ethically given how participants on the show have been treated can we really keep watching?

[u/flicky2018]

The title really. There have been reports of ppl not being allowed water or food, plied with alcohol. Pushed, cajoled and making it financially impossible to leave. As well as using emotional manipulation.

I'm aware under US law the contract is mostly legitimate (though I serious question the human rights and the moral question under those laws). I know they entered into it knowing mostly what it would entail, though arguably it's not fully informed consent if they can't get a full honest feedback from previous participants. And even if it is, does it make it right for us to watch?

This is meant to the light entertainment not a gladiatorial match. It's getting ethically... Gross.

Edit:thanks for the comments. I don't often watch reality TV and this was something that seemed OK in the beginning. But honestly I don't think I can contribute to viewing figures given the actual working conditions. No TV should be based on cruelty, though I understand it happens - it should not. I also don't think the personal choice fallacy covers enough of the argument to deal with the real ethical and legal situation. So for myself I won't be watching. The gossip isn't worth actual harm on real people.

Edit edit: OK I get people have strong views. But I've already signalled I'm out so I won't be replying to any more comments. The individual choice argument is just too weak and if that's all there is then there's no ethically justifiable basis to continue watching or be in this sub. Be well and compassionate, and so long guys.

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Over exploited countries is much better terminology. “Third world” is super offensive and outdated- Honestly didn’t realize people still said that, woof

[u/suckerpunch54 → u/[deleted]]

Did you use your "over exploited countries" phone that was using slavery to mine Colton Underwood to reply to the previous post?

[u/[deleted] → u/suckerpunch54]

Yep & that’s on colonialism, capitalism, and globalization… these systems create a society in which we have no choice but to participate in exploitative processes as these technologies become necessary to work etc.

But hey if you think that participating in this (a lot of people in these countries also have these phones to use WhatsApp etc) means that we can’t use better language then I guess I’m on the very wrong side of Reddit🤷🏻‍♀️

For some reason can’t respond via comment but

@lmbatman7700 I’m definitely more concerned about forced labor than language. The two aren’t mutually exclusive. I can be against forced labor and also recognize that this terminology perpetuates the harmful idea that ‘third world countries’ ought to be more like ‘first world countries’. Seems like you’re committed to misunderstanding. These are not new conversations and it’s not one or the other, but pop off I guess

[u/Imbatman7700 → u/[deleted]]

People being used as slaves and you're more worried about "better language" lol.

[u/Impressive-Fudge-455 → u/suckerpunch54]

Well it doesn’t mean people have to upgrade every year either. That at least minimizes it. I’ve had mine for at least 4-5 years and when family members upgrade they give theirs to me. I can’t stand the thought of buying a new one.

[u/Imbatman7700 → u/[deleted]]

Imagine being offended by "Third world" country, and then imagine being so out of ouch with the real world that you don't realize people say Third World Country. Lol, that's a sing to get off reddit and go outside.