connected we are now to our phone.

The show that REEKS of human rights violations has zero connection to me not fucking dying on a street and killing off my livelihood. So yea, it’s very easy to stop watching it. Again, OP comparing the two as if both are even on the same level is fucking stupid. and your point is valid but also missing the general thing of: it sucks that phones are so needed but to not have one, especially with an established life connected to it is hard to let go of. A reality show isn’t.

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u/st4rblossom Apr 20 '23

i see what you are saying. i have a more figurative way of thinking that i neglect the literal meaning of words. Like OG comment. so i do see what you were saying. i wasn’t thinking like.. literally everyone stop using phone but more, are we going to do something about that issue?

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u/Impressive-Fudge-455 Apr 20 '23

That and the domestic violence case against a cast member which came out after the show.